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Xbox Cloud Gaming: Meta Quest Gimmick or Vital Feature?

Xbox Cloud Gaming has finally come to Meta Quest. But is 2D Game Pass gaming in VR a gimmick or a vital feature?

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Einhander1972130d ago

It's funny that people talk about latency on the PlayStation Portal even though that uses your home network and provides a stable latency of single digit frames yet those same people would try to convince you that an unstable latency across that internet that could be double or triple or more digit frames with packet loss and retransmits is suitable for a VR headset.

mandf129d ago

Double edged hypocrisy. Pick what ever helps you justify an inferior product

Vits129d ago

Alright, let's break it down in simpler terms. The Portal is all about home streaming – if it messes that up, it's basically an overpriced doorstop. On the flip side, the Meta Quest is a VR headset, and the extra Cloud stuff is being shrugged off as more of a nice-to-have than a must-have, as per the article. So, in summary, it all boils down to the actual range of features of each device, which sets the expectations for their users. If you sell something that can literally only be used for a single thing you better make sure that it does that single thing to perfection and it also doesn't help that a lot of folks parroted the idea that the Portal would be completely usable outside of the home on public Wi-Fi or even by using a smartphone to route the connection - To be fair, I don't recall Sony themselves saying that, but even here in N4G we can find people parroting that.

Einhander1972129d ago

Some of what you say i would agree with. but I was just talking about the latency issue.

I am more or less talking about issues adjacent to this actual article. Like sites that gushed over streaming on xcloud but then basically told people that Portal was a bad experience because of latency. Which happened quite a bit.

And to be fair if you can get a good enough connection to use xcloud on your phone you can use the Portal via that hotspot just the same.

Vits129d ago

@Einhander1972

It again boils down to expectations. Are we expecting Game Pass Cloud to be flawless? Not really—it's part of a much bigger subscription package and is presented as such. On the flip side, the Portal has a singular job, and at a minimum cost of $200, perfection is definitely on the table. If Sony had marketed it as a "Pro controller" with additional local game streaming capabilities or positioned it as an Android tablet that doubles as a home streaming device, the expectations and scrutiny would undoubtedly be different.

Einhander1972129d ago (Edited 129d ago )

Get those goal posts right outa here...

So you're saying that the justification for a obvious double standard on latency is acceptable due to PlayStation marketing the device as a "Remote Player" instead of a "Pro Controller".

Wow... just wow...

marioJP87129d ago

I only play Gears Tactics because it doesn’t need that instant response time.
Cloud gaming will always have some sort of latency to it. Never good for fast paced games. Espeeeeeeecially shooters.

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PlayStation x PUMA Collection Releases April 2024

PlayStation x PUMA orders open April 18, 2024, Priced between $100 - $120!

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Barlos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Well, they're ugly aren't they?

Ironmike4h ago

Playstation should have went with nike

Tody_ZA25m ago

It ain't real until LeBron tells us what this shoe means to his career.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv722d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle2d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18812d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio2d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771d 21h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga2d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv721d 14h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19921d 9h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21832d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga2d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan1d 22h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1d 15h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus231d 21h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721d 20h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier1d 9h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan1d 1h ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1012d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos2d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1d 20h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac2d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1012d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic2d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1d 20h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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MudRunner VR Takes Meta Quest Off-Roading

Saber Interactive has announced MudRunner VR for Meta Quest headsets, bringing the off-roader into VR soon.

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OtterX3d ago

Nice! It's a shame that it has to be on the dumbest common denominator on the Quest though. I use a Quest2, but would much prefer being able to max out the graphics on Steam. I'm not looking to upgrade to a Quest3 at the moment.

gigoran82d ago

You gotta admit though, even the quest 2 poops all over the apple vision pro in terms of games. The quest, and even the quest 3 is just an affordable entry level.

OtterX2d ago

Well yea, that's why I have a Quest2. :D

It's a perfect entry point for PCVR! And yea, it's cool that it can run games natively. I just wish Mudrunner VR was coming to Steam so we can get it at its best.

Apple Vision Pro is made for complete home computer replacement, and it just happens to have a few games. It'll never be a focus. That price is crazy!

Jingsing2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

It is clear PSVR2 should have taken the stand alone approach with optional PS5 connectivity for those who own a PS5 to get those few premium titles that exist as 95% of the VR titles out there are stand alone quest versions. That would have bridged two markets. I just don't think Sony have the appetite to run another platform outside of the PS5 though.

Richhard11d 16h ago

But it’s already playable in vr with uevr!