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Persona 3: Reload (PC) Review | VGChartz

VGChartz's Paul Broussard: "There is a lot to like, and even love about Persona 3, but it’s all buried underneath an incredible amount of tediousness - a very slow start to the story, an insipid amount of busywork and bland grinding in Tartarus, and a fairly unengaging overworld - so it’s tough to say I found myself enjoying it as a first timer. Perhaps it’s unfair to judge an older title by more modern standards, and I’m sure for people who enjoyed the original game, there’s no reason to dislike what’s here. If you're someone who doesn't mind a lot of busy work and a slow start in exchange for an interesting story (particularly the ending), then feel free to ignore everything written previously. However, it’s tough for me personally to view this as anything other than an average experience."

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H977d ago

"Perhaps it’s unfair to judge an older title by more modern standards"

Oh yes because mission and story structure nowadays is not just repetitive quests and Hollywood bait cutscenes and dialogue

Machina76d ago

Almost certain he's referring to Persona 4 & 5 there (since he discusses them elsewhere in the review).

GoodGuy0976d ago

I agree it's way too slow and tedious compared to 4 and 5. You can really tell that this was the first game within the trio of 3-5 and made on the ps2, Atlus did a pretty good job though with the visuals and much of the improvements it has and mostly sticking faithful to the original... don't think the game is a 5/10 though lol.

SegaSaturn66976d ago

Persona 3 Tartarus is one of my favourite dungeon designs ever. Just an endless climb, no stupid switch puzzles or fetching nonsense. Just surviving with limited resources. Genius.

DrDoomer76d ago

This is what happens when you don't have a professional reviewer to give an objective analysis, and you just get a random schmo to post his personal opinion.

Brazz76d ago

You just described VGChartz reviwers in general. The bias and subjectivity there is gigantic, in especial for some Nintendo titles.

coolbeans75d ago

-"a professional reviewer to give an objective analysis"

What exactly is demanded to reach this threshold? Because 9 times out of 10 it seems like conforming more to everyone else, regardless of one's own unique complaints, is the motivating factor to be considered "objective."

DrDoomer75d ago

His unique complaints basically amount to - "y'all might like it, but I found it boring, so I give it a mediocre/10"

coolbeans75d ago (Edited 75d ago )

You understand he detailed *why* he found it boring both in the review and the description above, right? Again, I just don't get what counts as earning an "objective" analysis by your rationale.

DrDoomer74d ago

Yeah, he said he found parts of the game tedious, which is a synonym for boring.

An objective analysis is being able to recognize that some people will find it tedious, while others will love every second of it, and then basing your score on that overall knowledge. Stepping over your own ego and biases and giving credit where it's due. Rating the game as an overall experience, rather than taking a part of it that you personally weren't into and then basing your entire conclusion around that. And then slapping a score on it that is so far out of whack with both the industry and consumer consensus, that you're either some brilliant outlier who is smarter than everybody else, or you're a goofball who is flat out wrong. It's obviously the latter.

Hope this stops you from asking any more stupid questions. Have a good day.

coolbeans73d ago

-"An objective analysis is being able to recognize that some people will find it tedious, while others will love every second of it, and then basing your score on that overall knowledge."

But all of that is seemingly achieved just within the description posted above! lol

-"Rating the game as an overall experience, rather than taking a part of it that you personally weren't into and then basing your entire conclusion around that. And then slapping a score on it that is so far out of whack with both the industry and consumer consensus..."

But, as far as I'm aware, these features here aren't just "a part" of the larger whole but rather take up a sizable portion of the overall experience. Is it unfair to be heavily critical to an interminable slog *if* that takes up ~1/3 of your overall time with the game? All of this just seems to stem back to a score than the written rationale behind it.

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FinalFantasyFanatic76d ago (Edited 76d ago )

That score is brutal for a game of this calibre, its biggest issue is the pacing, that has always been a common complaint compared to its successors, I also hear the remake is easier than the other versions of P3, which is a downer, but it's essentially the same game. I also don't mind if you complain about missing content like the P3P Fem MC, and the FES content (supposedly a upcoming DLC).

Other than that, it's a pretty great game and it's successors just build upon it, you need to bump that score up another 2 points at least to have this review taken seriously (the game is above average, easily). And if you look at the original P3 release, it was a revolutionary game for it's time, I still can't think of any game like this franchise.

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Persona 3 Reload, Like a Dragon Success Proves The Viability of Turn-Based RPGs

Nameer from eXputer: "With Persona and Like a Dragon, SEGA delivers a bold middle finger to the idea that turn-based games are outdated and I couldn't be happier."

Barlos36d ago

I love RPGs and spent 151 hours with Infinite Wealth. Currently playing through Rebirth and Reload, and I have to say I'm far more engaged with Reload because I prefer the turn based combat. I'm not a fan of the real time combat in Rebirth. If the game and story wasn't so good, I likely wouldn't entertain it at all. I much prefer turn based games.

CrimsonWing6936d ago

As someone who prefers turn-based I’ve real-time, I can definitively say I would choose Rebirth’s battle system over everything. It’s the perfect fusion of turn-based and real-time and I get. Rush using it over turn-based. That being said I do like the turn based for Infinite Wealth.

Barlos35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

I agree, even over 150+ hours I never once found the combat in Infinite Wealth a chore, I loved every minute of it. I can't agree with Rebirth's system though. There's something about it that just doesn't click with me. I prefer pure turn based combat for sure. That's why I also enjoy Persona's combat so much - in particular P5 Royal. With all the Persona fusing options it adds a lot of depth, and you really can create the perfect Persona for you.

shinoff218335d ago

Same thing, nostalgia and story. My biggest issues in rebirth are combat, and not being able to talk to npcs.

VersusDMC35d ago

Persona 3 reload and infinite weath boasts sales of 1 million at launch on multiple platforms.

https://www.ign.com/article...

https://personacentral.com/...

And Rebirth launched to 2 million which is seen as concerning on one platform.

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Why is it more viable to make turn based games when they sell half as much?

Theses articles should at least highlight turn based games that sell the same or more than non turn based games to make a coherent argument. Like Pokemon or Honkai Star Rail.

Ironmike35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Rebirth sales are do wn there's multiple articles stating it hasn't sold as well I don't y game is fantastic but it hasn't done was well hope they do 3 as spent a lot time on both remake and rebirth but I like both turn based and live action

raWfodog35d ago

The author acts like turn-based RPGs are a dying genre. Recent successful games such as Octopath Traveler series, Sea of Stars, the Trails series, Honkai Star Rail, and Baldurs Gate 3 (mentioned in the article) would prove that there is still market out there hungry for them. I’m blessed enough to love both turn-based and action rpg games.

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Persona 3 Reload Expansion Pass Is Free To Keep For Xbox Game Pass Ultimate Subscribers

The expansion pass for Sega and Atlus' role-playing game, Persona 3 Reload, is free to keep for subscribers of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate.

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Kayser8166d ago

its true i just added into my account .
so stop lying .