190°

This RTX 4060 gaming PC just got a discount that makes it cheaper than an RTX 4080

Don't waste thousands of dollars on a graphics card. Grab this MSI RTX 4060 gaming PC deal instead so you can get a pre-built PC immediately.

purple101111d ago

il save you a click,.its $999

ps5pro for the win at $499 me thinks

Sgt_Slaughter111d ago

PS5 Pro doesn't exist yet, and what games are even coming out to warrant closing yourself off to PlayStation-only? Might as well spend the extra money and have a much more expansive ecosystem and a large back-log (along with a handful of PS exclusives that are on PC anyway).

purple101111d ago (Edited 111d ago )

Just GTA6, that one game alone, is enough

But il also enjoy ghost of tushima 2 with higher settings than base ps5

I agree with your points also though

anast111d ago

That expansive eco-system is rent only, unless you want to play old games on GoG.

JackBNimble111d ago

We don't even know when Gta6 is coming out, and are you really saying that the claim of better ray tracing and hopefully another 30 fps is worth justifying a pro?
You might as well build a PC, that way you can have full control of when and how you're going to upgrade.

Einhander1972111d ago (Edited 111d ago )

JackBNimble Sgt_Slaughter

The PS5 Pro may be half the price of this PC and more than twice the TF of a 15TF 4060.

Not to mention people have their whole game collection on PS5 including a fantastic subscription. And just like playing PS4 games is better on PS5 because they have more stable framerates and higher resolution. Virtually every single game this generation has used dynamic resolution scaling, those games will already benefit from PS5 Pro, PS5 Pro already has hundreds of games that will benefit. And future games will just have the "fidelity mode" unlocked for PS5 Pro. PS5 Pro will be extremely easy to develop for.

And GTA 6 is not going to be 30 FPS on the Pro, that is a lie, ir will 100% have graphics modes... it's not a Microsoft game....

The PS5 Pro is going to be the best deal in gaming #dealwithit.

Skuletor110d ago

@Einhander

Wouldn't the best deal be an Xbox Series S and Gamepass?

+ Show (2) more repliesLast reply 110d ago
111d ago Replies(1)
VincentVanBro111d ago

MSI uses off the shelf parts so they’re pretty alright. It’s a decent deal I guess.

mkis007110d ago

Just in case anyone cares. Costco currently has a 1600 pc build with a 4070 super and i7 14700f...ive priced it out and its actually cheaper to buy this than build it yourself by at least 200$

ocelot07110d ago

Anyone in the UK looking for something for 1080p/1440p and wants something with a upgrade path for the next few years.

Awd-it have this for £789.
Ryzen 7500f 6 core CPU
16gb ddr5
Rtx 4060

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/aw...

If you know how to build. You can build a very similar pc for same money. Maybe an little cheaper.

60°

New Ryzen 9 9900X price leak spotted on Amazon Netherlands for $549

Yet another Ryzen 9000-series price leak surfaces, with the latest coming from Amazon NL - where the 9900X has been seen for $549.

80°

The 'Kawaii' Is A Nintendo Wii The Size Of A Keychain

Modders have cooked up something pretty special – a Wii console which is small enough to fit on your keys. A wee Wii.

Read Full Story >>
timeextension.com
270°

PlayStation 5 PS3 Native Emulation Could Be Held Back by Important Technical Limitations

Due to the Cell processor that powered the system, PlayStation 3 emulation on the PlayStation 5 could be held back by important technical limitations

Read Full Story >>
wccftech.com
TheNamelessOne22d ago

All that processor ever really served was to make game development harder for most people. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

Markdn20d ago

Your right, well up. Till the point they realised how to program it and then it became a monster, they way it off loads tasks to spus and they way it manages this is astounding, I wish they had just upgraded it for ps4 gave it more ram to its disposal as it would truely have been a monster, instead we got an under powered AMD chip and some of the guys here we very disappointed indeed. For a cost point of view it made PS4 more affordable but from a development point of view, we already had the development tools and software

yeahokwhatever20d ago

all that processor did was wipe the floor with its competition. like, badly.

TheNamelessOne20d ago

I remember most 3rd party titles being the runt of the litter when it came to ports that generation.

yeahokwhatever20d ago

EA made a few bad ports in the opening months of the release. compare 1st party titles. go ahead. do it. oh you cant. not even the same league.

Number1TailzFan21d ago

Ignore because they're good at tech/frame rate analysis? K..

1nsomniac20d ago

Ignore because they’re arguably widely recognised as one of, if not the best source in the industry… great logic. Well done.

fsfsxii20d ago

They offer surface level analysis, its like that Tv overlay that displays the framerate, they absolutely have 0 clue with anything development related, or anything behind the scenes, and more often than not, they’re a propaganda machine.

1nsomniac20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The irony being they clearly do know and they continuously prove that they know.. Relentlessly. If these comments aren’t sarcasm then they’re a sure fire way to make yourself look a bit stupid.

Aggesan20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I think they're among the best in the business when it comes to frame by frame analysis, but they often speak on topics where they're not more informed than any other interested and passionate amateur. Quite often it's painful watching their show when they state things like facts when they're in fact wrong, and knowing that most of their viewers will assume they're 100% correct about everything they say. I still enjoy them though, especially the retro stuff.

RaidenBlack20d ago

lol, one slightly -ve take from DF and bam! ~ " Ignore "

Huey_My_D_Long20d ago

For those who say DF doesn't know what they are doing...Gotta give us a hard example not a generalized statement.

TheEroica20d ago

Sony beggers raging at DF because Sony can't feed them enough remakes and old generation content to keep them happy. Yikes!

VariantAEC20d ago

DF... the same people convinced PS5 and Xbox Series consoles couldn't do raytracing? The same people who didn't consider PS4 Pro was running AC7 better than Xbox One X due to PS4 Pro's CPU rapid packed math feature while I was telling them to look into it? The same people that are still confused about the PS5's capabilities against XSX's despite all the information being handed to them on a silver platter by Mark Cerny which some smarter gamers with some programming experience have been telling them since the road to PS5 talk was done? Those people?

Yeah, I think I'll continue to pass on any superficial opinion-based observations they make about game developement, too.

+ Show (2) more repliesLast reply 20d ago
neomahi21d ago

Here they are using NATIVE again like they know what it means, they don't.

meganick20d ago

I’d like to see someone explain why you’re getting downvotes. You’re correct. If software is running on native (original) hardware, then it’s not being emulated. If it is being emulated, then it’s not running on native hardware. “Native emulation” seems to be a bit of an oxymoron.

VariantAEC19d ago

DF doesn't know what "native support" means... it doesn't seem like you know either. Native support can mean emulation, but meaning the original hardware is not required, but it also means no downloads. "Native support" means that nothing additional is required to run the software as intended. You can certainly call a software emulation layer on PS3 for PS1 games native support because it ran software from the disc needing absolutely nothing else to work properly. The PS1 hardware was not on PS3, but the games were still natively supported.

Xbox backward compatibility support is not native, no games run from discs without downloading a repackaged app to run. That is not native support and we all agree DF is blatently lying by suggesting it is.

All consoles run repackaged legacy games this gen, which is exactly why the PS3 is still the gold standard for backward compatibility on consoles to this very day. You would simply pop in any PS1/2 disc and they'd just run without needing anything else from anywhere. Apparently, the newer PS3's (no Emotion Engine) still ran the majority of PS2 games.

meganick19d ago

@VariantAEC

First off, you’re using a different term than me. I was talking about the use of the term “native emulation.” But you’re using the term “native support.” Maybe that’s the same thing. I’m not sure.
So from what I gather, “native emulation” means emulation that doesn’t require a download. In computer terminology, I’ve always thought of “native” as implying original hardware, or at least original components.

Eonjay21d ago

Would really love to play some Infamous and Resistance.

InUrFoxHole20d ago

I never understood the love for resistance... I found it the be mid at best. Infamous 2 was good. Would be great to play killzone again

TheNamelessOne20d ago

Outside of the third game, the series was definitely average.

anast20d ago

The concept was cool. I would day 1 a current gen version of the title.

babadivad21d ago

It's only a matter of time before Xbox has PS3 emulation before Playstation because of them dragging their feet.

Bathyj20d ago

Be nice if they did. Be nice to have a reason to get an Xbox again after all this time .

RaidenBlack20d ago

OP's sarcasm comes from Xbox's superior emulation department ... likely the only efficient department at Xbox

Vits20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I mean... it's really not that far-fetched. Emulation on the Xbox consoles is miles ahead of the PlayStation consoles. The Switch gets close if you jailbreak it, but it lacks power and the cool part about emulation on Xbox is that you just need a $20 dev account to use those features.

And if anything, the Xbox just doesn't have a PS3, Wii U, and Switch emulator yet because it lacks native support for Vulkan/OpenGL 4.3. The moment someone makes a new wrapper or it gets that compatibility, it will be a matter of weeks for those consoles to be playable on it as well.

babadivad20d ago

rpcs3 already perfectly emulates tons of PS3 games on PC. The Xbox already emulates the PS2 far better than Sony. As for the PS3 emulator, the only thing needed is for someone to create a uwp version of RPCS3 and you'll be good to go. There's already a 360 uwp emulator. I suspect RPCS3 will be ported over before the year is out.

Show all comments (54)