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Gamezine: If Microsoft pay, we'll write another "Sony's Doomed" article

Gamezine:

"Ever since NPD released November's console sales, journalists and bloggers have brought their hammer down on Sony.

The question is why? Do you agree with their campaign and do you want more?

Last year we reported on the fact that sales of the PlayStation 3 in November were actually down compared to the same time in 2007. This was despite a month on month growth for the console in both the United States and worldwide.

You might have pointed towards the economic climate, but when compared to both Microsoft's Xbox 360 and Nintento's Wii, whose sales were up, Sony didn't appear to have a legitimate excuse.

O.K., it's reasonable to question Sony on this. Why are sales down in the U.S. in November? What actually happened in the media was worse."

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Pennywise5598d ago

Exactly why most people who pay attention think the gamer journalists are a joke.

Its just like me or you writing our opinions. We probably know more about games than them... only difference is we do it because we love it and they get a paycheck.

rucky5598d ago

Sadly the media still do influence and affect a person who's not up to date with the gaming industry.

I don't really understand why all these people want Sony to fail so much. Do they want blu ray to fail so we can move on to dd? Cause in all honesty the media wasn't like this when HD-DVD was still around. So what, did they all banked against Sony? Do they trust Microsoft when they said DD was the future?

I have no doubt that the media is biased against the Playstation but no one will know their true agenda but themselves.

TheTwelve5598d ago (Edited 5598d ago )

Most of these writings are from American writers. America is the home country of one of the richest organization in the history of mankind, Microsoft.

Don't see the connection?

I'm a patriotic American, but I'm not blind to how money can work in this country to influence media towards one agenda.

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prunchess5598d ago

How many of these gaming journalists are America? Is the 360 supposedly an American console? The yanks haven't produced a decent console since...well ever really. So they are rabidly trying to spin the 360 as a success. Only in the US would a consumer\ frat boy\ child buy a shoddy and faulty piece of hardware and then spend the next few years screaming how great it is while they sneak away and replace their console 4 or 5 times!

These are the same people that are writing such laughable articles like the PS3 is dead etc. The PS3 has 20 million WORKING consoles out there versus microsoft's dubious 28 million (working and broke?).

With two class action law suits in the works against microsoft's 360(scratching disc and RROD) the only thing that needs saving is microsoft's face.

American journalists are doing their very best to help save this face.

FantasyStar5598d ago

12, you need to play Far Cry 2. Period.

Aaron Greenterd5598d ago

Wow my Media Outreach Campaign linK™ (MOCK)is really falling apart. I mean, media outlets are basically admitting their ties to me, just so there isn't a revolt among the readership.

I read this as a blatant attempt to extort more money from me from this blogger. He's gonna have to take out a 2nd mortgage to pay for his Live access from now on...

wil4hire5598d ago

Reliable Hardware, Powerful, XBLA.

The XBOX1 nickel and dimed people just as bad, but I didn't care because the content was good/hardware was good. I remember paying extra $ to buy a remote so I could use my DVD player that came with the Xbox.. hehe. And I didn't care.

pippoppow5598d ago

Dear Mr. Greenturd

Your Live Service is worth a second mortgage and more. Why you do not charge more for a service that is similar but superior than any other service out there is beyond me. The price has fallen recently for XBL and ask that it go up instead. I mean paying for a service that never was charged for before was a brilliant idea. I only hope the next gen you charge even more.

Your Devoted Fan
Pippoppow

ThatArtGuy5598d ago

The Atari, Odessey, Colecovision, Intellivision say "Hi." The gaming business was American led until the 80's.

prunchess5598d ago

I couldn't agree or disagree with you on that. My contact with the original xbox was very limited (I had a lend of one for a weekend or two) I do remember that it wouldn't play DVDs straight out of the box; you had to buy an add on or something. I found the graphics very PC like. (playing a Riddick game. can't remember the games full name though)

I didn't play online with it. I regret that.

prunchess5597d ago

Yeah, I know where your coming from, it's just those consoles never really did it for me. Far too basic. It's a bit like discussing calculators and insisting that an Abacus is a calculator too.

Atari did produce one of my favourite gaming machines though, the Atari ST. Between it and the Commodore Amiga, they had gaming sewn up for a few years. Top notch machines!

Check out an emulator for either of those machines, download a few ROMS ("cinemawares 'Wings'" or 'Cannon Fodder) you'll see what I mean.

soxfan20055597d ago

Making sweeping indictments of American journalists without a shred of evidence or proof is hardly patriotic. American journalists do not defend American products blindly. Read some car magazines, and notice the reviews of Honda, Toyota, etc. vs. American cars. Insulting your country just because your console of choice is behind the competetion is reprehensible.

SaiyanFury5597d ago

@Pennywise

Agreed, 100%. I don't think I could've said it better myself, well said sir.

ambientFLIER5597d ago

"The yanks haven't produced a decent console since...well ever really."

Original Xbox says hello... The fact that you haven't really used one means that you are NOT allowed to say stupid things like that. Generally, when I make statements like those, I try to know what I'm talking about.

Also, the original xbox would play dvd's, it just needed a remote OR a special save file (free) on a memory card in order to control the movie with the controller.

captainjy5597d ago

Selling nearly 30 million units isn't spinning anything. Sony got caught in their own Bluray failure and there's no one to blame but Sony. It's funny how the PS3 supporters will try to use anything to justify why their console is not doing well when simply people just don't want one and would rather have a 360 or a Wii or both. Bluray just isn't selling consoles and that's a fact.

prunchess5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

"Original Xbox says hello..." And it said goodbye just as quick.

MS stopped supporting it just as I started losing interest in gaming on my PC and the PS2 was going from strength to strength. I was hardly going to run out and buy a console that the company, that was producing them, had lost faith in. Did you?

As for the little use I had of the original xbox, it's probably one of the few consoles that I haven't owned. I feel that I am more than qualified to say what I want having worked in the trade since Sinclair released the ZX81 (@1981/82) until 2004. If the original xbox was so great, I'd have noticed.

@captainjy - Man oh man the number of 360's sold goes up in millions day by day on N4G! It'll be 40 million by tomorrow.

Patience mate! You'll be a Blu Ray owner some day. (When you get sick of waiting on your DD)

Send gamezine.co.uk a few quid and they'll write you an article that'll cheer you up!

ambientFLIER5597d ago

Support of the console doesn't matter. The point is that they are fully capable of building good hardware.

cjflora5597d ago

The media in general is a joke. I was watching the news one day where they had a story about an earthquake that killed peopled, and then followed that story up with what Britney Spears was seen doing that day in LA. I mean, really? Those two qualify as remotely similar? It's ridiculous...whatever gets hits and viewers these days is what's news.

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butterfinger5598d ago

I was really impressed with this article. The author did a great job of pointing out the absurdities in the "Sony/PS3 is doomed!" articles through his own words and those of other [read: rant]. I agree that it is absurd to believe that MS is outright paying for these articles directly, but they really do seem to be the main beneficiary (even Nintendo is usually left out on the internets). It is sadly unfair to Sony for this to be going on, but the best they can do is to keep chugging along and trying to pick up steam with great exclusives, features, and advertising. To me, the PS3 still has the most room to grow out of the big 3, and I would expect we will be seeing this growth over the next 2-5 years.

techie5598d ago

Pretty great summary if I do say so... ;) Didn't know there were so many Sony's doomed articles

kewlkat0075598d ago (Edited 5598d ago )

Who would of thought Sony needed saving....not me.
People write this stuff up and everyone eats it up.

Whenever we see articles, such as:

"This is Sony's Year",
"This is why Sony will win (Insert Year)"
"This (Insert Game) will kill off the competition."
"This (Insert Game) is death to (Insert competitors console here)"

Everyone rejoice and we see Gamelist list all over the place. Again, the same type of articles that feed trolls and get fanboys amped up, about the justification for thier purchase, are them same articles that would suggest, Sony PS3/PSP must need saving. As if, Sony must win soemthing to make it fanbase feel good.

At the end of the day it's all opinions on games, while the real business makers care about the numbers.

POGfinder5598d ago

However PS3 still went on to outsell x360 in europe and Japan

In USA it is different since it is in deep recession . a ps3 costs 2x as much as x360 if u are unaware.

So in future SONy can play with price cuts. same cant be said for x360 --already at 160$ in many places

GLobally 2008 was still SONY's year

Even if PS3 does a 700k in december (likely 800k) it will be termed good in terms of recession since not everyone can afford a 400$/500$ console

mint royale5598d ago

'However PS3 still went on to outsell x360 in europe and Japan'

-Japan yes but in Europe you'd have to call the sales even this year.

'In USA it is different since it is in deep recession . a ps3 costs 2x as much as x360 if u are unaware.'

- I'm sure many are unaware but you are unaware that it is not just the US in recession. It is a global recession so you can't blame the ps3's poor sales in America on the recession.

'So in future SONy can play with price cuts. same cant be said for x360 --already at 160$ in many places'

-Please tell me where xbox's are that cheap! Yes sony can play around with prices but so can MS. They are already at a mass market price and any more price cuts they make will make the 360 more affordable to more people than a price cut for the ps3 will be. Of course both are trumped by nintendo here who could half the price of the wii and still make a profit.

'GLobally 2008 was still SONY's year.'

- Games? Thats an opinion. Sales? No they were in 3rd. Although it was very close with MS for 2nd - sony did brilliantly at the start of the year.

'Even if PS3 does a 700k in december (likely 800k) it will be termed good in terms of recession since not everyone can afford a 400$/500$ console'

-true it could do 800K which would be good. However comparisons to the competition may look abit ugly in the next NPD.

The Lazy One5597d ago

about the price cuts, M$ probably won't cut price, but it will add value.

You might not see the price of the 360 drop to $150 or less, but you'll start to see hard drives included in all models, more games included in bundles, hardware revisions, etc. that will up the value of the console. Sony's still stuck very much in a responsive position to the things microsoft does.

UnwanteDreamz5597d ago

I might agree with that but adding value to the XBOX 360, like hard a built in hard drive, seems kind of responsive dont you think? What about the NXE avatars? How about the changing of major titles release dates to fall in line with the Killzone 2 release.

Who is in a responsive position again?

The Lazy One5597d ago

pricepoint responsive is different. Microsoft is in the commanding spot for pricepoint. Its sales aren't especially threatened by the PS3's, and the 360 is being sold with higher profit per console than PS3s.

It's not about who responds, it's about who has the most options. Consider it like chess. Someone might be on the offensive, but the game is ultimately about board control, and whoever controls the board controls the game.

Microsoft might not be on the offensive, but it's definitely better off when it comes to board control.

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Rip-Ridah5598d ago

I wonder what the headlines will read then. I honestly could care one way or the other; however, I personally believe that the PS3 by far DESERVES to outsell the 360 10-fold. We see no articles from these big companies regarding the innovation, dedication, and most importantly IMPROVEMENT that the PS3 has made since its inception into this generation of consoles. No console is without its faults...hell NOTHING is without its faults. (Only that lizard with the funny collar around its neck can walk on water these days). My point is that Sony as a company has humbled themselves by attempting to gain the respect of gamers and they are being spat in the face by many journalists. Fortunately, Sony is used to overcoming this biased obstacle. GAME ON!!

Zackstorm5597d ago

Humble? Sony is one of the most arrogant gaming companies ever. They have a history for actually stirring up fanboyism, or talking trash about competitors when the other companies usually stay out of it.

Sony's a lot of things, but they're not humble.

I loved my PS1 and PS2, and I hope that in a couple years I'll love a PS3 too, so this isn't a notch taken from the PS3 specifically, I'm just amazed to see Sony be referred to as humble lol.

captainjy5597d ago

Sony doesn't deserve it because they haven't earned it. MS started with the community and worked it's way up. One of the smartest things that they did was put a face on their console with Major Nelson.

TheTwelve5598d ago

...it all comes down to either Microsoft having writers working for them or bootleg sites trying to get traffic. That's IT.

There is absolutely no logical reason for people to say Sony is going down, no reason that cannot also be used for the 360.

Microsoft's headstart, over-advertising, 3rd party buy-outs and corrupt writing staff won't stop the Sony train.

Watch and see.

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soxfan20055597d ago

Funny how anti-Sony articles are "corrupt", while anti-MS articles are "intelligent".

The Lazy One5597d ago

an intelligent summary is more similar. The did very little to rebut the claims made by the other articles.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 20h ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow1d 9h ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo18213h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie4h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

Notellin22m ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

OtterX16h ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Tody_za16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno15h ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno13h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

fsfsxii11m ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

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Basically...Grand Theft Auto

Cultured Vultures: Ahead of the launch of GTA 6, we put together everything you need to know about Grand Theft Auto: the biggest entertainment property in the world minus the one with Sudowoodo in it.

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Interview on Fallout 4 with the Actor for Nick Valentine, Codsworth & Mr Handy (Stephen Russell)

Interview with Stephen Russell, Actor for (Nick Valentine, Codsworth, My Handy) in Fallout 4 which is a vast open world role playing game set in the apocalyptic wastes of Boston, the Commonwealth. The career goes further with other Bethesda games from Starfield to Prey to The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.

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