Yes, Hell Divers II Has Microtransactions but It Isn’t Bad as You Think

The Outerhaven writes: While Hell Divers II does have microtransactions, they aren't being forced on players, and they are for cosmetics and other gear you can't get normally.

[TwoPicklesGood]

Its a PAID game so yes, microtransactions are as bad as they think. They aren’t truly pay to win but they are still bad. Hell, anytime there is an article trying to convince you they aren’t bad, you know damn well they are lol.

[GamerRN]

I'm so confused, everytime PlayStation has micro transactions, it's never a big deal. But any other company, especially Big M, then the Ponies come out swinging.

Yet, here they are defending... Not in the case of this poster, but see below...

[-Foxtrot]

Tell me about it

MTs are MTs

Why are we suddenly defending this now

Yeah sure the game is good and is a success but it doesn’t hide the fact MTs are a cancer to the industry.

People need to stop cherry picking what to call out

[IRetrouk]

Must be that xbox tax.
Forza has had every dlc car turned into Mt's so far, the only one I think doesn't have the option yet is motorsport 8, yet nothing is ever mentioned about it, on the other hand, gt 7 got lots of heat for their 3 credit option, so it's really not as black and white as you make out.

[shinoff2183]

Yep that's bullshit. Read my comment above. And I definitely root for Sony more the ms.

It's all made up in your head. Just like that dumb xbox tax some swear by

[GamerRN]

@shinoff

The article title literally defends them...

[GamerRN]

I don't peep ever, because I'm ok with cosmetics that don't affect gameplay. CoD was close to pay to win, which I hated. But if you ask cosmetics I couldn't care less, even if you charge 100$ I don't care. It's a great way to make money for your game, me and if you don't like it, you don't need to buy them.

But this isn't about that, it's about how one particular side always forgives their master, while everything the other side does is condemned. Honestly, this behavior is hurting gaming, and it's holding it back from becoming accepted. If gaming doesn't jump to the mainstream like movies, the money and margins will be so low that we will lose what we consider AAA gaming. I hate to say it, but we need the mainstream. And we need competition.

[victorMaje]

@Foxtrot

Yeah I feel they almost pulled a fast one on me there.
I still maintain it’s not pay to win & you can unlock a lot in reasonable times, but after consideration it’s a $40 game, with MTs, that shouldn’t be ok. Also the fact it’s a successful game should be enough argument against the MTs.

@GameRN
Cosmetics are part of gameplay. Especially when you respect the game’s ethos, gameplay is enhanced, unlike COD, which butchers its ethos, doesn’t care about you the player. It should be considered as an artistic insult when a game like COD adds singers, soccer players or superhero character operators.

[GamerRN]

Cosmetics are a fair way for a game to make money and not affect gameplay. If you don't like that, then perhaps you should avoid those games. If a company gets to make more games with more content because some idiot bought the Santa Claus costume for their GTA character, so be it

[shinoff2183]

Agreed. Microtransactions are a stain on the industry and today's gaming.

[shinoff2183]

#gamern

I was referring to z2g

I should've @him

[thorstein]

Twilight zone.

[CrimsonWing69]

LMAO ok ok ok I want us to somehow pin this and bookmark this, because this is hypocrisy at its finest! Helldivers 2 is a GaaS game and yet it’s ok and the microtransactions are ok because “it’s not as bad as you think.”

Well, let’s just hope that the rest of the GaaS games that will eventually phase out traditional games aren’t “as bad as you think.”

[GamerRN]

I absolutely agree with you... It's amazing how one sided it's gotten...

[LikAChicken]

I started looking at this site around 2007, and I distinctly remember how one-sided it was (heavily leaning toward Microsoft vs Sony). I JUST started paying attention to this site this year after stopping around 2011.

It's fascinating to see how the discourse on this site has largely remained the same but is in favor of Sony at this time. I don't get the need to put blinders on this hard.

[GamerRN]

I agree... I'm not in favor of either side, I just can't get over how childish it makes gamers look when they become fanboys.

[bababooiy]

Notice how Sony just fired 900 people and plans to fire more yet literally 0 news about it anywhere here on this site.

[Christopher]

I'm tired of making my stance on this, which is very anti-MTX, because both sides tend to vote me into oblivion. People just don't understand how gameplay is being changed to increase the chances that people will invest in MTX. And a lot of people here are like "I played 50 hours this week and didn't have to spend anything" when most people aren't spending that much time to play and aren't getting the same out of their time. Casual market is their target for this stuff and it affects us all. I'm not happy spending twice as long to accomplish a task because they want casual gamers to feel like it's all they can do in game, if at all.

[Ironmike]

Not many ppl who work and have family can plY 50 hrs and the rate of supercredits is not good I played a lot of this game and I felt inclined to buy the premium warbond

[thorstein]

It's anything though about a game that gets hate.

For example: the Order 1886. Length was suddenly a major sticking point and was bandied about how horrible the game must be.

So MTs, GaAs, DRM are all on Helldivers 2. It's a fun game. It launched terribly. It has bugs (and not the kind you kill) Somehow that's a 9/10.

Other GaAs, MTs, DRM, games that are fun with solid launches (with more players) get utter hate.

(Not that they shouldn't.)

I only play on PS and PC. I don't get this hypocrisy at all.

[Duke19]

Reads a lot like:

"Microtransactions are bad unless its a game I like!"

Microtransactions are anti-consumer no matter how they are built into the game. The more people normalize the idea of locking content behind paywalls (and keep buying it!) the more this will just be the standard across the board

[blacktiger]

it is but if you can earn with game currency then what the hell do i care? once they force you there is no way, then yea it is bad as fk!

[Duke19]

as long as it has an actual monetary price tied to it, I think its a really slippery slope. If a developer puts something for $5 USD on an ingame marketplace OR gives the option to grind for 50-250 hours worth of ingame currency for an example, in most cases that is still effectively just a paywalled microtransaction.

I guess as soon as they attach a $ to anything in game, it becomes less about delivering content for the player, and just about simply making more cash. Hence my "fuck all microtransactions" take

[TheColbertinator]

They all suck. No exceptions

[z2g]

It’s not as bad when Sony does it….

[Inverno]

It's sold quite well and continues selling quite well, so it doesn't need em at all.

[THEzRude]

Tell me yall havent played the game without telling me you havent played the game...
You can literally FARM the prerium currency in game. You dont have to buy a single microtransaction.
I played couple day and i got the 1000 Prerium coins to buy the battlepass.

Keep whining tho <3

[ModsDoBetter]

Lies.

You get 10-40 super credits per hour.

So you somehow squeezed 100 hours out of a 48hr period playing pretty passively or you sweated for 25hrs out of a 48hr period and consistently hit 40 coins per hour to get your 1000 coins.

Which one are we going for, eh?

Developer estimated 50-100hrs for players to get Steeled Veterans using earned credits so uh...yeah, I smell Sony defence force bs, my guy.

Source: Developer FAQ.

[P_Bomb]

For the record, I just bought super credits with medals. They pay out in the hundreds early on. Have earned over 1000 super credits in total. I don’t care what anyone says including FAQs. I know what I’ve done. 39 hours in, with a chunk of that waiting in queues lol.

[P_Bomb]

@disagree. Turn on your PS5. Turn on the game. Still with me? Start the game. Press square to enter the acquisition center. Open the warbond with X.
Page 1 has 100 super credits to claim.
Page 2 has another 100 super credits to claim. Page 3 has another 100 super credits to claim.
Page 4 has another 100 super credits to claim
Page 5 has another 100 super credits to claim

Thats enough to get you a new outfit in the superstore. Halfway to the next Warbond.

[ModsDoBetter]

@Disagrees

So delusional.
These are the words of the literal developers. I know you want to believe papa Sony can do no wrong and will believe whatever nonsense the Sony Defence Force spout.

The fact of the matter is that TheRude is massively exaggerating.

Need I remind you, I have provided a source and that source is THE LITERAL GAME DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

Calm your delusions.

[Ironmike]

He full of it it's slow to get credits

[Moe-Gunz]

I’m another who plays this game a lot. Never felt like any currency is hard to come by. P_Bomb is correct. You can get super credits from the Warbonds easily. You also find them around the maps. You can farm them by playing pretty easy missions and grabbing them around the map.

IDK. I agree generally MTX are bad but this game provides so many ways that paying for anything is unnecessary. Unless you just want to support the game. Remember all future updates are free.

[ModsDoBetter]

These people are clowns, they're literally claiming the devs are lying.

You honestly cannot discuss something with a fanboy when they refuse to acknowledge hard evidence and instead continue to exaggerate with their ridiculous anecdotes.

Anything to downplay microtransactions in a Sony title, right?

[THEzRude]

Then you dont know how to farm them. Sucks to be you.

[shinoff2183]

Yep. Still bs though.

[THEzRude]

I aint lying. If you dont get 1000 SC's in couple days by farming em,. you jsut suck at it.
L2P.
Nobody cares about your microtransaction weeping. Get a job you poor losers.

[ModsDoBetter]

"Then you dont know how to farm them. Sucks to be you."

Imagine being so deluded that you're claiming the devs don't know the actual output of coins. You're wild. 😂

[THEzRude]

Then explain how i have gained 2812 SC's in total un 50h gametime....
Less crying more liberating.

[ModsDoBetter]

You lied? Idk what to tell you, you're full of it, maybe?

Given the developers have confirmed what you're claiming to be impossible.

[THEzRude]

Just L2p mate. Not my fault you spent your time dying instead of farming. Get on my level pleb.

[ModsDoBetter]

Lol you're either 14 or a very sad middle aged adult. Re-evaluate your life.

[P_Bomb]

You’re losing control Myersio. Insulting ppl now? Consider that like most games, players might just be exceeding the developers’ expectations as far as what can be accomplished. Not everything is some fanboy conspiracy lol!

[ModsDoBetter]

Insulting people now?

"Get on my level pleb."

Clearly you have the reading comprehension of a five year old when you can't even read what you wrote.

It's not a conspiracy, you're just a liar. The game devs proved that. :)

[THEzRude]

Ypu clearly havent figured out that the suepr credits spawns in game at the map on random locations.

Instead of being a cry baby. go play the game kiddo.

[THEzRude]

Not my fault i just know what im doing. If you cant do it thats on you. Sucks to suck m i right ?

[northpaws]

For an online only $40 games, if not for some additional purchase how does it fund the new content? Nowadays people don't even use their brains, they are just like "oh, it has micro-transactions, it has to be bad, I am so awesome"...

[franwex]

I thought it funds it when console players pay for online access.

[Moe-Gunz]

Funds the servers for the PS Network and XBL and allows those companies to invest in future projects but actual continues development for a specific studios one game? No.

Arrowhead will have to take their profits and reinvest it into their game. This is why MTX exist. However, it’s not egregious like some games. People do paint a general picture with MTX.

Arrowhead could’ve went with the paid DLC strategy but I’ll assume that it’ll make keeping the game universal for everyone harder if some has new content and others don’t. Therefore, they went with all new content free approach.

[LoveSpuds]

I avoid online games completely so my experience with GaaS is very limited, the last one I played (but bounced off very quickly) was the first Destiny game.

With that said, I got caught up in the hype and loved the footage from some of my fave podcasters etc, so I took the plunge.

I don't have much to compare HellDivers 2 too, but I have played over 55 hours now (level 38) and I have spent any real money and I have unlocked around 85 percent of the purchasable items just by playing the game.

[Skuletor]

As far as I'm concerned, if they want to have a bunch of micro-transactions like a Free to Play game, then they should make it a free to play game.

[GamingSinceForever]

MTs are a cancer/stain to the industry according to some, yet the same people are concerned that developers are getting laid off at an alarming rate.

You can’t make this shit up.

MTs mean jack to me because I don’t spend on them. It’s just that simple.

[mastershredder]

Hey kids we are totally hinting that micro-transactions are GOOD thing, meanwhile there is a slew of glazed over chumps in line to defend it. Hilarious and delicious.

[PhillyDonJawn]

Crazy how they suddenly defending MTs

[Tedakin]

They're totally fine. You can get enough Super Credits from the free battle pass and in the world to never spend a dime. I found 30 Super Credits in one match the other day.

[Ironmike]

Wete did u find 30 I played shit load of this never found thirty in one game

[ModsDoBetter]

Because they're lying mate.

[frostypants]

It's very reasonable and you can easily obtain the items just by playing a bit. There is almost no benefit to actually putting money into it. For now, anyway. I hope they keep it this way but I'm cynical.

[Ironmike]

No u can't I played hrs of this it's slow

[Moe-Gunz]

You doing something wrong then. Are you not exploring the maps or grabbing the 100 credits in each warbond page?

[repsahj]

I don't like the microtransaction, but that doesn't mean I don't like the game. I will play this game until I get bored, but I won't buy anything from the microtransaction.

[BlaqMagiq1]

MTs have been and will ALWAYS be garbage no matter the game. It's ESPECIALLY worse in premium games.

[Ironmike]

The amount of super credits u find are low u have to plY hrs to get a few anyone saying different is lying some of the good weapons and armour are hidden behind the premium warbond which I bought cos its was painfully slow geti g the credits to earn

[StoneTitan]

I have the premium got to page 3 and I dont use any of the weapons, I use the ones from the helldiversmobilize.
What weapon do you use from the premium and armor?
I think its prettymuch useless at thispoint

[Ironmike]

I love the game its self but there is a grind

[Moe-Gunz]

Think the problem with gamers is they don’t believe in nuance arguments. This is why so many comments are ridiculous.

[Barlos]

But when GT7 came out it was hailed as the devil in game form because of its MTs even though they're also not obligatory.

Why, suddenly, are MTs OK in games now? Sorry no. When you've paid for the game, there is zero excuse for MTs in any form!

[SoloGamer1]

you dont HAVE to use them.. you can earn stuff IN THE GAME as you play. The microtransactions arent anywhere near as intrusive as other live service games.

[lellkay]

Microtransactions in a paid game, that's a no from me I'm afraid.

[BlackTar187]

lol this comment section is like a group of battered wives. Omg Sony lol they get special treatment lmao