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2008: The Year of the Xbox 360... and Why 2009 Will Be Too

From the article: "But Microsoft is no slouch either when it comes to applying the pressure to Sony. On top of an already solid 2009 third party lineup, Microsoft themselves will put out not one, but two games set in the Halo universe. And they've mostly licked the Red Ring of Death hardware problems that plagued the early years of the Xbox 360. And with optional hard drive installations of games thanks to the NXE and the new and improved "Jasper" hardware revision appearing on store shelves anyday now, the Xbox 360 hardware is in the best shape its ever been and 2009 will undoubtedly be the "Year of the Xbox 360"... just like 2008 was."

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The Judderman6010d ago

Phew... someone loves the 360.
Yeah its doing well which is good. This year i want Mass Effect2, Forza3, Halo ODST, and Alan Wake. Give me these Microsoft and i will be happy.
I don't know whether 09 will be year of the 360 but the games above will make my gaming year and thats enough.

Dread6010d ago (Edited 6010d ago )

well i definitely love my 360, but i am not prepared to count Sony out. their exclusives are stellar.

However, that was the same thing as before, mg4, lbp, resistance, motorstorm, valkyrie, etc..non of them really dented the 360 one year advantage lead.. so is killzone 2 going to be any different..

i think it will make a similar impact as mg4, but i am not sure it will turn the tide. Perhaps if kz2 came with a significant system price cut hmmm

in any case, i see 2009 going the same way as 2008. namely 360 and playstation neck to neck and the wii on top.

lets see

IzKyD13316010d ago

Confirmed: you need a life
what is this? your 7th account?

wil4hire6010d ago (Edited 6010d ago )

According to sales, wasn't it the year of the Wii again?

Because the 360 had absolutely no game lineup in 2008. It ended with Gears and fable that sold well, but Lips/Your'reInTheMovies/Banjo all sold less than 100k.

So is "year Of" mean that a console that sold 2 games at the end of 365 days is the winner by one period? Because MGS4/GT5p have outsold Gears & Fable. Yeah, they came out earlier, but... time is never relevant to fanboys.

I mean the one thing I understand, is its definitely not about Game Quality and # of good games. That clearly isn't the definition of "year of", or were people betting on a more expensive PS3 outselling the least expensive consoles? lol. So sad. All these one-sided "YAY US" articles are getting a bit ridiculous. Wake me up when the PS3 is no longer at a premium price, and competitively priced.

2008 Was the year of the PS3 due to the following:

1. 2007, we all said 2008 would provide better games.
2. 2008 had better games than the 360.
3. PS3 had less hardware failure than the 360 in 2008.
4. PS3 firmware Updates
5. Home

The 360 had no gaming accolades in 2008 except buying PS related games, and even still to this day. Everyone is pretending that they are going to find out about the super secret 360 lineup at E3 mid year. You aren't, its going to be another purchased/borrowed game, Mass Effect2/ALanWake, and probably another Halo game. There was no big secret at E3 except for FF13 folks. And thats not even due till 2010.

To this day, the 360 doesn't even have any gaming news on N4G outside of flamebait articles. What are you looking forward to outside of games that are on the wall, but no media/details/preview/intervie ws/anything? And on top of that, what exclusives are you looking forward to that have any media/details/preview/intervie ws/anything? Ninja Blade? And people DARE to try to compare the 2008 ps3 and 2009 lineup? Please. The PS3 had a better 2008 lineup, its 2009 lineup is already superior. 360 fans will just have to wait to see whats due, like 2008. And when LBP-Killer-Banjo comes out, less than 150k people buy it. Say what you will about sales, but hey.. LBP cracked 1 million. not to say that sales are more important than gamep0lay, because LBP also scored higher than any other exclusive on the PS3/360.

ChampIDC6010d ago (Edited 6010d ago )

Looks like it's going to be the year of both consoles if the promising looking titles put out.

No need to fight when we're all getting good games.

Ricegum6010d ago

2009 - The year of KILLLLLZONEEE :):)

urban bohemian6010d ago

Price is really going to be an issue in 2009 not just exclusive games!

I think Sony will definitely cut prices and we will see both companies pulling out everything they can to push more sales!

Should be interesting!

PoSTedUP6010d ago (Edited 6010d ago )

who cares man i am playing my games. yall r still on here instead of playing you games. is arguing over games better than playing them? ive recently learned that N4G is a waste of time.... IMO.

and imo it was the year of the ps3- video store, in game chat, playstation lyfestyle, DS3, PSbluetooth, 7.1 surround sound (only ps3 games support it), all the awesome games, Qore, flash9, DIVX movie stream. etc.

*continues to play socom*

mint royale6010d ago

so people above trying to justify why their console was their best is just wasting their time as it is all subjective. Just enjoy your games it not like any console is lacking them.

wil4hire6010d ago (Edited 6010d ago )

Better, is always subjective. But MS placed rules on "BETTER" when they decided to use Metacritic to describe how amazingly well scoring their game lineups is, compared to Sony. Now, Sony's games are all better by that definition, so whats the rush to play the teacher of a special kids classroom and call everyone a winner?

I'm sorry but there is definitely some credit due on Sony's behalf for 2008. It was a year with constant good games, and firmware updates, plus home beta, and eventually open beta. KZ2 beta. I mean, Gamers that had a PS3 were in heaven the entire year. Thats why everyone said 2008 was going to be Sony's year, and it delivered. Because 2008 was the lineup that 2007 should have had.

This always happens whenever its pointed out that MS is bsing. Just like the graphics issue with Killzone2. - going off topic - That game has been bashed to death for sony lying about 4D, and that the graphics will never reach that level by everyone. Now that its clear that KZ2 is second to none, graphics dont matter anymore. Just COD4style Gameplay. Instead of the media collectively giving Sony a bone, they just complain because you cant use circle to crouch. Its ridiculous. COD4/Gears2/Halo3/RE5/FALLOUT/ GTA4 all praised for how amazing the graphics are. Then KZ2 comes along now we get "Do graphics really matter?" or "Yeah it looks good, so what?" Articles. Instead of the same level of acknowledgement given.

I'm not making anything up. 2008 Sony had a clear advantage for its lineup, just as Microsoft had a amazing 2007 lineup. Everyone can always agree that MS did a good job with something, but now you have a case to where numerically, you can prove Sony had a "better" year, and MS is still getting credit for having it. Which is fine, Sony needs to speak up. But as gamers, im not going to pretend I dont see the clear difference here.

This is something the biased gaming media can never do:

"2008, Sony had better games. The 360 had the sales lead."

If sales are all gamers care about, some of you 360zealots need to start buying Wii's.

Tempist6010d ago

Don't argue this editorial. It's coming from an 'old codger' of video games. He's far biased towards the 360 and just likes to make hay. His opinions on the PS3 are moot and his backing of the 360 is also as moot since for someone carrying the 360 water he's not a very intimate 360 player. His record speaks for itself.

mint royale6010d ago

I think your being too fussy over what you read, I have seen nothing but praise for killzone's graphics and deservedly so. Sure there will be some bad articles but after seeing 2007 articles with every other one going on about RROD i don't understand this sony conspirasy viewpoint.

Theres no denying sony had a good 2008 but MS and nintendo ahd enough good games in the year. My personal goty was super mario galaxy, followed by MK Wii, Gta 4 , Gears of war 2 and LBP. The best of all worlds is the way to go and I don't care if anyone argues otherwise.

littletad6010d ago

Let's be honest, if were talking sales, the 360 and the Wii literally obliterate the ps3's game sales. That attachment rate, the fact that Wii Fit is still selling, and the DS still toppling the psp. It certainly wasn't the year of the ps3 or Sony in that regard. And although I strongly disagree on who had the "most" exclusives as someone always manages to make up their own lists, I do believe the ps3 had the most wanted and best two exclusives; Littlebigplanet and Metal Gear Solid 4. But sadly enough, Gears 2 will likely sell more copies than those two combined, or already has. On the bright side if Killzone 2 does as well as expected and Square Enix can release FF13 I'm quite sure Sony has a better chance of claiming the "year of" title. And yes I know it's coming to the 360 FF13, but I no doubt believe it will look, play, and sell better on the ps3. Let's be reasonable, 2009 is going to be the year that exclusives matter. Because every famous franchise is now multiplatform.

thebudgetgamer6010d ago

multi-plats and two halo games is the reason why they will win 09?
lol

:)

MNicholas6010d ago (Edited 6010d ago )

2008 Sales (Est)

Wii: 25M
360: 11M (27M lifetime)
PS3: 10M (19M lifetime)

The Wii sold as many units in 2008 as the 360 sold in more than 3 years!

Average annual sales:

1. Wii (22M)
2. PS3 (9.3M)
3. 360 (8.8M)

mint royale6010d ago

wii sales make both console sales look ridiculous.

Wii has sold nearly as much this year as the 360 has in its lifetime.

And despite being released at the sametime the wii has trashed sony's dominance and has taken a 25-30 million lead over it in just over 2 years. Wii sales at the end of 2007 are still greater than ps3 sales were at the end of 2008.

The wii is amazing, but fanboys leave it out because thinking about makes all their arguments irrelevent. If you want to talk about sales the 360 and ps3 both lost hard.

thebudgetgamer6010d ago

the xbox fanboys best back up plan since 2007

:)

littletad6010d ago (Edited 6010d ago )

"The wii is amazing, but fanboys leave it out because thinking about makes all their arguments irrelevent."

No that's not it. It's the fact that Nintendo is trying to change the industry in a way that makes games no longer a fanatic hobby for the otaku and hardcore gaming crowd but rather an "approachable medium" so that our Grand parents and extended family can pick up a controller. This sounds fine for a family, but it's a complete kick in the face to the fanatic core gamer who have supported Nintendo all these years. So it isn't that our arguments are "irrelevant" but that were merely showing our backs to Nintendo the same way they have.

I do agree with you that Nintendo is winning, pretty much at everything. Hell most of us have grown up with Nintendo and I wouldn't trade mine for anything. But if Nintendo had realized beforehand the massive change they are seeing now, Metroid, Zelda, and Mario would not have been released as they were this generation. Their next incarnations will be a step back, I guarantee it, in an attempt to be more "appealing" to the casual. They have alienated their faithful, so why on earth would you say our "arguments" are irrelevant? They deserve obscurity and neglect, and I'm quite sure they could care any less.

mint royale6010d ago

'No that's not it. It's the fact that Nintendo is trying to change the industry in a way that makes games no longer a fanatic hobby for the otaku and hardcore gaming crowd but rather an "approachable medium" so that our Grand parents and extended family can pick up a controller. This sounds fine for a family, but it's a complete kick in the face to the fanatic core gamer who have supported Nintendo all these years. So it isn't that our arguments are "irrelevant" but that were merely showing our backs to Nintendo the same way they have.'

-First of all too many people over react about the consequences of nintendo changing the industry. Have you seen the wii's 2009 line up? If youv'e actually considered it then you will realise there are plenty of hardcore titles out there and even nintendo developed ones (sin and punishment comes to mind). Yes there is shovelware but that is nothing new looking at the ps2. As long as hardcore games keep being produced (madworld, mushroom men, conduit :) ) then I couldn't care less about the shovelware its not like I had to pay for it. I suppose the millions of teenage girls buying ps2's to play buzz or singstar wasn't a problem for the hardcore last gen was it. Yes I can see them all enjoying gears of war now.

I could turn your last sentence on you and argue that nintendo are turning their backs on the hardcore because as each generation goes on the hardcore have consitently turned their backs on them. They didn't want the wii to sell less than the Gamecube so they went down sony's route of the last 2 generations and are paying dividends.

Nintendo deserve recognition if you like them or not. Many 'hardcore' don't even consider the wii which is strange because I though true hardcore gamers play the games they like no matter what the public think of them. But if you ignore the wii you are missing out on some truly fantastic games this gen.

Opinions are subjective but the notion that nintendo have flat out abandoned gamers is just stupid if you look at the games and not the words of certain fanboys.

cryymoar6010d ago (Edited 6010d ago )

even though the PS3 had the best rated games of all 3 consoles in 2008?

"If sales are all gamers care about, some of you 360zealots need to start buying Wii's."
Excellent statement.

pain777pas6010d ago

360 IS DOOMED THIS YEAR!!!! This is the year of hearing of the 720. They got something maybe but not much. This will be Sony's year and demand will rise exponentially with a price drop which will happen this year. This will be the Year of the Playstation.

SM4RD6010d ago

Great! Another article about how one system will dominate in 2009! I'm so completely enthralled by this type of opinionated speculation by amateur authors from obscure websites!

anh_duong6010d ago

this is the year of

killzone
halo
uncharted
alan wake
gow3
infamous
sf4
zelda (possibly)

who the flying fricking f cares about consoles. it is GAMES that matters. GAMES! GAMES1 GAMES! we are all in this forum because we love games not consoles.

can we just rid journalism of fanboy inciting articles please. journalism like this is worth less than the paper i wipe my arse with.

if i had my way lazy journalism should be banned from N4G

AAACE56010d ago (Edited 6010d ago )

People post these articles like this, to fan the flames of the fanboy war and keep it hot in here! I mean... you just know an article like this will piss somebody off, and then all us innocent individuals have to deal with the problem, and watch our words carefully because of irritated fanboys looking for somewhere to take their anger out. Which usually leads to me losing bubbles for a comment that gets misunderstood!

kunit22c6010d ago

I couldnt help but notice that some people in here brought up the point that Nintendo has turned their back on gamers and all they care about is money. Well i think these comments are idiotic. If you ask me Nintendo is the most devoted to gamers considering all they sell is consoles, games, accesories for their console, and maybe some silly nintendo board game but its still a game. but then lets look at sony, they sell other products besides games and consoles. They sell TV's to blue ray players too VHS they sell alot of things, what do you think they sell these things because they care about gamers? nope, its about the money. then when sony laid off alot of workers (i cant remmeber the exact number) do you think they did it because they cared about the gamers? nope. Then Microsoft, they rushed the 360 and it got RROD and why was it rushed? because they cared for the gamers? no to make the next console ahead of Sony and Nintendo to make money. Then do you think Microsoft has you pay for online because they care about the gamers? no to make money. Then Microsoft also makes other things like computers and stuff for your computer, sure you could count a computer as a gaming system but they make a computer for other reasons then games is just like a bonus. but everyone reading dont get me wrong i like the ps3 and sony but just ddont try to use the defence of Nintendo doesnt care about gamers or they're just in it for the money. Notice how i didnt include I like the 360, well thats because i dont and its simply because of RROD and pay for online, sure i could have one right now but i would rather not go through that, i would rather save up for a ps3.

Shadow Flare6010d ago

wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait..........since when was 2008 the year of the 360?

Selling more then ps3 in the last 2 months of the year and Gears 2...are they the reasons?

And 2009 will be the year of the 360 because....of another halo game, a halo dlc pack and...what, i'm struggling now...what else? Multi-platform games?

No, unlike 360, ps3 had a wide variety of brilliant games in 2008. Quality and quantity. Same for 2009. And once ps3 gets its price cut in this year, it will be back to outselling 360 worldwide every single week again.

Care to correct me? Answers on a postcard please

Stubacca6010d ago

"so whats the rush to play the teacher of a special kids classroom and call everyone a winner?"

Bubbles for you mate. I agree with nearly always with everything you say. 2008 was an alright year for MS, but it really was Sony's year! 2009 looks empty for the 360 though, although it'd be nice if they had something decent to play!

I just hate these silly flamebait articles designed to promote a console that for all intents and purposes is damaged.

jammy_706009d ago

1 thing i do no is the ps3 has BETTER and MORE exclusives than the 360

dont disagree! it true .... :)

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Graphics Whore6010d ago

I'd like to seem some evidence behind the claim.

InMyOpinion6010d ago

I present to you...

Exhibit A - 2008
Exhibit B - 2007

Graphics Whore6010d ago

In what relative fashion? Sales figures compared to quality and amount of games?

Sales figures don't make gamers.

ChampIDC6010d ago

Well, the 360 has always been doing pretty well. 2008 was the year that Sony finally pulled everything together nicely IMO. This year, both consoles are going to be awesome yet again, and the Wii will continue to sell like hotcakes while only having 6-7 good new games.

pippoppow6010d ago

It was a close year with most believing the PS3 won when talking of game quality and content. PS3's known '09 lineup looks superior and may have an unannounced suprise gem or 2 this year as well. Just look on metacritic to see how games faired on average in '08. 360's lack of 1st/2nd Party Devs is showing especially as the years roll on.

littletad6010d ago (Edited 6010d ago )

Sigh... I really don't get people who bring this stuff up. "quality and amount of games"...

@below

Hardware sales? Yes. Software? Nope. So your description of "beat" is flawed. If one system "won" one way and the other "won" another, I'd like to think that gamers won too right?

@graphics whore

I apologize, my comment was directed to you, but I thought Jenzo meant 2006 and 2007. Therefore I thought you were commenting on those years. I do not agree with 2008 being Microsofts.

thebudgetgamer6010d ago (Edited 6010d ago )

Exhibit A - 2008
Exhibit B - 2007

i get it two years that the more expensive console with no games beat the 360 overall

:)

thebudgetgamer6010d ago

i dont care im not an economics major and those things meen nothing to me all i care about is fun games and i get that from my ps3 now and soon from the 360 i just like laughing at people that take these things to serious like they have stocks in either company

:)

006010d ago

According to Sony the 360 is the most expensive console out of all three, so it should be the second least expensive console with no games is beating the 360 overall etc.

:)

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MaximusPrime6010d ago (Edited 6010d ago )

another MS-bribed article.

edit: im in open-zone so i can say anything i want.

MGOelite6010d ago

holding back tears because some no-name site says that the 360 won 2008?, my god your more stupid than pp

TheOutsider6010d ago

YEAH, We are holding back tears of LAUGHTER!!! jackass!

Stubacca6010d ago

This is the funniest thing I've seen in a while! 2008 and 2009 was/will be sh*te for the 360. Saying it was great in 2008 is just plain wishful thinking.

What's next?
2008- The year of John McCain?
2009- The year of George W. Bush?

You X-bots are too funny sometimes. This is news like me wanting to bone Elisha Cuthbert is news...

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PPnoPP6010d ago

If you have nothing good to say SHUT IT and get out of the Xbox360 topic.

cereal_killa6010d ago

Whats wrong PP it's ok for you to invade every PS3 thread but someone who's a Sony fan comes in your home and it's not right! Poor baby you want some cheese with that wine. Its too bad you have to make multiple accounts to bubble yourself up and agree with everything you say.

morganfell6010d ago

You have been in every PS3 thread multiple times and now you have issue when the tables are turned? You are lucky the mods are cutting you so much slack and not tracking your IP to ban such an obvious duplicate account.

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Stubacca6010d ago

I'm a gamer first and foremost. I think if you post a retarded article such as this and call it NEWS and not PROPOGANDA, then everyone should be able to have a nosey and then laugh at how pathetic it is.

And as MorganFell said, you're seen posting on Sony-related articles. You're allowed to do this, even with your multiple accounts. I sometimes think all you fanboys are just POG with multiple accounts!

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ChampIDC6010d ago (Edited 6010d ago )

Third time's the charm? Maybe?

One can only hope...

Consoldtobots6010d ago

yeah I kinda did that Scooby Doo "huh" when I read that part, I personally know of two people whose 360 red ringed on them this week.
Wether they are old or new editions of the 360 I don't know but this problem has by no means "been licked".

littletad6010d ago

Exactly my thoughts each time you make a post.

Traveler6010d ago

Well to be fair, how do you know that the problems haven't mostly been solved with the Jasper chipsets? What evidence do you have?

mastiffchild6010d ago

B the same yardstick how does anybody dare say that the issues HAVE been fixed? They can't. MS can't, nobody can. I have a friend who says that the 360 he got late Nov was a Jasper and he's sent it away twice(or got another obne back after the first I'm not sure)when first it wouldn't read disks and secondly wouldn't power up at all. He hever RROD'd but still the reliablity for him hadn't got better.
I now this is just one guy and maybe he was unlucky but storuies of the Jasper failing aren't that rare atm(may be misguided though as one story I saw just assumed the two 360s they spoke of with RROD were Jasper soards because they were bought after OCT08 which obviously means nothing for sure.
So it goes on and shows that nobody can yet claim the Jasper has worked or still breaks too easily. Even if it had def worked nobody should be claiming that finally after all this time and three revisions their product might not fail as much is anything to be proud of in any way-well done t should have always worked and it doesn't fill you with hope either. Just something I'd have left out I feel.
Oh and 2008 wasn't really the 360's was it? Five good weeks at the end of the year dn't quite do it for me I'm afraid. Gears2 is VERY good but it isn't so good it makes everything Sony did right disappear.

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lukasmain12d ago

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OtterX12d ago

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I stopped playing completely 2 years ago until they did 60fps. I really didn't expect it would take this long & I didn't want to start completely over on PC.

GamerRN10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I've been waiting for 60 to finish the game myself

OtterX10d ago

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Lionsguard11d ago

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