We recently interviewed Final Fantasy XVI staff at PAX East 2024, namely producer Naoki Yoshida and DLC director Takeo Kujiraoka, discussing the upcoming The Rising Tide DLC while reflecting on the development process of Final Fantasy XVI as a whole
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I’m sure Xbox gamers are also looking forward to FFVII Remake dropping this fall/winter, probably more so than FFXVI.
But will it sell well? Let's see if everyone that was bemoaning this title as a PS5 exclusive now has the balls to back it up and purchase this game on Xbox. This game sold over 3 million copies in three days on PS5 alone. Let's see how many Xbox players will show up.
Why do we even ask this when the facts will speak for themself in the future? Let's just be happy the game is more available to more gamers. We can discuss the sales of the game when they actually happen.
Why do you care so much about how well this game sells on Xbox? What do you gain by learning how well it sells? Maybe you should focus more on why the game STILL runs like crap on PS5…
Why do you care why some people care if it sells on XB or not? What do you gain by trying to call them out for wanting to know that info. The pot calling the kettle black.
"Maybe you should focus more on why the game STILL runs like crap on PS5…"
Isn't that on the devs to fix?
And if it can't run well on PS5, isn't Xbox in trouble too?
@KPGS couldn’t the same be said about him worrying about sales? Shouldn’t stock holders be the one worried about that not consumers?
@tay8701 unless you’re playing a completely different version of FF16 than everyone else it still runs like crap on PS5 and on Pro so I’m not sure what dreams you be having…
At Traecy Oh you’re one of those guys i see. Ok I’ll play along, why are you worried about me be worried about someone being worried about sales? See what I did there…
It's not about selling, it's about mending bridges.
Honestly, a huge chunk of ppl owning an Xbox do own a PlayStation console, something that Phil Spencer alluded to before the release of the Series X with why releasing a Series S console.
https://www.gamedeveloper.c...
And true Final Fantasy fans probably bought a PS5 when they announced only on PS5.
So don't expect a lot of sales for these games.
So, and old game that was later called "not really a FF" game and many concluded that has annoying gameplay issues(no real elemental structure)which everyone know about..and you expect it to seel super well.
They hype has been gone for this game, and the fact that there are so many other newer stellar RPG currently available.
Thry don't buy games hardly at all anymore. It won't sell well. Will likely leave square Enix scratching their heads and thinking "oh shit, maybe taking money and dev assistance from Sony for it to be exclusive is the better financial move after all"
It won't really be a true reflection of what marketshare the Xbox platform would have of the game if it had released day and date. I would have been a day one buyer but its been out for so long I've since bought it on my PC and I can't imagine I am alone in that.
On the game itself I thought it was extremely disappointing and such a dull game outside of the big boss moments. Had a potentially great story and I just don't think they delivered on its potential.
FF7 remake is another one that whilst I liked and I loved reunion, cutting out a lot of the waffle they introduced and having those two games as one entry would have been better. Chadley is a horrible addition to those games.
I’m replaying this game right now on Ps5 and while i like it a bit better this time (cause i knew what to expect) some of the choices made in this game gameplay and traversal wise are still mind-numbingly baffling to me.
Final Fantasy 16 has likely sold more than 3.5 million copies.
The analyst is called Hideki Yasuda. In 2021 he claimed the 'Fall of PlayStation in Japan is “Definitive”'
https://nichegamer.com/rese...
In 2024 he Hideki Yasuda said The Sony Group may see PS5 as a failure and the envisioned goals are unattainable.
https://www.resetera.com/th...
Curious as to what this means:
'The Japanese branch of GamesIndustry.biz (Translation: DeepL, adjusted)'.
What is DeepL?
@Knushwood Butt
It looks like you also don't know that Google is.
Pro-tip: enter google.com, type "What is DeepL?" and press enter.
What about all the damage he did? People were talking like this game was a flop.
I think that is why he is apologizing. He wants to make sure he doesn’t get sued for defamation.
This isn’t news. The analyst could be right or wrong. Square Enix hasn’t said anything.
When there is knowledge of actual sales you wouldn’t need an analyst. He more or less admits his analysis is wrong but that’s bound to happen in that field. They make predictions that they hope will be useful. This wasn’t.
Anyway, it seems people are taking my comment as an attack on this game. I like the game and hope it does well. Hopefully FF gets a resurgence. They pretty much deserve that. I just think this story is of no importance.
Obviously a game that stayed on the top ten then regularly returned to the top 10/20 and then released on PC would have sold more than .5m more than the first week sales.
Final Fantasy 16 Sold 3 Million Copies During Launch Week
"Square Enix said the milestone includes both physical and digital sales on PlayStation 5."
https://www.ign.com/article...
@pwnmaster3000
They don't wanna believe....... narratives need to be upheld at all costs
Exactly. The analyst does not mean anything.
As far as we know the official sales are still at 3 million.
Always thought it was the case, sold 3 million in the first week and 300k on PC from the last numbers we got, so only 200k extra copies in almost 2 years on PS5 and since the PC release?
Make it make sense lol
Doesn’t matter. People will still believe the mistake. How are you an analyst and get it wrong?
Yep. You better believe in two years when people are making an argument about big AAA games not selling enough, or PS5 exclusives not selling, or Japanese games not selling, or whatever the dumb argument happens to be, this "number" will get cited as evidence. The retraction never has the same reach as the false story.
Lifetime sales of Square Enix's action role-playing game, Final Fantasy XVI, have reached 3.5 million copies.
A terrible game, but good it sold well then they keep the franchise alive. I hope they do better next time with an RPG and not a dmc clone..
I think they’re saying it underperformed and isn’t selling well. It was 3 mill near launch, it only did 500k more and that’s even after a PC launch.
This article is a lie. They announced 3m in a week on ps5. It finished top 20 for the year it release and continued top 20 throughout 2024. By this logic it sold over 3m on launch week and then never sold another copy until pc release.
Also, They are not considering that this was exclusive to PlayStation. Am I correct in this?
If so, its clickbait.
@S2Killinit
They mention the PC version… like 3 mill was the announcement, like a month after release. Now, after the PC release there’s 3.5 mill units sold.
Square has already come out saying this and Rebirth underperformed. Considering how much they spent on development and marketing and the way sales aren’t moving to recoup cost, it’s a little concerning to me, especially as a mega-fan of this franchise.
I didn’t think 16 was the worst game I played, but outside of some epic boss battles and the Benedikta arc… I found it rather boring. The DLC have the best boss fights in a game I’ve played in a while though.
Lol no, it's not a terrible game. Far from it actually. It's just not a FF game.
The problem for me is that the combat was not varied or customisable enough to last the game’s play time.
Otherwise, I agree with RaiderNation it is the reason I held out from buying it until it initially, is it was not the genre I wanted. I am happy for a series to change and grow but I want an RPG to some extent. It’s a shame because it handled narrative and dialogue pretty well.
You buy a game called FF to realize it’s something else is utter lie. I would never have bought it if it was called something else. The game is so boring and poorly exexuted. Beginning and ending are the good sides of it. Rest is trash
@Cacabunga
What did you do? Walk into Gamestop and completely blind buy it without reading any of the reviews/previews or watching any of the YouTube reviews? Hell the game had a demo you could try out before deciding to buy! Don't give me the whole "wow I was completely blindsided by this and had no idea" excuse. That's on you. If you didn't like it, fine. Opinions vary. But don't act like you were a victim to some bait and switch attempt because that's just not reality.
I am an old time FF fan so i never want to spoil any episode. I didnt even want to finish the demo. I liked the feel of it but i didnt expect it would turn into a pure action game.
No i dont watch reviews because they are subjective.
Its ok i didnt like the game things like this happen. Game was just ridiculous, side quests are absolute trash. I have platinum trophy I know what i am talking about.
I supported it as a FF fan, i hope they do better next time.
if you played ff 14 this really did feel like an improved mmo...that is 10 years old.
first ff entry l barely finished and traded in. Bloody horrible storytelling. The story was okay, the execution was cringe af.
Amazingly however the first part was the best part, the demo being the highlight.
Yeah, these numbers are a little hard to believe. If it sold 3 million in the first week and had even a semi-decent launch on PC, for these numbers to be right you'd have to assume it sold basically zero copies on PS5 after its launch week. Given it was in the NPD Top Ten in its second month, and the top twenty its third month, that's hard to believe, even if I'm sure they anticipated it charting higher for longer. That's to say nothing of sales boosts it probably got from PSN sales.
The link that the article is mentioning doesn’t give much context. It likely needs good translation as well.
I hope this helps the 'complete' edition go on sale for a huge discount. It went on sale a while ago for only about 25% off but I'm waiting for that 50% off (or higher) sweet spot.
It underperformed because it was on less platforms I get no one wants to admit
That
It wouldn't have sold that much that better had it also released on XB, people on XB would have only played FFXVI if it was on Gamepass.
If it has the opportunity to launch on all platforms at launch then yes the sales would have been better but it is difficult to say by how much. It would have benefited from the excitement and marketing in that window.
One thing to bear in mind is that it would be a struggle to get the game running on the Xbox because of the series S. The game does not hit a stable 60 on either the base PS5 or PS5 Pro. Based on Digital foundry, it only hits 60 FPS during fight sequences on base PS5. The game is also set to have dynamic resolution so instead of prioritizing frame rate in non battle sequences, the game prioritizes resolution making it difficult for the PS5 Pro to maintain 60 FPS as the game tries to reach 4k native instead of using PSSR. Square really should have updated the game.
I am not saying all this to be unfair to the Xbox because I believe I am one of the most fair users towards that platform on this site. I am just giving you my honest opinion based on my experience with the game.
It´s happening
We'll see, either Microsoft are praying then a truck load of money to bring it over, or they are willing to see if it will sell. If it's the latter then Xbox gamers better show up to buy it- if they don't square enix won't bother again.
Yyeeeahhh......
I think with the new Xbox relationship and seeing how these games aren’t meeting sales expectations it makes sense that they’re Putting them on Xbox.
Final Fantasy XVI on Panasonic 3DO or PC Engine CD