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Epic CEO: Apple Is Next after Google; We'll Put Fortnite on Any Store (Even Steam) Without 30% Fee

Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney promised to continue his fight against Apple. He also said he'd put Fortnite on Steam if it lowered the 30% fee.

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Sciurus_vulgaris136d ago

Apple has a right to not allow Fortnite on its store and platform. Epic intentionally broke a contract, and publicly gloated about said infraction.

CrashMania136d ago

Unless I'm missing something, but what gives epic the right to host their game wherever they want and dictate the cut that storefronts charge for this service? Without these storefronts they wouldn't make any money.

But I've not been following all these cases closely so correct me if I'm wrong.

sparky77136d ago

Exactly this.

Epic can easily just go ahead and make their own Android storefront like they did on PC but they won't instead they want to use Google's and not have to pay for the privilege of doing so.

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ApocalypseShadow136d ago

No correction needed. You've summed up the issue Apple has with them and I have with them. Epic has gotten bigger and has become greedier. And willing to break rules to get what they want. But act as though they are in the right.

It would be like my walking into a retail store with my products and telling the company that I'm going to sell my products and services inside there and that they will not charge me a fee or have to lower that fee to my benefit. I'd throw them out and never look back.

They are trying to kill Apple's cut and dictate what others can charge them for setting up shop in other stores.

I like UE Tech. But in this instance, F em.

shinoff2183136d ago

Exactly shadow. I'm not understanding epics logic. Go try that sh at Walmart mart and see what they tell you, Costco, or any store. They sell shelf space essentially.

gerbintosh135d ago (Edited 135d ago )

"Unless I'm missing something, but what gives epic the right to host their game wherever they want and dictate the cut that storefronts charge for this service? "

It has been rumored that Netflix and Amazon did this exact same thing, lower the cut of the product that they sell on the app stores. Epic probably thought they were big enough to do the same

"Without these storefronts they wouldn't make any money."

Without Google/Apple storefronts Epic would just make their own. A lot of kids like fortnite and they would install the Epic store to play it. Problem solved.

People tend to forget that the app stores are in a symbiotic relationship with the developers. Without the developers Apple/Google don't get paid the billions in fees they charge. The developers need the app store to get their 70% cut of the product they generated.

If another store came along, that charged less fees, developers would test the waters and probably leave Apple/Google store, eventually. This is what Apple and Google don't want, free market choice.

Seafort135d ago (Edited 135d ago )

Free market choice hasn't changed much on the PC platform. Steam is still the number one digital store. Epic is so far behind it's not funny and they still haven't made any profit whatsoever.

This all started with Epic breaking the ToS of the Apple store by circumventing their payment system so Epic could get 100% of the profits.

There is only one bad guy here and it's not Apple or Google. It is their stores and Epic will play by their rules or have their games banned forever.

Jin_Sakai136d ago (Edited 136d ago )

“Epic CEO: Apple Is Next after Google; We'll Put Fortnite on Any Store (Even Steam) Without 30% Fee“

These companies that allow your games on their store are bringing you million upon million of users so they should get some cut, possibly 15% or even 10% would be acceptable.

Tacoboto135d ago

The problem is that Epic decided on their own one day they were too good to pay Apple's 30% royalty (that's consistent across most digital marketplaces).

Should it be lower? Absolutely. But Epic acted selfishly and stupidly; they risked the future of Unreal Engine on Apple platforms, and Fortnite got removed from a platform with hundreds of millions of devices and users that love buying anything on the App Store.

Who knows, if they didn't cut off that huge revenue stream and launch expensive self-serving lawsuits, maybe they wouldn't have had those layoffs

shinoff2183136d ago (Edited 136d ago )

Yay another overly rich company suing another overly rich company. Bet when they win all these cases, that your still spending the same amount of money on your skins and whatever other bs they sell on fortnite. These guys aren't looking out for the consumers interest only their own.

By chance if they do the opposite of what I said I'll eat it, but this is the same publisher that couldn't even bother to bring a aaa title to physical release. Fking j offs

anast135d ago

I wish it was another game than Fortnite.

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Outriders Dev's Next Game Has Been Canceled After Publishing Agreement With Take-Two Fell Through

Outriders developer People Can Fly's next game has been canceled after its publishing agreement with Take-Two Interactive fell through.

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Tacoboto1d 16h ago

"the capital group of PCF Group S.A."

If you're getting funding from a group that needs two different ways of Acronyming itself, things will not go the way you want them to.

banger881d 11h ago

If it was more online-only crap then good riddance.

jjb198121h ago

Outriders was crap. They slapped that game together and threw in a loot system to get players' attention. This game was absolutely jank and the always online nonsense made it stutter like crazy. People Can't Optimize.

thorstein20h ago

I liked Outriders but I could see where the artistic vision was compromised. The way the industry is now, it wouldn't surprise me that upper management would scrap something that didn't pull in money via gaas, mts, or other means.

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How to Visit Landmarks in Fortnite and Complete the Week 7 Quest

Finding Landmarks can be crucial for your Fortnite games, either for loot or for quests.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 14h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1d 1h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188122h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio22h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7717h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga1d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv7210h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19925h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21831d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga22h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan18h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit11h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2317h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7217h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier6h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

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purple1011d 3h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1d 3h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-16h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac1d 2h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011d 1h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic1d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead17h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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