Sounds Like The PS5 Pro Is Releasing At The Worst Possible Time

Screen Rant writes, "It looks like fans won't have to wait too long for a PS5 Pro, but the reported release window doesn't seem optimal for a number of reasons."

[Jin_Sakai]

It’s releasing right around GTA6 time. They’re banking on that over first party releases I suppose.

[porkChop]

That's actually not a smart bet, historically. Pretty much every Rockstar game gets delayed, at least once. Releasing a new console with no new first party titles and hedging your bets on a 3rd party that will in all likelihood be delayed? That's some kind of strategy, I guess.

[Extermin8or3_]

why are we assuming no new first party titles? All they have said is they have no releases in major EXISTING franchises before March 2025. That doesn't mean no new first party titles. Half of sony's first party have been working on new IP for a few years now.

[seanpitt23]

I think they will announce it for April/may 2025 and will be inevitably pushed back to September 2025 I can't see it being pushed further to 2026 as they announced it when the game is nearly complete

[Kiryu1992]

Exterm

That’s what I don’t understand also. They just keep saying no first party games and that’s not what Sony said at all. They can launch few new IP’s and most likely will

They already have had 3 console exclusives that have been received really well by fans and critics

[shinoff2183]

Idk about this one. We've waited over 10 years. I feel they've been putting in the work so this doesn't happen. I'm sure it's been more but off the top I can only remember 4 being delayed from spring to fall or something. Like I said theres probably more but I can't recall

[KwietStorm_BLM]

GTA comes out next year

[Jin_Sakai]

“GTA comes out next year“

Yes but PS5 Pro will have time to sell and get into people’s hands before GTA6 releases in 2025. Assuming it doesn’t get delayed.

[Redgrave]

Imagine sony somehow bags a gta6 bundle for the pro

Game, set, match

[GamerRN]

Yeah I honestly think the timing for this is perfect! If the next X isn't out yet, they will have the best version of GTA6 which will sell TONS of units.... Great timing...

[crazyCoconuts]

If a pro really is coming out soon, maybe that explains why the studios have been so quiet... Because they've been working on Pro versions of all the already released games? I get that higher res and frame rate don't take a lot of effort, but that's not going to wow people watching a trailer over YouTube. Maybe they're like adding more detail or something

[Vits]

Probably the weakest generation so far. Cool features, good enough hardware, very few games. And a PS5 Pro will not help with that.

[KyRo]

This generation so far has been massively underwhelming and is widely accepted as that so far by alot of people. I've had both consoles from launch and I'm still waiting for games to look as good as Rachet and Clank and The Matrix demo.

The lack of true next generation exclusives and a whole heap of remakes, still makes it feel like the generation has barely started several years in.

[DarXyde]

Generation isn't over and I prefer to show a bit of grace in that regard, but I also feel this has been the worst generation since taking up the hobby. So far, anyway. It's possible a wave of games comes after GTAVI, but I'm not overly hopeful.

[Rynxie]

They're not taking advantage of the hardware, whether it's graphically or how much they can add or do. If you look at the PS3, it was all about massive online multiplayer and beautiful graphics. Besides battlefield 2042 (which doesn't work for me, no matter what I do), we're stuck with 6vs6 multiplayer. Even the game modes in fps games feel lackluster. Besides VR and Sophie (both of which that came later) gt7 felt lackluster to me. Another example would be helldivers 2. Besides being a starship troopers: extermination rip-off, It's a four player co-op. Yet, on pc, starship troopers is a 16 player co-op. And, keep in mind, the developers working on starship troopers are a very small studio and don't have the backing of Sony or another big name publisher.

[outsider1624]

I don't understand either. I remember Mark Cery saying something along the lines that with the ssd, graphical power etc etc that development of games will also be quicker.

[EvertonFC]

Several years in ? We're in the 4th but I get some of your points.

[Barlos]

Completely agree. For me the best thing about this generation of hardware is the DualSense. For me it's one of the best controllers ever made. But yeah in terms of true next gen releases, it's been a big downer for the most part. We just can't shake off the last gen.

[Psychonaut85]

Yeah on point with the Ratchet & Clank thing. Not just graphically but in terms of taking advantage of the SSD. I’d hoped to see more creative uses of the fast loading by now instead of it just being a quality of life improvement.

[shinoff2183]

3, 4 years. Is that several. I guess I could be but stuff is coming.

[Jin_Sakai]

“Probably the weakest generation so far. Cool features, good enough hardware, very few games. And a PS5 Pro will not help with that.“

PS5 Pro also makes other games perform and look better not just new games. It’s just and option and nothing more. But I agree that this generation has been weak and underwhelming as far as games go.

[shinoff2183]

How long did it take for ps3 to actually get some heavy hitters.

[SonyStyled]

@shinoff It took half a year. Tools of Destruction came out summer 2007, first ‘heavy hitter’ only on PS3. MGS4 the next year, GoW3 and KZ2 in 2009.

I’m excluding IPs that began on PS3

[Neonridr]

we've only begun to scratch the surface of the PS5 though. Considering 75% of their "exclusive" games also released on the PS4, it wasn't really a strong indicator of what we'd see for some of the big hitters being built from the ground up on PS5.

Personally I feel a Pro is rushed here, but Sony wants to make money, so I don't blame em.

[Vits]

The problem is that scratching the surface is taking way too long. By November, the PS5 will be four years old, using the previous gen as a ruler that means it's already halfway through its life until the PS6 comes out. So unless Sony plans to do what they did with the PS4 and bring over most PS6 exclusives to the PS5, they have just over 3 years to ensure the PS5 has a good lineup of exclusives and games.

And there's nothing on the horizon to suggest that's happening. If anything, the release plans for mid-2024 and beyond seem very thin.

[Neonridr]

@Vits - Covid obvsiouly screwed everything up as it slowed down everything. Development of games was hampered, console manufacturing was slowed, some people only finally got a PS5 last year for example. So I get the timeline, but everything feels like it was pushed from the beginning, so trying to stick to a standard console cycle given the initial hurdles seems silly.

[neomahi]

Agreed, and I'm a HUGE PlayStation fan. I loved the PS3 while everyone else played on their breaking Xbox 360 consoles, I never senty PS3 in to fix it, but I have no clue why I need a PS5

[PhillyDonJawn]

Right, the jump just wasn't big enough to and it got off to a slow start. I'd rather Sony drop ps6 in 2026 @$600-700 with a big power jump. Ps5 is powerful enough to play game at a lower setting like what Series S is to Series X. while ps6 would give us a true next gen jump.

[fr0sty]

I wouldn't expect gen10 until late 27 or 28.

[ChasterMies]

You couldn’t be more wrong about there being “very few games”. My backlog is only increasing because of the number of new games that I don’t have time to play.

[shinoff2183]

That's what I'm saying. Wtf are people not playing. THeres so much sh. The ps3 was much worse in terms of games unless your into online shooters, and shooters. Variety dropped off alot during this Gen. Indies have brought back variety in a huge way.

[isarai]

Seriously, not to say it hasn't been fun, but it never really seemed to hit that wow factor every other generation has had despite being a far bigger leap in capabilities than last gen was. Especially when it comes to 1st party. Almost everything just feels like a remaster of a ps4 game and I KNOW they can be so much more as a few games have shown, but no one is really going for it.

[frostypants]

Most gen defining games come out towards the last couple of years of each cycle. We aren't there yet.

[shinoff2183]

What are you playing dog. There's so much variety out there and dope games. This crushes the ps3 Gen imo. Ps3 was same ol samey type games. That's when people stopped taking chances o. Something different so we got loaded with shooters. The lack of jrpgs was whack, jrpgs dropped off the map compared to other gens. I'm having a blast the last 4 years or so. Hell yakuza got popular so we're getting more.

Idk I just don't see the no games argument. Sure 1st party games I'll give you that. Sony usually rolls about 10 years a gen. We've been hearing aaa games are starting to take 5 6 years. It's our own fault to an extent. If a game comes out and it's not top notch graphics, etc people bitch and moan, and cry. Personally story and gameplay are much more important

[Ironmike]

It absolutely dose not crush ps3 quite a few remakes ps4 upgrades on most of the big name games this gem hasn't being g great the games are fantastic but there isn't one what has totally blow me way

[crazyCoconuts]

If it's really coming this holiday and Xbox doesn't have anything to answer, it'll be the final nail in the coffin. Won't look like bad timing for Sony.

[TicklefistCP]

Xbox doesn't factor into this.

[crazyCoconuts]

It does, big time.

[Kaii]

Why bother unless they've changed the rumored cpu?
Cause if it's the same as PS5 it'll still run GTA at 30fps lmao
This comment hit it for me, "One comment says it's a 1.6x jump on paper, whereas the PS4 Pro was more like a 2.2x"

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Did they factor in the jump from PS4 to PS5? Also the CPU won't be the issue for GTA. The GPU would. And if it has the rumored AI upscaling tech, the frame rate won't be a problem because it's not raw horsepower.

[Eonjay]

That statement doesn't make sense. PS5 equivalent CPUs on PC can high frammerates in many circumstances. There are several games running 120 FPS on base PS5. If the spec comes true this would be the highest clocked RDNA 2 CPU release. Ever. It will be just fine. 60 FPS GTA 6 is a certainty on the PRO. Book it.

[Mulando]

The jumps get smaller. The visual difference even smaller.
I would prefer a really smaller PS5. That should be possible as AMD already offers mobile APUs with much horsepower. So a smaller PS5 should also be possible. The current is just to big.

[Extermin8or3_]

literally released last year, where you been?

[Extermin8or3_]

ths ps5 cpu isn't a bottleneck in the way a ps4 cpu was, so no that isn't the case.

[ChasterMies]

What does the CPU have to do with GTA V frame rates?

Last gen was the first time we saw a mid-cycle upgrade and the bump in power was in the GPU and not the CPU. Compatibility needs to be 100%.

"One comment says it's a 1.6x jump on paper, whereas the PS4 Pro was more like a 2.2x" Don’t waste your time with rumors. But if true, not unexpected. We are working at 4k resolutions now and that means higher frame rates are that much harder to achieve.

Overall I don’t recommend a mid-cycle upgrade. By the time the PS6 launches, you won’t get much value out of a PS5 Pro. Save your pennies.

[andy85]

Halfway through the gen about? Seems fine to me. And the quote "releasing one year after the Slim will run into pricing and marketing problems"....did they forget that the PS4 Pro released only 2 months after the PS4 Slim? Blatantly obviously there will be a price cut next year. I mean it's already just dropped from £479 to £409 or less in the UK at the moment.

[purple101]

I feel they are capitalising on the fact it’s half term break in the UK. Smart move

But yeh I’m deffo getting a pro. PlayStations have provided me with hours of fun and are practically the biggest bargain out there if you divide cost by hours played
You’re actually getting a good deal.

I’m not even that hard core!!
Mostly just play gran turismo 7 and cod-
Even I think it’s great value!

Deffo getting a pro for gta6! No doubt

[badboyz09]

Borderlands 4

[Ironmike]

It be the same chip as ps5 they totally release a different system as it won't be compatible with ps5 so it definitely be zen 2

[gold_drake]

i think before gta 6 and their probable marketing around it is actually really smart. haha.

[BrainSyphoned]

It is before Monster Hunter Wilds so I can get a pro for it. Then the og ps5 will have time to devalue so I can pick up two more to multiplayer MHWilds with my kids. Best timing ever.

[Magatsuhi]

All these people claiming ps5 hasn't had a good generation so far get ignored the fact xbox has had a near non existent one. I wonder how they have survived? Lol.

[TheCaptainKuchiki]

Bundling with GTA 6 is literally the BEST release time ever? Whoever wrote that headline is ignorant.

[phoenixwing]

I wasn't tempted to buy a ps5 pro until I realized gta6 was releasing only on consoles first. So for years ps5 pro will be the definitive way to play it.

[anast]

I got my PS4 out the other day and the experience was night and day. I mean the PS5 is a different machine. A souped-up PS4 would be the PS4 pro, which the PS5 puts it on Gameboy status; unless "these people" we are talking about enjoy games on low settings and so on.

Sony has released more than 4 games.

I agree with the slim not having time to breath.

[Aloymetal]

I just want Sony to make an official announcement because the moment they do I'm pre ordering that PS5 Pro.
So I really hope/wish al these Pro rumors are true.

[anast]

For sure

[CrimsonWing69]

I’m just going to wait for the PS6. I really can’t see any reason to buy this unless you don’t have a PS5 at this point.

[neomahi]

There shouldn't even be a PS5 Pro. We haven't even had three years to justify why the PS5 has earned its place, everything still runs on a PS4 and PS4 Pro. I'm not even convinced as to why we need a PS5 yet. I knew why I needed a PS2. Then a PS3. Then a PS3. But, I'm not certain why I needed a PS5. Some faster load times, that's it?

[PhillyDonJawn]

Do anyone plan on upgrading? I feel the generation jumps just aren't that significant anymore.

[YourMommySpoils]

I'm keeping my OG PS5 forever. Just looks so nice. I made the mistake trading my PS4 to PS4 Pro, that I regretted it, but then I traded it for a PS5 and was happy with that offer. Will skip to get a PS6.

[shinoff2183]

I'll get a pro and put my Lil buddy in the closest until firmware things get it to where I need it.

[jznrpg]

If it releases this holiday I think it’s great timing. Wolverine, GTA6 (which I don’t care much about but maybe I’ll play my first gta game this gen) and all the first party stuff for the end of the generation. Next year I think is too late so this holiday is the sweet spot for me.

[mastershredder]

For you. Nice Self-serving article there, center of the universe.

[RhinoGamer88]

The Pro is what the base PS5 should have been. We all need to be prudent with the 6, Sony is talented at overselling and underdelivering on hardware.

[shinoff2183]

Are they, ps3 being hard to develop for was the most powerful at the time, ps4 same I believe. Series x is said to be more powerful then ps5 but you can't see it in game comparisons.

Ps1 and ps2 I'll give you the power argument but they were still great.

[TheTony316]

With GTA6 and Microsoft going third party, it's the best possible time.

[derek]

Worst time for yall. I'll be there day zero.

[Dandizzle]

lol screenrant, this is the place news to be shared comes from?

[HyperMoused]

After xboxs games coming to PS i plan to get one, defecting to the other side, see what this ...play....s...station...is all about

[Ra3030]

Saying "The PS5 Pro Is Releasing At The Worst Possible Time" is based on what? I think Sony has proven over, and over, and over, and over again that they know the business and what they're doing and they done this time and time again and so what maybe its true Sony maybe or may not be releasing First Party games in the next 12 months but that certainly doesn't mean they won't have games as they just released HellDivers2 and FF Rebirth will release next week Ronan releases next month and these 3 game if you are a console gamer and want to put them on console you have only 1 option. Sony also will release MLB The Show in a month and in June they'll release the Destiny add on and not to mention Microsoft is desperately trying to get its games on the PlayStation platform where the gamers that own that console may actually buy those games. So to say Sony has some issue is just some clown showing they have no clue to what their talking about.
Also it could be pointed out the PS5 PRO is being released for GTA6 and will be marketed as "THE" place to play it.....All that said the new PS5 PRO is a must have Day One purchase at least for me.

[SonOfOsiris]

This is doa, rip Sony