The world doesn't know much about The Last of Us Part III yet, but given the issues, fans have voiced and what few areas the second game left open for improvement, fans should expect at least a few reasonable changes. Wealth of Geeks speculates on some of them with a breakdown of things The Last of Us Part III needs to touch on.
The Last of Us 3's story is a mystery, but the game has a lot of heavy lifting to do if it wants to match Part 2's environmental storytelling.
Idk why folks even bother bringing up this, Rex dead 3 and the next God of War title we are years away from each one lol, I'm sure they'll be dope tho. I did enjoy Last of us 2 more than I thought, after I got over the whole joel thing. Start to finish, exploration is done so well, post apocalyptic genre needs more in depth titles like these, metro series, dying light and others.
Both were amazing games. I’m worried that we are going to get less and less games like this in the future.
Last of Us Part 3 needs to let us kill Abby using the environment and create a story with the environment.
Yeah but you think every playstation game is a 10/10, so your opinion isnt something to go by.
And where did you get that idea from? Its not my fault that they make good games…
Also, are you Saltdaddy?
I didn't even know they were making The Last Of Us 3🤔 I hope they make a new IP instead of TLOU3. The franchise and writing is starting to get stale imo. Making part 2 was unnecessary
From what’s been rumored a lot the new IP is next and maybe TLOU3 would be after that.
From VGC: "Naughty Dog co-president Neil Druckmann has seemingly hinted at plans for a third entry in its The Last of Us series.
While not confirming if The Last of Us Part 3 is coming or not, series director and co-writer Druckmann told The Hollywood Reporter: “I think there’s more story to tell.”"
Maybe it's Kratos all over again. Ellie is now exhausted with revenge and the hate that had overtaken her heart, so she settles down, becomes Eddie. Grows a beard. Reunites with her adoptive son JJ who she fines out is also a cure. Son wants to sacrifice himself to save humanity.Yada yada..
All this because Ellie had a girlfriend? Lol it's not that big of a deal. I don't think it would have changed the game so much if she was into sausage.
@sully
Ellie from the last of us part 1 is not into girls though. It was with left behind dlc that they decided to go that route.
Not to mention its a little gross for a grown man to be thinking of lesbian 12 yr olds. Left behind arguably doesn't prove she is a lesbian either. Ellie kissing a beloved friend doesn't scream lesbian to me. Girls tend to be far more affectionate anyways.
Lol @SullysCigar sorry, it was just a harmless joke about all of the people so vocal about their Last of Us 2 hate. ((You should be used to my dumb, playful jokes on this site by now!) I simply stated that she grew a beard bc that's what is trendy these days! I can respect the story the creators want to tell, whether we like it or not, it's their story to tell. The overall story was (mostly) well done, w maybe some dragged out parts and shoehorned moments that didn't feel organic.
You can go back through my posting history if you want and see that I was one of the ones who actually really enjoyed the game. The Abby part is TOO long IMO, but I found that dynamic of facing off against Ellie pretty intriguing.
Yea, I hated that they killed Joel so fast, but the series was always about unpleasant, uncomfortable stories. I can hate his death, but enjoy the emotional rollercoaster I endured w it. Again in the theater scene, I almost had to put the controller down, it was killin' me having to beat Ellie to a pulp as Abby. That part was brilliant and heart wretching.
And yet...he only thinks there is....shows how incapable this guy is when it comes to storytelling.
Disagree. The world is pretty pedestrian cliche zombie land stuff. The strength was in the characters and part 2 robbed us of half of that. They'll probably kill Ellie and make us play as the coyote that gave her rabies or something...
This is such a great point. How will they ever create more characters? Impossible!
Yep I was right. Well the rumor was right. Of course I got downvoted for it but the truth is the the truth. I actually ok with more Last Of Us.
Didn’t they just announce their next project will be more like a TV series or something along those lines? I think that might be a new IP… though I could be wrong and they’re taking an existing one and making it episodic.
No it means he's forming a writing team like tv rather than the games being episodic, which wouldn't be good imo
Same Tbh
I don't mind TLOU 3 as i more of it whatever it's the same characters or different characters but leave that to the end of this gen give us new IP instead
Same. The world is awesome, but with the TV series and the multiplayer coming soon, we need a break before a sequel. That will make it all the more enjoyable.
Playing a game as Ellie where she kills more after that ending would be like Batman not killing joker but killing henchmen. Would kind of undermine the point of the ending to me. But hope people enjoy it
This illogical narrative is adopted in many films/shows/games .. all those side character are just disposable assets to give more excitement till you reach the ending point where the main character, the hero, turns into a saint.
This is my issue with the "franchise" obsession, narratives should not continue indefinitely.
Imagine a song that just never ended.
Naughty Dog needs to do ANYTHING but that. Last of Us IP is actually driving people away from ND (week sales and reception of 2 and the remake don't lie). Naughty Dog is now a one-trick pony show.
I agree with the first part of your comment, I think last of us 2 closed things of perfectly and think the last thing we need is part 3 right now.
I disagree they are a one trick pony, if they decided to do a new ip they would smash it out of the park which is why I want to see a new ip from them instead.
They can revisit a part 3 later down the line when people would be hungry for a part 3.
Right now they need to get out factions and then give us a new ip, I don't want another uncharted or last us.
I loved those games but it's time for some new things now.
Imo Tlou 1 could have been closed off. It didn't need a sequel to be honest. Leave it as it is(Like Shadow of the Collosus), but they made a part 2..now a part 3 is needed to close it off completely.
But yeah i agree...we could also use another new fresh IP from ND.
Ghost of Tsushima sold 8 million copies. According to Days Gone director the game sold more than 8 million copies. Horizon Zero Dawn sold 20 million copies total and I think it's safe to say that the PS4 version accounts for more than half of the total sales. Taking in consideration that these are numbers for brand new IPs then I would say that 10 million copies is an underwhelming number for a game that was the sequel to one of the best games of all time.
Award’s mean nothing just like the Oscar’s etc.
The fact is tlou2 total sales are way below tlou1 and that means that the trend is pointed down.
@BlackTar187
You don't think the fact that the first one came out 9 years ago and has been released 3 times plays a significant factor in that?
There is the story of Joels grandson going on a revenge quest to kill Abby.
Continuing the cycle of hatred.
I had always thought of a prequel to the events in the first game. You go through the days after the outbreak as Joel, surviving his background story of being a raider, joining clans, working with his brother and so on. Up till he meets Ellie.
I found part 2 really hard to take. After the cutscene with Joel and being left with a character full of revenge but nothing else. It became stale quickly and I wanted the ride over and done with around the 20 hour mark.
I don't think I could be as interested in part 3 if it's going to be more the same from part 2. I don't know why they felt it was a good idea to do that to Joel, when he was such a strong character.
Druckman fanfiction: Part 2
Looking forward to it, the remaster, and the "remake" soon after.
Let Ellies story be finished. I really would a prequel where they tell us what happened with Joel and Tommy.
I'm still open for more Ellie, just not as the main character. I hope her adventuring is done.
Yeah let Joel's son be born, and Somehow ellie finds him and has take care of him. Take risk for him Like Joel did.. Smh. Still hurts just even typing his name
This is why Sony can't move past IP's they are stuck on .. its because people enabling it and not asking for NEW IP
Dude, people have been asking for years.
Ever since Naughty Dog went with cinematic 3rd person action games, I feel it was set in stone.
People want a Jack and Daxter remake/reboot, we get a "remake" of the Last of Us and a loose announcement of a 3rd game.
We've been hearing about some new IP in the works for years now with not a sliver of real evidence showing its existence.
Hell, we haven't even got factions yet lol.
I would love to see Naughty Dog do something outside the norm for the first time since the original Uncharted released, but I don't think that's in the cards anytime soon.
Should have stopped after the first one. Which was a masterpiece. No need to release something you could be so proud of then tarnish it with greed and poor management.
Definitely would love to see a 2nd sequel. It would be cool if Ellie was now a full grown adult and 15+ years have past. We play as her and another character similar to how they did it in Part 2, perhaps Ellie ends up becoming the antagonist.
Ideally they make a new IP first then come back to this, I wouldn't mind something new from Naughty Dog first That way you could also really feel that Ellie has aged with the time between the two games. Odd example but I felt like that passing of time really worked with Avengers IW > EG, the 1 year wait between the movies really made the plot's 5 years passing feel more believable. Having said that, Naughty Dog know what they're doing, I'll leave it to them.
Still don’t understand why they killed Joel off smh let us play as Joel again some how sh@@ lol what’s with devs killing off beloved characters
Naughty Dog's The Last of Us Part 3 will probably be the final chapter in Ellie and Joel's epic story. Here's what we hope to see.
After she lost everything she loved in TLOU2, I would like to see a healing process for her in TLOU3. I would like to see Ellie grudgingly taking care of a pupil and warming up to it (mirroring Joel). In the end become the source of a vaccine/antidote she was destined for since the beginning, like to save said pupil in exchange for her life.
Also I don't care if people come and say "bUt YoU cAn'T mAkE A vAcCiNe AgAiNsT sPoReS!!!1111", it's a post-apocalyptic science fiction videogame, not a scientific thesis.
I agree, I mean what else can be left? How it happens exactly remains to be seen but I'm pretty It's all coming down to whether Ellie dies or doesn't die. It would make sense if she has a reason to live, making her decision that much harder.
I have honestly lost interest in the franchise thanks to the direction of the sequel. Not my cup of tea at all. I'll stick to the original and just continue to pretend it was a one and done game.
I think Ellie sacrificing herself for a vaccine at the end would not only invalidate the first game's ending, but a huge part of TLOU 2 as well. Ellie's character arc deals with her learning that she doesn't have to be stuck with survivor's guilt forever, that her own life matters more than just being sacrificed to save mankind. Once she understood Joel's actions at the end of Part 2, she was finally able to let go of revenge and start anew.
If the next part ends with her sacrificing her life for a vaccine then the entirety of her character arc in the series would've been rendered meaningless.
@goldwyncq
TLOU 1 ending was not her decision, Joel quite literally called the shots there against her wishes. Joel never worked through his trauma of loosing Sara, which highly influenced his decision when Ellie starts to grow on him and is about to die (see Joel reactions to Ellie in the final act of Tess vs. Joel reaction in the final act of the game).
In TLOU 2 Ellie made it very clear in that she will never forgive him for that, but since she loves him she wants to try. It's an emancipation process from Joel in many ways. Joel still tried to make decisions for her behind her back, and he still was on her mind during her violent revenge she had to break out from.
Druckmann once said in an interview in terms of TLOU1 how far will go for love and for TLOU2 how far will you go to bring justice for those you love. So selfishness was not the message of the games, it was the cause.
@ ED-E
The entire series is about love. Ellie being saved by Joel was first and foremost an act of love. It might seem selfish if you're looking at it from the perspective of the greater good, but the games have always been about Joel and Ellie, not saving the world. Ellie exists more than just to provide a cure for the world, and that's something she had realized and made peace with by the end of the second game, giving her the strength to abandon revenge and start life anew again, just like what Joel wanted for her. She's not going to throw all of that away just because of a savior complex she already grew out of.
"If somehow the Lord gave me a second chance at that moment... I would do it all over again."
I want to see Ellie and Abby in a relationship for research purposes only.
Really though with how 2 played and ended I'd like to see a different story with different people.
I would like to see this franchise end. Tbh it should have never been a sequel to begin with
I'm just hoping for more best-in-class storytelling and gameplay, really. These guys are masters at their craft, so I've no doubt they'll bring some awesome new characters and ramp up the emotions all over again.
Actually, a PSVR2 option would be nice too. Clickers in VR... 'O'
You're crazy... Abby and Lev yeah. But Ellie? She's is The Last of Us. If you're going to remove her, then why even bother making the game.
I’d love to see Abby and Lev again, but if they aren’t in Part 3, I won’t be disappointed either, I loved the time with them that we were given. Ellie on the other hand, yes, I agree, She’s The Last of Us (at least as of now) I can’t imagine them doing a Part 3 and coming up with some random new character to try and bring in fans of the game for the 3rd game, that’d be rather ridiculous. I want to know what happened with Dina, the baby, Tommy, what Ellie decided to do with herself etc.
@ClayRules2012
My point isn't so much about Abby or Lev. Though I can see Abby being in it since she's probably working with the fireflies now. Remember her dad was a doctor for the fireflies and she was on her way to regroup with them before she was ambushed. I just hope her role in the game is small.
My real point is that Ellie "is" The Last of Us... Without her there's no point in making the game. That's why I think Foxtrot's opinion here is pretty crazy.
Yeah, I do get remember that, now that you mention it, and that makes total sense. I hope her role is smaller in the 3rd game (if she’s in fact in it) and Ellie takes center focus.
Ellie can’t get infected, as we know, but she’s also important to Tommy, Dina, the baby, and just others. I want to know where she’ll fit in in the world, her purpose and place for the 3rd game, what that’ll focus on, I’m intrigued to know. Without her, you don’t have a story to tell.
I would like to see Abby and Lev. Abby was such a badass to control and I would love to see what direction their lives take. Perhaps Naughty Dog could include Ellie in Jackson as the area gets over run with infected?
I actually found Abby’s part of the story way more interesting than Ellie’s straight revenge plot.
@IGiveHugs
What a difference name…that picture of Ronald too, goodness lol. It gave me a much needed laugh haha.
But yeah, I would like to see Abby and Lev again, great characters. But I wouldn’t be upset if we didn’t again. I do wonder where they’ve gone, what’s happened to them since Ellie spared Abby tho.
And I couldn’t agree more, Abby was badass to control, powerful, quick, regardless of her size, and her moves felt brutal, unforgiving, and oh so satisfying with each encounter. Did you prefer controlling her or Ellie, in terms of just the general combat overall?
I'd like to see abby atleast helping out Ellie in time of need, she owes her that atleast. Maybe fight together against a common enemy. Maybe even sacrifice her life for Ellie (sounds cliche i know)
She was the Last of Us, they both were and NaughtyDog decided to just ruin her in Part II
She was immune, a great story to explore but they just pushed it aside like was nothing and left her with nothing in the end
Another “ReVeNgE iS bAd” ending where she lets it go despite everyone she killed getting to her
@Clay
I preferred playing the Abby segments. Her story really shows how some people tried to work together to rebuild civilization. If they had a better leader they probably could have with all that military training at their disposal. Abby's combat fits the moment and is really, really immersive. She knows she's a badass and she also knows she's not invincible and it comes across in her actions and the story.
He has a vendetta over the tlou2. I can recall dozens, possibly hundreds, of comments from him whining about how much he hated the game.
@Vermin
How the f*** is that trolling 😂
I just want new characters and a new location
What the hell is wrong with that
Jesus this site man, honestly
Yeah I disliked 2 but adore the original, so the third game is a fresh start to get the fans back who were put off after Part II
Neil has said without Joel or Ellie there is no TLOU. Now that Joel is gone TLOU IS ELLIE
It has always been about those two. The rest is just a setting
Oh ok, that makes sense. I remember he’s replied to me before about The Last of Us Part 2 in the past, and I’ve seen him express his dislike on here in different articles.
But yeah, TLoU is Joel and Ellie’s story, and now Ellie’s taken it, and I can’t imagine anyone doing it, although a prequel with Joel and Tommy I’d personally love, in some way, that way you still play Joel, before the outbreak, younger, with Marlene, how her relationship with Tommy was, Joel’s friendship with Bill, just more of good ole Bill haha.
Lmao
Yeah he said that and it was bullshit
Remember the 7 years before Part II
“We love these characters”
“Part II is a Joel and Ellie story”
“They are the Last of Us”
“We are going to respect these characters”
And the second games story was basically everything against what he said
People expected Joel to die but like in the first 10 minutes in the most stupidest and out of character way. Then makes you play an unlikable character rather than just Ellie? Yeah really backs Neil up huh.
Playing devil’s advocate, but what if it’s still a shared universe, but with an expanded cast? Like Resident Evil, The Walking Dead. Protagonist paths may cross, but they don’t have to.
That would be perfect tlof part 2 game play with you character and no lgbt agenda would be a dream
The hilarious thing is if they do new characters and a new location you’d eat it the f*** up and it’ll be the best thing ever
So…yeah “hard pass”
I doubt it
By the way, here is a list of my top 10 most anticipated games. This is just my personal list, not saying this is how anyone else should think.
1. Final Fantasy VII: Remake Part 3
2. Final Fantasy VII: Rebirth
3. The Last of Us Part III
4. Final Fantasy XVI
5. Stellar Blade
6. The Legend of Heroes: Trails into Reverie
7. The Legend of Heroes: Kuro no Kiseki
8. The Legend of Heroes: Kuro no Kiseki II
9. Dead Island 2
10. Persona 6
As much as I'm looking forward to FF7 Rebirth, I have to think that the 3rd part will be even more important since it will be the finale. That's why it's #1 on my list. You can see I have The Last of Us Part 3 third on my list, even though it hasn't been announced, I had already assumed it's happening at some point.
Stellar Blade is at #5, I'm taking a chance there since it's a new IP and unproven but like I've said before, the game has made that big of an impression on me. I'm also talking a huge chance with Dead Island 2, it's because I really like zombies but I was also really hyped for Back 4 Blood and Dying Light 2 and neither of those games were that good. So I hope Dead Island 2 will be different.
What else can I say? I'm a huge fan of The Legend of Heroes, very underrated series in my opinion. And Persona 6 I'm sure is coming eventually. I'm a big JRPG fan obviously.
Nah, I couldn't think of a better place to share this than on a Last of Us 3 thread. It's on my list and it's an unannounced game itself, Last of Us 3 hasn't been announced so it's not like we're not all thinking forward.
Plus it's the Last of US 3, my biggest franchise, only the Final Fantasy 7 Remake is ahead of it right now.
I was hoping that by sharing this I would find people will similar interests, since I assume we're Last of Us fans. But oh well...
Some great games there! I personally hope there is never a TLoU Part 3, I always hoped the original would stay a one off. Final Fantasy I agree with you though 💯
What they should do is a prequel. After playing the remake I really want to see the dark side of Joel in the start of infection after is daughter died. The way he talks and is brother it's scary stuff
I think what will happen is the fireflies will find out from Abby that Ellie is still alive and they will go after her. Abby will eventually feel remorse (since Ellie spared her life) for giving away Ellies location and help her get away or defend herself from them.
🤷♂️ id also love if they made the whole campaign gameplay just Ellie this time. I feel like all the cool parts were played as Abby.
I feel like with the show coming out and a stand alone multiplayer a part 3 is inevitable. I can’t wait
Well, story in 1 was good, game play sucked. Gameplay in 2 was OK, story was bad. So how about nailing both?
When did you play the first game? Also, I’m shocked that you think the gameplay sucked. How so? Also, to say the gameplay in Part 2 was “OK” I mean, that’s better than sucked lol, but just ok… you’re entitled to having an opinion, of course, to just hear someone say the gameplay in the first game sucked, I wanna hear exactly how so, in detail, if you don’t mind explaining. I won’t even ask about your view on the story for Part 2, because so many have expressed their opinions on it, some have fair and understandable reasons for not having liked it, others just hate to hate (with the bandwagon of haters from the leaks) and didn’t even bother playing the game…not saying that’s you, I don’t know. But could you explain how the gameplay in Part 2 was just OK?
That blows my mind, genuinely, because while many don’t like the story in Part 2 (which is fine) they acknowledge the fantastic and fluid gameplay, and how the intelligent Ai system mixed with the motion matching tech on display really brings a dynamic, brutal, intense, fun (and depending on how you approach gameplay) fast and on the edge of your seat gameplay experience!
Gameplay in one was boring, and that's not really an out there opinion. It's pretty easy to find people that say "amazing game, loved it, great story... Sure the gameplay was a little dull but..."
OK probably wasn't the right word for 2. It was fun/good.
I'd like to see it done like The Godfather part II.
The continuation of Ellie's story and interlacing prequel sections that show Joel before the 20 years later.
The back and forth would draw parallels between Ellie's continuous slide to darkness and Joel's questionable past when he was on both sides, and then ultimately both getting some sort of redemption.
Ellie and Joel?
What am I missing here because the last I saw the two became one.
Ellie will be trying to find her estranged wife and child for sure. Gotta get that old thing back. 😂
Don't really know but one thing's for sure, it's gonna look amazing. That ICE team @ND is extremely talented. Top tier.
after playing part 1 on PS5, so excited for part 3. I don't care what story will it may be, I know it will be epic. I hope they will announce it next year with teaser then release as early as holiday 2024(if they can).
For TLOU3 I have less ideas but I’d love to see a prequel with Tommy in the Fireflies and Joel & Tess doing crazy shit .
I assume 3 would have to do with the vaccine but it could go so many ways .
She hunts down Abby and kills her violently, like 10 times. I would buy it for 100$
New characters and a new story with a new location. The Last of Us has plenty of opportunity to expand.
The main motive of the first episode was LOVE, the second episode was HATE, so the third (and final) episode should be about REDEMPTION.
Ellie and Abby meet again at the age of 40, but this time Ellie sacrifices herself for the cure, and Abby (or " little potato" baby) becomes the leader of humanity's new rise. Or something like that, I guess.
I still haven't played tlou2... The first game is a masterpiece and it did not need or call for a sequel. I preferred to keep it like that rather than lower my opinion on the series by playing sequels that are after money rather than substance.
Or you can play it and have an informed opinion and decide for yourself if you like it or not. It’s just a game.
No leaks spoiling story points, I'll be honest, the leaks made me not play the Last of us 2. Glad I gave it another go after all the controversy, don't think it was a perfect game like some, but an easy 8/10 at least, really enjoyable.
Between TLOU & TLOU2 I have close to 300 hours of play time, as they are among my all-time favorite games, so I will be happy with damn near anything ND comes up with I am sure of. My quick thought about 3 is I would like to see Ellie and Abby actually working together in the next game or something like that, but like I said I will be fine with whatever they come up with, as I love the first game and the second game they completely blew me away as it exceeded the original in damn near every category as my tastes go.
TLOU 2 story was one of the most incoherent garbage narratives ive ever experienced. Felt like a high school kids shlocky essay. Im good on a third one.
A change in character hopefully, tired of hearing "this game is this character" excuse. New characters, new experiences and stories. A bit more focus on world building with more infected, that was seriously lacking in part 2. Hopefully they build off of what Tommy said about the infected hordes migrating. Also stop this whole "subverting expectations" bs, it usually just means making everything worse.
What do I hope to see? Abby and Lev die in the most brutal horrific way possible.
Bring back Straley so that he can do what he clearly did when ND was developing the original: putting a leash on Druckmann.
First mission resurrect Joel from the funeral/ grave facility lmao just playin tho would be dope but hopefully we get something fresh again I’m sure naughty dog will show these other devs how it’s done with pushing console hardware again and even make linear experience with interactive things it a lot of devs should take notes from them on how to
The only change I want to see is ND make a Savage starlight game and in the game create a time mechanic and in the game it creates a time explosion that wipes out all the story of TLOU2.
I still would want Ellie’s worldview to reflect Joel in a way that displays his impact and reminds the player where it all started. You can’t just ignore that as if none of it happened. And I know ND being the epic storytellers that they are, would not miss this.
"Another pervasive criticism of Part II’s story remains the uneven pacing."
I have yet to see anyone count the story beats and compare it to another story which they think has good pacing.
"simplistic transformation"
How was Abby's transformation simplistic?
"Focus on a smaller cast"
Since there are no emergent NPCs, they need Manny et al. to make the world feel lived in.
"More creative weapons"
This would make the game look stupid.
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The rest I can sign up for.
Not much they can do. I'm actually worried that there's even a 3rd part. How much will Neil destroy the IP before putting it down.
Just hope they try and set the graphical benchmark for the generation like they did with part 2. ND knows story I can't wait to see what narrative they create.
Nope they first need to make savage starlight and have timetravel , let a major timeline crash happen and erase TLOU2's timeline or that one part and make a quarter of 3 a retelling of what really happened to J. Perfect start for 3