Microsoft will rely on its Xbox 360 game console for longer than the previous version because it's getting harder to persuade consumers to upgrade, the head of the company's entertainment unit said.
This is good news! I hope this generation lasts as long as the DEVs can squizze some more power into making better games. As long as games keep coming for our current hardware, ill be happy! However, in a comment that I know will get me tons of disagrees, after the RROD issues, Microsoft has hurt the day one buyers! After so many issues with the X360 even 3 years after launch, consumers trust is now dented and in need to be reastablished! They have to trust the product in order to trust the brand. Microsoft still needs to get the RROD image out of consumers mind! They need to WIN this ´´console war`` and get on the market with a reliable piece of hardware!
they shouldnt release a new console anytime soon. as i dont belive they have maxed out what the 360 is capable of. same goes for all the consoles this generationi wish they support all consoles for as long as possible maybe in about 5 years then i would be ready for another console.
:) -For breakfast.
I think it's good that MS is saying this, they are trying to communicate to people sitting on the fence that the 360 won't be dropped like the original Xbox was. Microsoft should be trying to maximize profits (obviously the price of the pro, elite, accessories, and live show this), but the question is does the Xbox line of products end in 2012? In 3-4 years, Microsoft is going to face a tough decision, whether or not to produce another console. The problem is, they need to start R&D right now in order to accomplish this. My theory is Microsoft will team with EA for the next console. With Microsoft's shooters + some other games and EA's sports games, they might have something that can finally compete with Sony. I also think it's going to be funny when people start seeing the Wii for what it is, Nintendo won't be able to compete with the amount of used Wii consoles on eBay, in Gamestop, etc...used Wii's are going to be everywhere.
dont do it. you will lose customers that already invested a good chunk of money for your system. just ride it out and learn from your experience. Xbox will never be as good as the Playstation brand (i give the edge to Xbox as their controller is best for shooters which appeals to a larger userbase in the US...i'm one of them) i just hate that MS does it more for THEIR liking....which is money (can't blame them its all bout the benjamins) but WE as the customers suffer for it. If the Playstation had an 'optional' controller specifically made for shooters then MS is toast. Sony is known to be a trusted brand...and that alone will keep the Playstation brand alive.
this is good. for ppl like me who just jump into this gen. its been a year today that i got a ps3. i know this is ms news but if ms doesn't throw a new one of then neither will sony. n hes right getting ppl to upgrade is hard.
sounds to me like MS and more specifically the xbox division are at a loss for how to compete with Sony and the PS3. The Cell Broadband Engine has really thrown them for a loop as it is uncharted waters for the kings of compile and execute.
If I remember correctly their primary aim with the 360 was to gain larger share in the console market. I think being in 2nd place ahead of Sony this far into the console cycle was more than MS had dreamed of. Especially if you look back at Sony's domination with the PS2 last gen. If you would have said "I think the 360 will be ahead of the PS3 in 2009", back in 2006, people would have labeled you delusional/insane. I would have agreed with them.
Always playing it safe...
Wow this is so sad some many idiotic ps3 fanboy in this topic and it has nothing at all to do with the ps3. If you look at the top end pc games and compare them to the 360 you dont see a huge diffeernce. Sure the pc looks better but its not far enough a head that it makes 360 games look last gen. Look at the upgrade for the ps1 to the ps2 and the xobx1 to the 360. The upgrades are huge and instantly noticable. You dont have that yet then you compare top end pc games to the 360 or even the ps3. It hard to get the public to go out and buy a new system with out that.
I don't see any reason for either company to release a new console for a while, cause if they do, it will be extremely powerful, and will cost alot of money! In this economy, that is not a smart move. Plus, despite what many people say about either console, I think neither one has reached it's potential yet, and probably won't within the next few years. There is still alot of gaming left in these machines, especially with the powerful Ps3!
so in M$ words they mean that they will annouce the next Xbox next year
360 is here to stay
I want the next generation to come sooner. I'm ready to upgrade!
Get a PC.
the beta testing for the Xbox360 hardware is over! yay!
Yeah right, the 720 will drop in the Fall of 2010 just when Gears 3 and Halo 4 hit the market.
I want a new console in Dec. 2010
...So when Sony says the PS3 will be their premier console for at least 10 years, it was outrageous. Now that MS is saying the same thing, it's genius. Damn hypocrites.
I think what MS was saying was they'll take there time on the next console, not rush it out like the 360... If Sony said they're running with the PS3 for 10 years then they Lose.. The Video game Console is a five year Machine, after that it just gets old... the first year Dev's figuring out the system, 2-4 years Dev's top each other in game making... and year 5 the new console is born... the PS3 has not even match what they set out in the beginning Stating Game will run at 1080p?? I think maybe 5-7 game do that..... I'm about ready for something new... KZ2 with it's 10 hours single player won't hold me for 2 long.... I for one Can't wait to see whats next
Well, to be fair, when Sony announced their plans of a ten year lifespan for the PS3 they were talking about how long they would support the PS3, it didn't mean that they wouldn't release the PS4 before that time.
Lol, so true.
Bubbles up for reading my mind. Heck, bubbles to all of you who agree. ;-)
they said anything about sticking by it for sure the whole 10 years. i just see that they wanna stick to their guns a little longer. but even if they did, how is that hypocritical? Edit: you can disagree all day, like a child kicking and screaming on the floor, but it doesn't change anything. :(
We might see a new nintendo console sooner But yeah , I expect Sony's PS3 and MS Xbox360 to stay here longer than other generations of consoles. Ps2 is still running and its been what? almost 9 years ( am I the only one that feels that its still going to be here in 2010.???)
You are probably right seeing how in some countries the PS2 is just being unveiled for the first time
What ever you do Microsoft dont make it too "hot" this time
i see what you did there...very funny. bubble to you
they only saying that so u have a reason to keep buying an xbox....sad because u sure as hell dont have many games to show
This kid has the 360 confused with FlopStation3.
@GiantEnemaFail I'm sure you're confusing your Xbox Fee Fix Me with the Playstation 3. Just jump out. Jump right outa there. Save yourself from the evil green power. The 360 will be dead by the end of 2009. FACT No games in 09. FACT Zero 1st party games. FACT The PS3 will be winning for years to come. FACT Blu-ray will be winning for years and years to come. FACT The PS3 has more 1st party games than the 360. FACT WOULD YOU LIKE SOME PWN SAUCE WITH THAT?!?!?!?!
...the BEST EVER Looking Console game is coming out on the PS3 next month(i.e KillZone 2) Micro$oft say "Faster" and "Prettier" don't matter!!! ;-D Oh Dear...The next xBox will be a Wii Clone!!! ;-D
Don't look for Microsoft's Xbox "Next" anytime soon, says company President Robbie Bach. According to Bloomberg, Bach says Microsoft's planning to sticky by the Xbox 360 longer than the original Xbox because "it's getting harder to persuade consumers to upgrade." This is because they need to do excessive R&D because its harder for us to convince people to re-invest in shoddy hardware. I really hope that the next system when ever they decide to release it will be better researched and not released because "we want to be the first out there" I really wonder what would have happen if they took there time with the 360.
Rumor is... Next gen is in the works possibly by another as yet unnamed developer and they'll beat Sony, Microsoft & Nintendo to it, by fall 2011. Can't wait !
I doubt that would be the case as the big three own crucial patents that another dev would have to pay millions for.
Why make another Xbox when the current is the best console ever made? They should milk the 360 bone dry because it is amazing! It really has dethroned the PS2 in my opinion as greatest console!
Sorry dude, but the Xbox 360 is FAR from the greatest console ever made. Once the Xbox 360 sells over 140 million units, has the amount of games that the PS2 had and the amount of exclusive franchises that the PS2 had, then just MAYBE your opinion will hold some weight.
ooo so a consoles greatness is defined by its sales? so the wii is the best console this gen? did you just self pwn yourself and basically admit 360 is better than PS3 because it sold more? Greatness is not defined by sales... If thats true you are saying wii sports is the best game ever and Halo3 is better than MGS4, LBP, R2 etc etc n00b PSN: GametimeUK XBL: Gametime UK
W..Wh...Wha...WHAT?!?!?! I know it's your own personal belief but come the hell on now. You're really pushing it with that comment don't you think? Please, PLEASE!!! explain why you feel this way.
thats not what he meant, gametime. but how can a very loud system with a very high failure rate be considered the best of all time?? because it was the very FIRST next gen console to come on the market does not make it the best. WE all knew that next gen was coming, but so damn fast?? i was still playing my gamecube and PS2 when the 360 came out. MS are just greedy bastards i can't understand why 360 fanboys back them up. Halo3 and Gears are great games BUT they would've been just as fun IF they would've came out last gen. dont be stuborn dude. SNES could be considered the best of all time
Nobody cares what you think.
you sound like the mom of Kyle i think?? from south park...w..wh.whhat!?!? LOL love that show.
all hail the fanboy-lord!!! now really, consoles are great depending the fun factor... and i never saw one console that gave so much fun as PS2 (maybe de SNES) sooo, xbox360 don't even near the PS2 greatness, and this is coming from a nintendo fanboy...
To some, the Wii is their favorite. So what! My favorite car that I've ever had is my 2002 wrx, upgraded to 360 wheel horsepower. There are probably better cars, but not to me, cuz this is the best/fastest one I've ever had. That's my experience. The 360 is my favorite console. I can't explain why, but it's just the way the operating system is, the games, the friends list. Playstation 2 didn't have crap for online play, so for many, that's a big detraction. Just because YOU had most of your fun on a ps2, or another guy thinks the SNES is the best ever, doesn't make it FACT. Most people like the SNES best because they were young, and it made a bigger impact in their lives. The New Xbox Experience is just great. I love it. It's easy to get info about people, and find new friends. Playstation Home is a total waste of time. People there are not friendly, or they gyrate in your face. If that's your thing tho, good for you. The 360 is fine, and will be for years. I do, however, think that the ps3 is gonna rock the games this year. At least the 360 has outsold the original xbox, and they still want to keep it going. OF COURSE Sony wants to milk the ps3, they can't even get it's marketshare close to where the ps2 was. There is no way in HELL that they'll be coming out with a new system any time soon.
PS2 is the best because of the games not because of sales, use your f***ing brain, though it might be useless for you
We are never going to agree on what the definition of "best" is, and most of us don't have the self-awareness to look beyond their own preferences. But I can guarantee you that I will play the system I like, and everyone else will do the same, whether that's for the games they like, the graphics, or just to feel superior in an internet argument. You can find a metric to justify anything to yourself, but you can't force your concept of "best" on anyone else. So, "best" doesn't matter.
M$ will die so soon! what a pity. going back to third place is so heartbreaking. u could imagine what a non-FUTURE-proof machine would be doing in the market that long. considering the fact that the 360 is already MAXED out. there will be nothing exciting to gamers! Sony; so when is nex-gen STARTING?
That is your opinion don't pass it off as a fact
I never said it did... Thats why I said "in my opinion" :-) oooo a disagree... that basically means the disagree person thinks the 360 being better than the PS2 is a fact...
@GametimeUK: Wow, didn't see such delusional person for a loooong time. Cheers.
don't believe anything from a PR's mouth. they won't survive another 2 years, seeing as though a decent number of games this year and next year are maxxing out the 360 and will be multiple discs. the 360 is holding the ps3 back in this generation. does anyone really expect MS to come out and say "hey guys. we're releasing a new console in 2012, stop buying our current 360s and hold off till then".
yeah yeah yeah, but you forget, the PS2 held back the first XBOX last gen. It's O.K.if Sony does it,but not if MS does it. Find some new material man. P.S. is the 360 really holding back the PS3? Not really. Look at multi plat games. And also, the money and time it takes to develop on the PS3s retarded hardware architecture(opposed to the 360s)just like it was in the PS2s, really isn't practical in the long run when you consider the "slightly" better visuals you get on the PS3.........for a way higher development cost. FACT
sonyfanclubpres, what the hell r u talking about. the ps2 didnt hold back the xbox. the ps2 raped the xbox
I'm not talking sales kid. Do I really need to explain this to you? As far as multiplat games went last gen...............YES. The ps2 was almost always the lead system they developed on, and the 1st XBOX got the weak port, therefore proving my point,that the PS2 technically held back the XBOX 1. And all civilized people know,the 1st XBOX was the superior console. Fvck......why am I even explaining this to you, eff off.
I'm fine with no more new consoles or anything, with the economy and all that. Heck, I couldn't even save up enough to buy a PS3. Oh well, maybe in 3-4 years I could.
Best games for console come at the end of its lifecycle. Just think there was MGS2 back in 2002 or 01 I think it looked stunning for that time and it was said that it touched the upper end for PS2 in terms of processing. BU then MGS3, RE4, GOW1, GOW2 & Shadow of Colossus came and they where next gen when compared to MGS2 in graphics. So if its Gears 2 for 360 toucing the upper end in processing than I think there is a lot more to squeeze. Also there are a lot of games in 360 like NG2, Halo3, Forza2, PGR3&4 that didnt used the texture streaming technology like in Assassin and Uncharted, while still they dont look half bad. So there is some potential over there. I think MS, they took the right decision after a lot of time and its good that they have now released Jasper that is not problem plauged.
2nd generation PS3 games look better than 3rd generation 360 games. It'll only get worse.
Get a girlfriend
I like yours. She's free.
@Action: He doesn't have any. His nickname pretty much sums up his facial expression. Would you date him? /jk
well then MS is gona have to do something cause the 360 is already being maxed out .. and the ps3 with the killer looking game killzon 2 just using 60% and looks 10 times better then anything on the box ms really must be working on the next one... they dont want to have the same fiasco if this generation
Oh yeah you forgot about Uncharted 2 =)
"with the killer looking game killzon 2 just using 60%" lol, this remembered me of that anime cliche phrase "i am using only 10% of my power... now i will use 20%! [the floor shatters and explodes...]"
The only game to max anything out on the 360 was a game that revolved around physics and only maxed out the CPU. It pretty much did nothing with the GPU. And until a company can do both, it's not really maxed out, now is it? Also, the PS2 was maxed out pretty early in it's life as well. The Xbox had the best hardware and best graphics of the gen, but that didn't stop the PS2. In my eyes, it's happening in reverse. The 360 is the console with the less powerful hardware, and yet it's selling like crazy because of it's games.
I don't want a new console anytime soon.
Even one from Sega? ;)
Please no more Sonic, i might throw up.
I mean..."prettier" was apparently enough for the 360. That's the only difference between the Xbox and the Xbox 360. I'm just glad that better graphics won't be enough for them. Pushing the envelope is very much appreciated in the gaming world.
Try fixing the console you have first M$ before building a new one.