Killzone 2 surpasses Crysis

During CES, Sony demonstrated the latest build of Killzone 2 for the PS3, which is set to ship out next month and suffice to say the game looks jaw dropping. Everything about the game was phenomenal from the details, physics, graphics, audio and gameplay.

[jkhan]

Technically no, artistically yes.

[Jock]

gameplay wise yes....and in the end thats what really counts....

[TheColbertinator]

@Jock

You are very wise.

bubbles for you

[evrfighter]

won't comment on the graphics part because I don't feel this article warrants such a debate.

But to go on like Crysis is a hit game for the pc gave me a good laugh. Even though Crysis did indeed break the one million sold barrier.

In its first month it only sold 84k...It's considered a flop in the pc community...lol, wonder if this guy knows that.

[gametheory]

I mean obviously that depends on the hardware you're running it, but... is there any engine other than the Killzone 2 engine that renders games the way it does? I think if it's not on par or better it's at least very near, and frankly after watching the last few Gametrailer videos which are *not* in HD looked amazing. Today I actually went into radioshack and watched KZ2 gameplay vids in an HDTV, and my god what a difference. I think KZ2 is up there with Crysis. PS3 might not have 2 or 4 Gigs of RAM, but the fact that it is a single SKU and the engine is highly optimized can at least give you the illusion that the game looks just as good in 720p as Crysis running @ 720p.

[SullyDrake]

It does surpass Crysis, although I mean Crysis without texture mods. Crysis with texture mods might be better, but that's merely a might.

Killzone 2 looks stunning.

[sonarus]

Fukin blogs need to die. These are just regular N4G members who just expand their usual N4G comments and post it on their blog just to submit as news. N4G already has a blog section and thats where blog news belongs

[MURKERR]

then re-post mate

[PoSTedUP]

but but but the CELL!!!

ah yes... the cell.... isnt it great. : D

[jkhan]

Ok I should have been a bit more specific. I didn't say that technically its bad or anything. Its technically the most advanced game on consoles, no game, & I don't even see Uncharted 2 surpassing it at a technical level. But you can't really compare Crysis running on a monster machine to Killzone 2 running on a console. Calling Killzone 2 graphics great or mind blowing is an understatement. & a console game competing with a high end pc game and while maintaining its own and coming close at some most spots is an achievement in itself.
But those of us who played Crysis on a high end machine knows from vegetation to sunset its a jaw dropping visual masterpiece, but again that does not mean Killzone 2 looks any less good. I am sure Crysis running on PS3 will not come close to what Killzone 2 looks like.
I hope that clarifies my statement.

[caladbolg777]

I agree, but if so, can we stop posting Kotaku articles on the front page as well? Kotaku is only a blog as well, and a crappy one at that.

[WANNA GET HIGH]

All i know is that i want killzone2 more than crysis.I never play PC games so i dont care about crysis.

[HighDefinition]

Killzone2 looks/moves better than Crysis.

HAVE YOU SEEN THIS....

http://www.gametrailers.com...

[DaTruth]

This is not good! I'm in the middle of LBP, Resistance 2 and Farcry; I'm not done with any of these games yet. And now three more games I have to get are due this spring, Killzone, Infamous, Resident Evil 5 and I just don't know how I'm gonna play them all.
It's gonna be like when I was a kid and my friends had an intervention to get me away from my Sega Master System.

[FantasyStar]

It's not. Killzone 2 is an incredibly good-looking game, however just no. Console Games will never look better than PC Games. EVER. People are confusing graphical prowess with art-direction: and this simply isn't the case. Art-Direction is always debatable, but in terms of sheer graphical prowess like 2048x1536 resolution, 100% Dynamic Shadows, 8x AA, 100% Dynamic Lighting, Fully-Destructible Environment, Insane Layer of Depth(LoD), and a game that's comparable to real-life: there isn't anything to debate about. (notice how I didn't bring textures into question because consoles have done a great job with streaming high-res textures: Uncharted is testament to this fact)

For one thing, Just because you can see Rico's sweat does not automatically mean Crysis is automatic "suck" in the modeling department. Just different detail in different places. The details in the Nanosuit itself, and the Korean Soldiers blows away the ISA models, and the Helghast models with much left over. And BIG LOL@ the physics claim. Look, you can literally tear down everything in Crysis from sandbags to friggin buildings with your CAR! YOUR CAR! Last time I checked, in Killzone 2: you can't even use a grenade to blow away sandbags - different details in different areas. I'll give that Killzone 2 focuses on different areas that really stands out like , little rocks falling down of buildings, lighting, how mud looks, and wind direction. However if you've truly played Crysis on the setting that offers every single detail that Crytek has to offer. You'll realize that the article is clearly off its rocker. , Crysis is rendered on a much bigger scale than Killzone 2, with much more going on than Killzone 2 is this is why there's simply no other Graphical King than Crysis.

I still admire Killzone 2 very much, but this article is just engulfed in its own hype. Crysis blows Killzone 2 out of the water: there isn't much to debate about unless you want to compare sweat which is the only thing the article points out. Last time I checked, especially in the physics department: in Crysis, you can spawn 3,000 EXPLODING barrels or 5,000,000 Chickens and all would react to its physics properly, all with its own shadowing and proper lighting So let's break it down.

Physics? Crysis Wins
Detail? Debatable. (sweat really, c'mon. I can think of better ways why Killzone 2 stands up on its own)
Graphics? Crysis Wins( just being able to render that beautiful of a world on a geographic scale is automatic win already. If Layer of Depth(LoD) wasn't ever a consideration into graphical prowess: then I would argue that Gears 2 looks just as good as Killzone 2 because both can only render so much on screen, while I can fire a rocket in Crysis and it would go on forever and actually hit the nearby island that's a couple thousand feet away.)

I own a PS3, 360, and moderately powerful PC and I can still make this claim. Don't get too sucked in the Killzone 2 hype to forget that PCs will and always will surpass consoles in every way if developers step up. Crytek has clearly proved their talent with Crytek Engine 2 & Crysis and shouldn't be looked down upon just because the media decided to suck on GGs balls for the moment. Killzone 2 is definitely a great looking game and it achieves a hollywood style that's definitely respectable, but to compare Killzone 2 and Crysis together? Please...

The only thing Killzone 2 should be proud of is the fact that it looks so damn good that people are actually willing to compare Killzone 2 to Crysis, when the general consensus is that even Gears 2 cant' stand up to Crysis. The fact that the big PS3 game can be compared to a PC game is a merit on its own and that's what matters here.

@datruth
I thought about not posting this gigantic wall-o-text, but you know what? Why not? I know I should wait until the retail version is out: but the wait for Killzone 2 is killing me.

@Consoldtobots
I understand where you're coming at, however this isn't a debate about how the graphics are limited by how much we're willing to spend. It's a debate about graphics between Killzone 2 vs. Crysis period. If we were debating about the biggest bang for your graphical buck: then I'd clearly say Killzone 2 is the winner in all regards. However an article claims that one game looks better than the other, so money stops becoming a factor. We're comparing the best of integrities between 2 games. If we were to use your logic: then I'd argue that Gears 2 offers the biggest bang for your graphical buck because well...$200 Xbox 360 + $60 Gears of War 2 = $250.

[DaTruth]

I saw a tech demo on my 14" low res screen and I was blown away by Crysis. Obviously the textures weren't there and the video was highly compressed and still I was blown away. The open world nature of Crysis and the insane amount of destructability beats down every game technically. So even with my little taste of Crysis I would have to say "no" Killzone does not compare to Crysis, but we should reserve our judgment for the final build as everyone says it looks far better than what we've seen thus far and what we've seen looks incredible.

P.S.You're getting upset at people comparing Killzone to Crysis and than you bring Gears(pop in textures) 2 into it. Gears 2 doesn't compare to Uncharted and you're placing it with Killzone and Crysis.

[Consoldtobots]

you miss Fantasy Star is that while Crysis is an incredible game in and of itself, the hardware it runs on to it's full capacity is a RARITY. Meaning very few people are willing to build the rig it would take to run all those settings maxed at playable framerate. It would most likely be a dual or quad SLI setup meaning you would need to buy 4 top of the line graphics cards. That's about $2000 alone, nevermind the memory, peripherals and software you would need to do this.
The fact that a PS3 game is even generating a debate as to wether it looks better than Crysis speaks volumes about the power of a console Sony is currently selling for $400-$500 or better yet the price of just one of those graphics cards. Who will have their game played in it's true graphical glory by more people when it's all said and done? That's why PC vs console arguments are silly and way off point.

[The Killer]

in graphics i think crysis looks more real but killzone 2 looks just better with all the light effects, its like CG game while crysis is like more realistic and more detailed but not better looking!

so i think people will vote for killzone 2 graphics!

and for physics i think crysis wins in that department but who said that physics is what makes the game more fun?? its good to gave realistic physics but in the difference is small and one game is better in many things then it wont matter.

gameplay clearly killzone 2 wins, i had Crysis on my pc, my pc is 3.6GHz intel CPU, nvidia 7800 GTX 265MB and 2GB RAM, and i barely run it on medium settings and the gameplay sucked so much that i removed it from my pc very before i had to fight the Aliens!

so this is what i think

graphics Crysis wins but Killzone 2 is better looking
physics Crysis wins but killzone 2 feels better
gameplay kilzzone 2 wins
story definitely Killzone 2 wins!

so i think in the overall Killzone 2 is much better!

[MazzingerZ]

I've never cared about Crysis or whatever you can play on a PC because to get the best experience you need to upgrade every year...yeah games looks great but provided you count with certain specifications

I like consoles because you buy a piece of HW and games look every year better and better without you needing to do anything to the consoles, development is more standardiserad and devs can specialize and get the better from the HW as the time goes.

On the PC devs says, let's make this amazing game, you just need this much RAM, this type of card, etc to be able to run it...

I'd never compare Killzone 2 or MGS4 to a PC game but only against other games on the same console or the X360...now if Crysis runs on a PC you bought 2 years ago that hasn't been upgraded at all then I'd say Crysis is also a technical achievement.

Killzone 2 is a technical achievement that will just cause devs to put more effort and deliver better games...also it shows what the PS3 is capable of... MGS4, Uncharted, GT5P, Wipeout HD are not concidence or pure luck....after all, it seems the PS3's HW is not a "waste of time"

[TheExecutive]

There is NO WAY it takes Crysis technically. I am sorry, it just doesnt. However, artistically? It takes it by a mile. I cant comment on the gameplay as I havent played either game.

Hype is ok guys, but take a step back and quit saying stupid sh*t. Crysis still takes it on the technical side. but I dont really care. Killzone 2 looks to be a better game...

[HighDefinition]

When the the guy falls slowly and his shoulder hits the railing (right at the start) is the most realistic footage I`ve ever seen from a videogame. Crysis doesn`t do that. Crysis is a beautiful game, but I think Killzone2 is FAR more impressive.

[FantasyStar]

It's just simply different details in different areas and it appeals to different people. Personally, I like how the rag-dolls work in Killzone 2. Physics-based calculations with a combination of mo-cap, hit-detection, and force application to render a realistic way of interacting with the environment is definitely a step forward for our industry. I would consider Crysis of being short in that respect but only because of Germany's strict censorship on violent acts depicted in video games: which is why Crytek took out the death rag-doll physics, so you can't beat em around after they're dead. (on paper anyways, community mods say otherwise)

P.S. - aww...I got de'bubbled.

[jammy_70]

yes gameplay is important but come on...the graphics is why we are all so bloody excited about this game!!!

[Danja]

at first the graphics was what made every one excited , but after playing the Beta the gameplay is also really f-ing fun and intense and just left you wanting more...

so it's both graphics and gameplay...thats makes me want this game...

[hippo24]

Im sorry Killzone looks good (no doubt there) but Im almost positive that Crysis is better, just because of the relative technical specs of the PC and the Ps3. Its Hard for a console game to contend with a PC with ease of programing, and computing power.

While Im looking forward to Killzone 2, I don't think Im going to be as impressed as I was with Crysis.

[house]

this game is great do really always do the thing where oh it looks better than this and that please its a good game and thats it

[Consoldtobots]

some people just dont get it to the point of being obtuse. You can't argue tech specs because it doesn't take the software side of the argument into account. IMO developers haven't really begun to dig into what the cell processor can do along with the RSX. It may take them a few years to master new programming concepts to bring their visions to life. The payoff will be huge in the long run as Sony will have a solid platform to expand on into the future. The PS4 could simply have two cell broadband engines and the latest graphics card at the time and it would be all set to deliver amazing graphics from day one.

[Raptors]

I admit, I was a non believer. Now, this game has brought me to my knees...I can no longer argue against it. February can't come soon enough.

[morganfell]

Technically in some areas yes as well. GG availed themselves of the Cell's ability to do perform mathematical calculations at warp 9. Hence the bullet impact physics calculations that Crysis or Crysis Warhead cannot approach.

And as a 360 superfan if you are reduced to throwing a PC game at the PS3 that was known for crippling 95% of the PC rigs in the world then you have lost and should just go home.

[MNicholas]

There are so many different parameters (from ROP output to bullet response to vertex transform to number of simultaneous real-time lights, and so on ...) that can be used to argue one way or another. Two well informed people could debate this for weeks.

Overall, Crysis has it's moments when it looks absolutely incredible and so does Killzone 2. I'd say Killzone 2 does an overall better job at being graphically consistent, interactively realistic (none of that floating gun nonsense), and generally more immersive and therefore takes the win.

Killzone 2 will probably have better sound as well.

[Ninja-Sama]

KZ2 is more appealing to me both visually and in terms of gameplay.

[evrfighter]

@ morganfell

You may think that comparing the two would make killzone 2 a great game just because its compared to crysis. But this isn't the media doing it. It's some blogger that nobody knows about. So in that respect the media isn't comparing killzone 2 to crysis because there's still so much of a gap it's not even funny.

If you wanna debate gameplay wise. Crysis is not a hard game to beat. There's a reason it only sold 84k in its first month. well two reasons actually. But no one I've met has said Crysis is the best game they've ever played.

This is why I said above. This article doesn't even warrant a comparison debate. Because Killzone 2 doesn't come close to what Crysis did visually. It's interesting to me that sony fans would take a some unknown blog and almost make it out to be the truth.

There's a reason you wont see this comparison in the media. To do so would make you the laughingstock of the tech industry.

[pain777pas]

The anger at the article is astounding. This is not a 360 debate. This is really what the author was really getting at was pointing out that a console game could be mistaken to be the best graphic game on the planet that's all. Just relax and drink a cold beverage we all know that PCs will always have better graphics but isn't it nice to congradulate an excellent dev team on a job well done?

[Shepherd 214]

please tell me you guys arnt serious?? please tell me this article is a joke??? Theres no way in the living gates of hell killzone 2 has better graphics than crysis, its not possible. Crysis maxed out on a PC destroys Killzone in ever sense of the word.

Not to mention, Crysis has enormous, dense jungles, gorgeous water visuals, rays of sun reflect off every leaf, the grainy sandy beaches and jungle canopy, rocks look ridged and coarse as can be, AI is superb, enemies faces are more detailed than any console game this generation can handle, and theres so much more.

KIllzone 2: Black, gray, gray, brown, gray, black, gray, black, brown.

this article is way out of proportion, jesus come back to reality

[iamtehpwn]

Crysis had no ART direction at all.

[incogneato]

technically Crysis has more in some spots, but so does Killzone 2. but it doesnt matter because Crysis is a piece of crap. its easy to make a game that looks like a Pixar movie, but will it run? nope. and Crysis still doesnt run well after years. its a true piece of crap. it has a lot going on, a lot of wasted resources, yet Killzone 2 STILL looks way better. the animations physics AI and more are also TECHNICALLY superior to Crysis. in the end Killzone 2 has more technical achievements AND looks visually superior to Crysis.

[pixelsword]

...because people were doing the same thing with HAZE before it came out, remember?

http://www.monky.ro/wp-cont...

Just wait until you see it with your own eyes, then judge.

Don't be so eager to let someone think for you.

As far as we know, this person could be doing it for hits to their website, just like some people will say Killzone 2 doesn't look better than the first Gears... for the hits.

[MazzingerZ]

@pixelsword
"Just wait until you see it with your own eyes, then judge"

I won't judge...I know I'll cry, hug my PS3 and turn a candle to a Ken Kutaragi picture for his vision when designing the PS3 HWw...he's a genius!

[pixelsword]

you get a bubble for that.

[Legion]

Killzone 2 surpasses Crysis
President Obama owns a Wii - Nintendo start new world order
Sony talks up PS3 and sticks it to Wii, Xbox - Flamebait?
Qore gets PS3 exclusive demos - F.E.A.R 2
Xbox 360 LittleBigPlanet killer part of shift to casual market

This is what we get from this site all the time. Sensational claims to draw their crowd. Stop pandering to them.

[theox2g7]

You're wrong about sales but right about the stupidity of comparisons, Do some research, Crysis NPD results was 86k indeed, But guess what? That was only after 2 weeks from launch and the NPD doesn't even measure digital distribution that takes up a huge chunk of sales or better yet Europe where pc gaming is huge, You want proof? Check the German, French, Italian charts where pc games mostly dominate top selling lists, Those results were far from indicative about the game sales, What's even worse about those NPD results is that 2.5 weeks later, EA themselves came out named Crysis a commercial success due to hitting platinum sales in less than 50 days worldwide, And this didn't even add private digital distribution and Crysis wasn't even on Steam, Why do you think that Orange Box on pc outsold both console versions combined by a double digit percentage when Steam sales were added? Just so you know, the game Crysis hit 2 million before Q2 last million when some other independent digital retailers added in their figures, And sales are even higher now that it is on Steam with Warhead, Oh no, but these sales are bad yet some of you avidly defend LBP's sales and I concur with each of those arguments, Same case for Crysis, new franchise, 1 million in a short time worldwide = Sales success, Only difference is less people could play Crysis at launch compared to the 20 million ps3 owners who could for LBP, I don't even think 1 million people had rigs that could run high settings in fall 2007, yet it hit platinum quickly, That's pretty darn good if you ask me,

For those nitpicking its gameplay aspect saying its all graphics or that it isn't fun, try playing the game first, And if you wanna know why it sold well whiles Gears of War pc was abysmal, It's because Crysis was a pc game at heart, a breath of fresh air to shooters and the nanosuit was a nice innovation along with little immersion tweaks that made the overall experience what it is, There's nothing like smashing a north Korean through a building or throwing an exploding barrel at an approaching enemy boat to blow it up, Or even gunning down a chopper with a chain gun and seeing it crash and burn more North Koreans on the grounds thanks to the impressive open world physics, Just watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

That's why Gamespot gave it a 93 and it averages in 90s on all gameranking sites, It was a good game and you can't deny it, Just because you can't play it doesn't mean you should downplay it, Try beating the single player before making judgments instead of watching crappy youtube videos

[Consoldtobots]

"@Consoldtobots
I understand where you're coming at, however this isn't a debate about how the graphics are limited by how much we're willing to spend. It's a debate about graphics between Killzone 2 vs. Crysis period. If we were debating about the biggest bang for your graphical buck: then I'd clearly say Killzone 2 is the winner in all regards. However an article claims that one game looks better than the other, so money stops becoming a factor. We're comparing the best of integrities between 2 games. If we were to use your logic: then I'd argue that Gears 2 offers the biggest bang for your graphical buck because well...$200 Xbox 360 + $60 Gears of War 2 = $250."

true but I haven't heard anyone comparing Gears to Crysis, not even close, THAT is the difference.

[Nathan Drake]

And boom goes the dynamite.

[HDgamer]

If this is certainly true I think this game will be the new benchmark for this generation until GOW3 surpasses it.

[Ashton]

kudos to them

[gameraxis]

is farcry2... no way crytek is going to spend the time juicing every ounce of the ps3, there gonna do a calculation and say this is how good we can do it...

[Ju]

I bet if others realize what benchmark KZ2 is, and it'll sell a couple of millions, some might reconsider their decision.

[ape007]

the anticipation us killing me

[badz149]

I can't wait plus I can't get the game straight away on 1st day because I'll nrd to buy it from ebay! argh!!

[el_bandito]

There's no need for this game to surpass some other game. All it needs is to surpass my expectations, and seemingly it will. Cheers!

[RememberThe357]

And I'm freakin happy they said it. I can't wait to have this game in my hands. My PS3 is going to get a lot of use.

[mr chup]

Sony , Sony , Sony ........."Sigh" when will they ever learn?

[Danja]

what did Sony do now ?.

lemme guess they bought very a talented Game Dev company...which happened to so far have made the best looking console game and it kills you that Sony has delivered on there promises with this game..

Sony wasn't the one who made this bold statement...XD..it's obvious to everyone that KZ2 just looks that damn good

[gametheory]

Said "Mr. Chump", 'nuff said.

[ultimolu]

Don't be jealous of Killzone 2.

[TheExecutive]

What in the h*ll are you talking about? Sony said nothing and has nothing to do with this article.

[Lykon]

and we ready to go in. M$ = fail . Sony = owns . Crisis = fail (This article proves that as fact) KZ2 = owns everything. 360 is on deathbed.

[TheColbertinator]

It has not passed Crysis at High Settings yet.The explosion effects in Crysis and ocean graphics are still top-notch

[eelnats2000]

will probably be the game to define the FPS genre.
Xbox fanboys, you should be happy this game is coming out.

If it werent for this game, other FPS' wont have competition.
If this game sets the tone for all games to come, you better hope microsoft comes up with a better one. And when that happens, Sony will unveil an even better game.

To be honest, we ALL should be happy about the console wars. More fun for us gamers with the expense of billions of dollars from MS and Sony.

Wheee

[TheColbertinator]

I doubt KZ2 will make me think of it as an equal to Goldeneye 64,Halo 1,Timesplitters 2,Half-Life 2,battlefield 2,or Call of Duty 4.

I'm just telling you guys to be cautious

[GiantEnemyLobster]

Looks like it belongs on the Nintendo 64. Graphics surpass Crysis? LMAO how do you do that with only 256mb RAM haha.

[TheColbertinator]

edit:nevermind

[Jager]

@ Giant

*Headbangs Desk*

PS3

256MB of DDR2 800MHz
256MB of XDR 3.2GHz

Total: 512MB

360

512MB of DDR2 800MHz

Total: 512MB

Ps3's XDR is however, better then DDR2

[eelnats2000]

are you serious?
Do you really want to make yourself look like a complete fool?
You're actually going to compare killzone 2 with games from the Nintendo 64?!

HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA

and to top it off, you were hoping you were right about the ps3's memory, but yet again, you end up looking really stupid.

You just made my day

[PoSTedUP]

eelnats... jager.... yall really responded to that didnt yall. *sigh*

word of advice; ignorant people dont give a f***! its like explaining something to a wall.... please, dont waste your time. just helping yall out.

"you were hoping you were right about the ps3's memory" lol!! u really think that? cmon man : /

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

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[Rs]

Why do all the xbots sound so stupid!? xbots, get some fix! What? Warranty over!? About time to take a walk into the dumpster where ya belong!

[achira]

sorry but the water effects in crysis are poor. i think all the effects are better in killzone2. killzone is better, and i have played both games already. btw the dying animations in crysis suck.

[morganfell]

I still have my N64 with Goldeneye hooked to my PC flatscreen. Quite honestly it's time to stop talking about Goldeneye like it is still a great shooter. It is fun and it broke a lot of ground but by today's standards it is an N64 game with spawning enemies, massive numbers of trigger points, a linear campaign, far outdated graphics, a clumsy control scheme induced by the controller, etc etc etc ad nauseum.

I love it and PD but it's day has come and gone. And BF2 as a memorable title? Give me a frackin' break.

[GiantEnemyLobster]

This idiot has it all wrong.

XDR is better than DDR2 SRAM.

But guess what? The 360 has 512mb of GDDR3. GDDR3>XDR>

The PS3 DOES have 256mb of GDDR3, not DDR2 you idiot. But last time I checked, 512mb of GDDR3 is better than 256mb of GDDR3 and 256mb of that crappy XDR.

[byaaface]

conversations like this make me hate News4Fanboys soooooo much... DX

[Gue1]

PC's need a lot of ram because they run a lot of procedures, consoles aren't computers and they were specifically created to play games not to edit photos and all that crap a PC does.

[ReTarDedFisHy]

The 360's 512MB GDDR3 RAM runs at a 700MHz crawl.
The PS3's 256MB main XDR runs at 3.2GHz, almost 5 times faster.

So, the 360's shared 512MB GDDR3 RAM - 700MHz
And, the PS3's dedicated 256MB GDDR3 VRAM - 700MHz
Plus, the PS3's main 256MB XDR RAM - 3.2GHz

View the Attached Image. Try not to cry.
You lose again, Crab. Try harder next time.

[GiantEnemyLobster]

That XDR is for "teh cell". And guess what? 32MB of it is for the XMB menu lmao. So guess what? You only get -up to' 480MB ram for gaming AHAHAH FAIL.

Don't even bother replying, just pretend you didn't read this to save yourself the embarrassment.

[ReTarDedFisHy]

Embarrassment? You're the one that should be embarrassed.

First of all, are you REALLY trying to imply that the Cell doesn't contribute anything to how Killzone 2 looks? The stupidity.

Second of all, you're the one that said that XDR was crap, and that GDDR3 was better. I disproved that. You were owned. STFU.

Third of all, the XMB requires 64MB of XDR RAM and 32MB of the GDDR3 VRAM. So that leaves less RAM available. But so what?

Honestly, why are you saying that the PS3 has so little RAM? Does it matter? Apparently not. Look at Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain. The PS3 has so little RAM, yet it can produce visuals miles better than the 360? WTF? What are you saying? That the PS3 doesn't need RAM to prduce "Holy SH*T" visuals? Really. Where are you going with this.

You lose again, Crab. Try harder next time.

[GiantEnemyLobster]

You are a helpless basket case.

[ReTarDedFisHy]

Is that all you can say? Too afraid to say something utterly idiotic this time that you THINK are facts? Really? That's it? This is how you use your last bubble? C'mon. I expected more of you, Crab.

You lose again, Crab. Try harder next time.

[Consoldtobots]

thats some of the biggest ownage I've ever seen on an internet forum.
Maybe lobster should retire his account because any honorable man would not show his face after being humiliated like that.

[Blasphemy]

This is a random blog why bring Sony into this?

[IdontTakeSides]

well aslong as it surpasses my expectation im happy...I played Crysis and it's a very beautiful game but it's just like another shooter...

KZ2 seems to have both graphics and gameplay..locked to the max....

[The gaming GOD]

Stuff like this is exactly why people say "Sony says they have a halo killer"

Some random blogger or journalist "labels" Killzone as a "halo killer". Then the media follows suit and does the same thing. And then when killzone 1 didn't turn out as planned, then everyone says "I thought sony said they had a halo killer".

Media and bloggers make bold claims and then blame the company if their "expectations" aren't met. And lastly, they'll go on to say "Sony said this and that" when the truth is THEY themselves (media) are the ones making these claims

[Kleptic]

bubbles...perfect comment, absolutely nothing for me to add...

[baodeus]

wow, pretty big claim that killzone has better physics than Crisis. Overhype much. Can anyone seriously comparing the two and game and say that kZ2 look better. In crisis, every bullet you shoot count. You can shoot a hole through every leaves and you can see it in crisis. That how much physic that game has. It is just too bad that the current technology can't handle it.

But none the less, KZ2 is still pretty impressive. The animation is probably one of the best so far.

At the rate it is going, i don't think KZ2 will ever surpass the hype going into it. Stop hyping, it not gonna help the game. That is why most game now a day don't have the same spark like back in the old days.

[Aclay]

"Stop hyping, it not gonna help the game."

Just like Killzone 1, it's the gaming media hyping the game, so don't blame Playstation fans for it.

However this time for Killzone 2, I think the hype is actually justified simply because the game actually plays just as good as the game looks.

Halo had a bunch of hype around it's release, so this is no different to me.

[Ju]

Physics...do you even have any idea how much calculations go into these rag doll physics? Every pixel has weight, wind has an impact on how you throw a grenade, it changes the sand/dust on the ground, "hit response", which mean every part of the body reacts correctly to a physically correct calculated bullet (like speed, weight, wind, etc). And there is not just ONE guy on screen, there are a couple of dozens of those.

I claim, KZ2 physics by far outperforms crysis. Destructible environment has been done before. Just because you can destroy everything does not mean its physics is more advanced.

[evrfighter]

cryengine 2 physics in real time says hi

http://www.gametrailers.com...

heres the full version.

http://www.gametrailers.com...

again this is not pre-rendered this is real time

[Ju]

And ? Should I be impressed or what ? A couple of big grains of sand. I mean, what do you think what sand is ?

[Rhoic]

"Just because you can destroy everything does not mean its physics is more advanced."

Yes it does, rofl. But I would love what you're smoking.

Crytek 2 Engine > Killzone 2 Engine..

[Ju]

Destruction alone has been done in for example Battle Field: Bad Company. So ? But does it combine this with wind ? Sand and smoke (volumetric) ? And does the wind have an impact at any grain of sand ? Destruction is nice, but physics goes so far beyond that. BTW: Wind has an impact how you throw your grenade in KZ2. It could blow it right back at you (well, not sure if its that strong), it has an impact how your run, e.g. against or with the wind, degeneration of surfaces, etc. And, yes, KZ2 has selective destruction as well.

[Rhoic]

Yes, it does. Crysis does all of that. Have you never seen a game using the Crytek Engine 2? I think Farcry 2 did it as well. When you would throw a grenade, it would kick up dirt and blow in the direction the wind was blowing. Not to mention it would sometimes bend trees and leaves all dynamically or just completely blow them apart.

Another thing you have to realize is that Killzone 2's engine does NONE of that. The fact that Crytek Engine 2 does at least half of that would obviously make it a more powerful physics engine.

[plain rice]

Crysis still wins with the higher resolution, higher res textures, higher AA, and the destructibility.

With all that said, I still think Killzone 2 "looks" better. Better presentation and visual art.

[4cough]

Killzone 2 surpasses Crysis.........Yeah,sure it does.

[dukadork2]

here's some tissue for the tears today and the wet dreams tonight

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA!

[Freakwave003]

This is madness!

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Madness?

[Jager]

THIS IS KILLZOOOOOOONE!!!!!

[PeptoBismol]

lmao

great set-up ; bubbles

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

PS3 is undoubtedly the graphic console king of this generation. The games are being compared to high end PC games for Christ sake.

[Tiberium]

Sorry, whoever made this story is an complete idiot. Crysis goes for realism not style. And killzone 2 looks cartoony compared to crysis. PC will always be the graphics king.

http://pc.ign.com/dor/objec...

vs.

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/obje...

[Bathyj]

I was wondering about performances wise.

Surely that must go to Killzone as it runs brilliantly on every PS3 where I suspect an average PC or anything short of Ninja quality would fall short in performance.

Can anyone whose played it on just a good, not awesome PC shed more light of that?

[evrfighter]

well nowadays my pc is would cost around 650 (probably less now) to build and I can play crysis on high at 35fps. 1280x1024 noxAA. I beat the game with this setting actually.

I was messing around with Vista and dx10 crysis the other day. I didn't have a problem with it at very high 0xAA 1280x1024. But this was only messing around the beginning part of the game. I would imagine the scenario "assault" would probably strain it to around 20-25frames

I'm always running fraps in my background and usually run the fraps benchmarking tool and run the crysis benchmarking tool when I'm tweaking ingame commands. So I'm not just "eyeing" these numbers.

As from I've been told by killzone II fans. It averages around 30fps also with a slightly lower resolution.

[Qdog]

You could buy a laptop capable of running Crysis on high at 1440*900 resolution. I have a slightly modded Qosmio X305-Q701, and I havent met an unplayable game yet at high settings. Oh yeah, the specs are.......
Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 @2.8ghz(6mb L2 cache)
4GB DDR3 Ram at 1066mhz, 7-6-6-17
Nvidia GeForce 9700m GTS OC'd(700mhz-1000mhz-1800mhz)
320gb HDD @ 7200rpm(Vista X64) + 200gb HDD @7200rpm(Fedora Core X86)
Realtek HD 8 channel audio(4 internal speakers + 1 internal subwoofer)
(added second fan, processor upgrade over stock, and a second HDD)

[Highatus]

You bought my laptop!!!

But, seriously i'm planning on purchasing the same.

[Qdog]

It is an awesome desktop replacement, with alot of upgrade potential for a laptop. So congatulations. I am currently seeking out the part number for the 9800MGTX so I can upgrade the videocard(for Crysis level making and cad). The video card in it will do, but 1 gb vram vs 512 mb, there is no contest.

[Arsenal4Ever]

I still refuse to look at those 4 trailers :)

[Danja]

same here not watching a single video of this game till I got the game in hand...

[QSPR]

need to see just this one http://www.gametrailers.com...

and let me know,please just that one!!

[Consoldtobots]

all these fanboy sites with, "the first ten minutes" of any game are silly and spoilers. Why would you ruin your experience by knowing what is going to happen?

[Highatus]

If you want to be teased, get the new episode of Qore :P it includes some bits about heavy rain too.

[Cyber Gamer]

Next gen starts when this game is out

Can't wait no more hope some shops release it before the date so i can get to playing now

[Helghast Slayer]

Hahaha man killzone2 is so going to own. Can't remember a 360 game being compared to high end pc games lol.....no seriously anyone? The ps3 and pc are in their own league.

[monitor]

yea they both sucking ass in sales

[Helghast Slayer]

F#cking noob. That's the only argument you xf#gs only have. Sales don't mean sh!t when your game is a turd lol. Go chuck that Sh!tBoxPleaseFixMe in the dumpstar and upgrade to a superior tech. Even the Wii doesn't use a disk tray for christs sake LMFAO.

[monitor]

but yet the wii is raping both ms and sony hard. sales may mean nothing to you, but the publisher and developer it does. If it doesnt sell then theres no need to continue to make games or it closes down.Idiot.

[nycredude]

So which one are you? You a developer or are you a publisher? I only ask because by your comments you obviously aren't a gamer. you seem to care alot about sales. Which is it?

[Marceles]

I'll just say that Killzone 2 is the closest console game to ever give a benchmark PC game a run for its money.

[Horny Melon]

you can definitely see the GTA blur filter going on there.

[Dark General]

Actually the only time i see blur is when it's prolonged running involved just like Mirrors Edge. If i'm not mistaken they had a article up about the blur tech and light tech they are using for Killzone. It was a design choice not a "cover up" choice like GTA4 was. I don't like blur filters that seem like they are just covering up blemishes.

Not for nothing but Crysis just never looked that jawdropping to me. Neither has alot of games that get the "best graphics" monikers. Visual style/art direction means more to me than just technical prowess. And environments really are under appreciated i think.

[spandexxking]

i prefer killzone 2 but crysis does have its moments if you have the comp to make it look good

[TrueSonyFaN]

i seen crysis and it looks amazing but Killzone 2 is the whole package Killzone 2 makes you feel like your in a Killzone total chaos and havic rockets, bullets, people helping injured men on da ground, man this game is insane.. I aint never seen a war like thats.. a real war.. cant wait to play this game..so "Epic"

[Silent]

I can't say it better

[pornflakes]

It took nearly 3 years to show ppl some power of the pS3.. and all the time ppl where waiting and waiting and 360 gamers got the better multiplatt games.

Now you have one good game but Infinity ward sure will destroy KZ2.

Its SAD that SONY MUST bundle all their games to reach 2 million after 2 months... eh.. 2 million = consoles sold after 2 months, so = sales flop.

[GIJeff]

you flop as a human.

[Rhythmattic]

Oh Well. At least Sony didnt bundle in RROD

[Viper7]

Well havent played Crysis, but Killzone does have really good gameplay on the multiplayer part atleast. Also single player has had its praises too.
As for Graphics, probably not but it still looks awesome.

[ps12&3lover]

crab you most want attention. if this looks like nintendo 64 den halo looks like game boy.

[erodrig]

Sony might finally pull it off since the first killzone was on a weaker specs machine but they managed with it still i think this one will set the WOW FACTOR! on Sony's Machine and well just like Metal Gear Solid 4:Guns Of The Patriots and Uncharted as well as the Gears Of War Series they have set a mark on gaming consoles but lets be realistic here a PC will never be beaten down never they might come close but no i dont think it will surpass Crysis ,but definitely im buying this game when it comes out cause its leaving a great benchmark not only on GRAPHICS but in PHYSICS RAG-DOLL AND DAMAGE TO STRUCTURES WELL I HOPE IT RECEIVES SOME GOOD REVIEWS CAUSE THE MEDIA ITS THE DECIDING FACTOR WHEN WE GOING TO PURCHASE A GAME OR NOT??

[peeps]

i'm not so sure about surpassing crysis but what i do no is that it looks stunning and dare i say it, 1 of the best looking console games ever. Plus you have the bonus that every ps3 owner can experience this game in all its glory but to experience crysis in all its glory then obv need to get yourself a really high end rig.

its just the little details in killzone i'm liking, watch the videos several times and u just notice so many different things which i think will all add up to a great experience. its not just graphics though but the sounds and physics are top notch as well.

people would probably disagree but i do actually think the final product looks better than the first trailer (that came under alot of fire)

[Kratos19]

I don't remember any 360 "games" being compared to Crysis.

[The real killer]

Guys, i play Crysis, when i saw Killzone 2 " this is killing my Crysis in all department. Much more movement in Killzone than in Crysis with great grafichs.

So, at the end Killzone 2 beat crysis in overal department :)

[Marquis_de_Sade]

Playing crysis on low settings doesn't count. I'm too poor to purchase a PC capable of running Crysis on max, but I have seen it running and it's quite incredible, but out of my reach. So for that reason, Killzone 2 is the best for me.

[GIJeff]

i have a pretty freaking beefy machine, and ive played crysis all the way through on max settings with 8xAA and i am straight blown away by kz2. Crysis, while looking really nice, depends on distracting you with scale rather than show detail. For instance, the "destructible" buildings in crysis are like card houses, and don't fall apart very naturally. The character models for the enemys are kinda weaksauce and fake looking. The only thing i really like about the graphics in crysis is how well the sun affects the environment. It's really cool to look at the trees with the setting sun behind them. But, all this said, kz2 has better models, lighting, animations, and "special effects". kz2 makes crysis look...empty.

[evrfighter]

"max settings with 8xAA"

specs?

[theox2g7]

@GIJeff

Yea these character models in crysis are weaksauce, They look so empty compared to killzone 2 and Crysis is just all scale and no detail and I really believe that you've played it and can run it maxed out with 8xAA when I very well know that even GTX 260's struggle to achieve that

You're so right, Crysis visuals suck, Just look at these screenshots for example, No detail, no art style at all, the character models are even worse, Killzone 2 is 10x better,

http://img441.imageshack.us...
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http://i156.photobucket.com...
http://www.abload.de/img/5x...
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http://www.abload.de/img/7e...
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http://img185.imageshack.us...
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http://img211.imageshack.us...
http://www.abload.de/img/00...
http://img352.imageshack.us...
http://img352.imageshack.us...

/sarcasm

[GIJeff]

a lot of the screens you put links to are from the detail mods, like the rough water. And i never said crysis is ugly, just empty. its hard to describe it really. Maybe its the giant jungle with like 3 animals that live there..i dont know. crysis is a great looking game, but no sane person can tell me it has better animations, sounds, effects, physics than kz2.

[Tacticity]

It does indeed surpass Crysis, its much more polished. The Halo killer is indeed ready. No wonder the xbots are miserable f!cks.

[Ashton]

technically it might not be as good as crysis on ultra high but the art design and the feel of the game makes up for it.

[BMS84]

Nerdbox , where s your answer??? I played the beta and is nicer than Crysis.. it looks stunning.. really..

[lelo]

Oh boy ... another blog. How can N4G accept every piece of crap article that comes out. I guess i have to write e blog and see if it comes to N4G.

As for the title "Killzone 2 surpasses Crysis"

In a low end PC it surpasses Crysis ... in a high end PC with a great resolution and all effects turned on and maxed out, Crysis looks better... no discussion.

Gameplay wise... looks like KZ2 is better.

[Ashton]

where as PS3 is only 399.

also it's not just killzone 2 that looks impressive,,,uncharted 2,Heavy rain,GOWIII they all look impressive as hell for a console game. you have to admit that PS3 is becoming really impressive and it's only 2 years old. imagine what they do when it's 4 -5 years old.

[FantasyStar]

The debate is which game looks better, not how much can you get for your buck. Just because you can get Killzone 2 at a cheaper cost than it takes to build a Crysis-worthy PC doesn't mean Killzone 2 and any of the other games you've listed looks better than Crysis. It just means you can play Killzone 2 with less complications.

[Ju]

Being is cheaper is a main argument here. I mean there is no denying that if money does not play a role you can always scale the PC to infinite power. It is an achievement on its own from Crysis to scale very well with the specs of the machine.

However, Sony built a machine back in 2006 with a fixed feature set which had to compete against these machines - with specs now available 2 years later. And KZ2 underlines how far ahead they were with that thinking.

SLI, multicore and GBs of RAM simply were not available at the time. To build something in a time where tech gets updated every 6 month, but insist on a life cycle of 10 years is a huge risk. You better come up with something special.

That we even have this discussion here is just a proof of concept. And still, today, the raw floating point performance of the CELL is unmatched by even today's 8 core / w/e GPU PC. Even high end. Now, this power has been utilized in a game the first time and it pretty much shows. Why do people simple talk this down?

Well, the only thing I can agree on, is that the RSX being a traditional GPU is no match for anything out on the market and thus limits the amount of pixels you can push out to the screen. But everything behind that is very much up to the task to compare to today's high end PCs.

[Rhoic]

No, the main argument here is which one looks better. The minute you pop in Killzone 2, it's maxed out. The minute you download Crysis, expect to see major changes over time.

[theox2g7]

You're wrong on many levels, While it is very very impressive Guerilla somehow used black magic as I believe to make such a piece of work called Killzone 2 run on the ps3, I mean the lighting and post processing alone blows all console games out of the water, No questions asked, That's their talent and their skill working on a 60 million budget, a large group and a longer development cycle, If you really want to draw straws and make staw man's arguments, We can also say it's unfair to compare them and that Crysis is better because it used only a third of Killzone 2's budget to produce the best visuals in the industry, It was just a bunch of few German guys with only a third of what Guerilla have and yet they made Crysis and remember pc games require a lot of effort when you're designing your game to scale for 1000s of systems out there rather than focusing on one system

The point I'm trying to make is the price argument shouldn't matter, Crysis runs on a $600 self built pc now, Of course a pc is always going to more expensive than a console, But remember a pc has to be more expensive because it does a million things more other than gaming that consoles can't do, So let's drop that "I'd like to see Crysis running on $300 machine from 2007" argument because it's just as stupid as me saying "I'd like to see your ps3 running vista with multitasking photoshop, office, studiomax and media center", A console is dedicated to gaming with less to no background services running as compared to pc, Of course, devs can squeeze more juice out of it power wise especially when they have to work with the same set of hardware and study it meticulously for years and years, If you really want to bring schematics into the argument, Crysis should be the clear winner here since it had to be designed with so many different machine architectures in mind yet it still delivers a lush detailed open world experience

[The Judderman]

The graphics aren't as good as Cyrsis. Everybody knows this but i think it will be a better game to play.

[ps12&3lover]

well both games are diffrent.k2 is a darker setting than cyrsis. its easier to say cyrsis looks better cuz its brighter and more appealing but i like the dark look.

[Jamaicangmr]

Technologically i'd have to go with yes. Crysis environments are beautiful to look at however apart from shooting down trees there really isn't much more. Killzone 2 environment give you a sense of how voilent Helgan is. Storm winds that actually affect play, environmental effects like dust and particles that are actually modeled in 3d and not just a 2 animation sprite like the blowing paper in COD4. Lighting that actually cast light i've only seen video's however the attention to detail is staggering.

Crysis is beautiful however Killzone 2 just show how much more Crysis needed. I mean no wind? You're on a damn tropical island got crap sake. lol!

[ostentatio]

Of course Crysis is superior graphics wise. Real-time ambient occlusion, better textures, higher poly count, day and night cycle, larger levels, real-time ambient maps, true HD, HDR lighting, parallax occlusion mapping, subsurface scattering, and so forth and on and on and on and...

[theox2g7]

And this is the same kind of ignorance that flies around here, How about I watch a few Killzone 2 videos and say you're stuck in the same war field for the entire game? Even in the tropical setting of Crysis, there are multiple variations of landscapes that give a unique feel to each of those levels, Not to mention the alien ship which is jaw dropping, the snow levels, the vtol airplane levels along with the final level on the ship,

Oh but how would you know? You've not even played the game yet you're so rash to judge from a few screenshots or videos you've seen, Come on, We all know Killzone 2 is going to redefine fps gaming on some level like Halo considering the ambitious things its trying to achieve, But let's leave Crysis out of this, It is a good game that is innocently getting bashed for no reason by people who haven't even played it, Don't believe me, Watch this and watch the hateful comments in this thread and see if their descriptions of Crysis matches the video

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[The Judderman]

Its nowhere near as good graphically as Crysis although it is good. It looks very much like COD but with better partical effects and ragdolls... very good but not mindblowing.

[Graphics Whore]

Says the Xbox 360 Fanboy, no one is going to take your comment seriously lol.

[monitor]

@graphics whore
says the ps3 fanboy. no one is gonna take his comment seriously in N4g because frankly 98% of u sony fanboy tools are here. Its ok tho, the world will speak if killzone 2 will do well or not.

[strickers]

people seem to be forgetting that the gametrailers hd footage is cam.Direct feed will look astonishing.Best looking console game ever.Is there still any doubt which consoles has the most grunt and that it is actually becoming available to devs for use?

[strickers]

sorry I forgot."looks like COD".you need to look again.

[Sanhlami]

Halo Killer Confirmed.

(not in sales, but in everything else)

[Rhoic]

Then it's not really a Halo killer. If Killzone 2 doesn't go mainstream and everyone knows about it like Halo and it's played 7-8 years later and still enjoyed, then no. When you refer to 'Halo Killer', you refer to:

Halo: Combat Evolved (5+million/Nov. 2005)
Halo 2 (8.46million/Nov. 2008)
Halo 3 (8.1million/Jan. 3 2008)

"Many game magazines have praised Halo as one of the best and most important games of all time. The game's popularity has led to labels such as "Halo clone" and "Halo killer", applied respectively to games either similar to or anticipated to be better than it."

By the way, I have Killzone 2 on reserve and have my demo code. Cant wait.

[spacetoilet]

Those Mech Walker thingies look AWESOME! I never seen those yet!
I bet there are tons more things we wont see till release though....

You know what really blows me away in this game? Just the animation of all the NPC's. Incredible. I love that motion blurring as well, looks real.

[The Judderman]

Like i said, the animataion and paricle effects are outstanding but the textures are of a COD standard. It looks better than COD but not as good as Cyrsis. Fanboys you really need to get some perspective. Its a great looking console game but not the best grpahics ever. Be pleased with what the fact it looks as good as it does and hopefully it will play as good as it looks.

[spacetoilet]

But some reporters have said that allot of up close textures have been improved since last build, but with crappy vids, it's hard too tell.
Going back to textures, my ati 4870HD says hello! (crysis is boring btw)

[The Judderman]

The textures are not as good on Killzone. There COD standard on Killzone but it does have amazing particle effects and lighting which makes it look better.

[PotNoodle]

http://www.psu.com/New-Kill...

http://ps3.psu.com/New-Kill...

These are just off the _ONLINE_ beta, and people with review code have said that they have improved so much, it is like comparing the pre-alpha code to the final code.

[Graphics Whore]

Oh man Judder, think before you speak buddy.

[a_cold_soul]

LMAO - that's all I can really say to that.

[Magic_The_Celt]

Well i wouldnt say that myself

but i can say with confidence and i dont think anyone who isnt a fanboy of some sort could disagree

There has never been graphics seen as good on any console game.

[ps12&3lover]

what about mgs4..that was the hottest looking game i have seen so far..but killzone just melts the eyes. finally a fps that acutally shows some realistic death..i love how they look when getting shot at..have not seen it done this good since golden eye for 64..

[The Judderman]

I will say though that Cyrsis as a whole i found boring and dull and Killzone will be the better game.

[The Judderman]

I agree its the best looking console game yet. I did find although Cyrsis looked great it was dull and boring. Killzone looks a lot more fun.

[Bunnyslippers]

technically it is in my opinion beyond any game on the PC. But the design and precentation is just very bland. Great 3D artists make a game look fantastic not some tech-geeks. It's clearly Guerilla Games has better artists than Cryteck.
It's funny that both developers are from neighboring countries.

[micro_invader]

That is probably one of the most epic videos I've seen.

[ps12&3lover]

its funny cuz my boy is a 360 lover cuz he says they make the best shooters..wait until he sees this..

[MGRogue2017]

On a ps3...?! lol, thats impossible. Nothing surpasses Crysis.. Yet.

[ps12&3lover]

he also told me he bought left 4 dead and found out theres really no story just pointless shooting..funny how you dont read any negative articles about that.

[Timesplitter14]

I got a virus when I clicked the link

:(

[ultimolu]

....HURRY UP JANUARY!

This game...holy sh*t, Sony/Guerilla has done it.

[360 man]

the way you guys are hping it u would expect it to sell at least 2 million week 1 and 6 million life time sales

[achira]

why do you always care for sales ? is this your last excuse ? boooriing... its your fault, that you cant play the best fps ever, only on ps3!

[ultimolu]

Sales doesn't make a game great.
Playing the game for yourself and determining whether it sucks or not determines a great game.

KILLZONE 2 AHOY!

[liquidsnake]

HAHAH look at this stupid @ss bots. It's official ladies and gentlemen. Sony and PS3 has won again. The amount of quality games on PS3 is nowhere to be seen and all the bots have left now is sales. I wonder how long it'll take until they run out of that too.

[eugenewatson]

WE UNDERSTAND 360 MAN, THAT XBOT CANNOT HANDLE THIS GAME, IT WOULD BLOW THE MEMORY, BUT IT WILL BE ALRIGHT OK MAYBE NEXT YEAR FOR THE XBOT720

[Torch]

OMG...LMFAO!

Here I am, for some unknown reason, sifting through these comments, and I just can't understand what the deal is with all you 360 guys and sales.

I think they have a term for that:

Grasping at straws.

And what's with that creepy avatar??? It in no way helps your already-pitiful, dying cause, and it sure as Hell ain't gonna help convince me to buy a 360.

Therefore, I beg you to please change your avatar already, and immediately refrain from sitting so close to your console to prevent further irreversible 3rd-degree heat damage to your already-disfigured face.

Please don't wait until your console's inevitable death as it may be too late by then, and may very well impact your neurological...

...Oh wait.

Never mind, carry on as you were.

Meanwhile:

ALL HAIL KILLZONE 2!!!

[kingboy]

Crysis the game might just be in the works for ps3 as we speak haha..anyway can`t wait for this masterpiece

[Daz]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
If you put this on a console it die :P

http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

http://aycu21.webshots.com/...

[Kleptic]

I agree that the killzone 2 engine most likely can't come close to some of those engine demos (of which are NOT in the game, thats just what you can do fooling around with the editor)...

but there are things that undeniably are not done in Crysis either...the overall lighting engine in killzone 2 trashes that of crysis...Crysis has the time of day change stuff, but thats it...Killzone 2 can have over 200 lights on screen at once, which are all 'real' lights...that create dynamic shadows around everything that they should...

the animation system absolutely wrecks crysis...enemy hit response isn't even comparable (watch that ballet of death video, and compare it to gameplay of crysis)...

Crysis is a dream come true for graphics whores that love staring at screen shots...you put the two in motion...and they both have very clear advantages over each other in certain areas...and thats saying something...killzone 2 is the ONLY game to have advantages in several major areas over Crysis...

[Strife Lives]

I'd like to see who has more multiplayer fun ,the guys that think Crysis is better,or the ones rocking out KZ2 MP! ! And weather or not Crysis looks better,if its doing 6 frames per sec on your setup,why does ur opinion on how it looks with a nuclear powered pc gpu count? kZ2 works the same everywhere.

[farhad2k8]

I think i jus had a orgasm!!
That was amazing!!!

[Crazywhitie]

I hope this is a Good game, The 10 Hours single player Hurts but what the hell... It's like watching a Super Great Movie but ends at 45 minutes... Single Player games need to go longer.. Online is fun but it gets old. not to many games have done Online Right.. Does KZ2 have Story mode Co-op??(this is a real question) I just hope it's not another hype machine like LittleBigPlanet

[Flipfito]

umm ill add Call of duty , resistance, Gears of war (yes i said it...is my opinion) , CRYSIS , Halo of course (i think gears of war is better than Halo) , and more just cant think right now

[jeenyus]

@Daz

Your PC fanboism goes through the roof.
I KNOW you can't compare Crysis with Killzone,but nobody plays a game for 3000 barrels exploding videos to post on YouTube for Christ's sake.

IMO,although feeling more low res than Crysis,KZ2 wipes the floor (or should) with Crysis' crappy Quake 1 gameplay + story.Crysis is the typical all graphics no gameplay crap Wii fanboys complain about.KZ2 feels more dynamic and far more of a cinematic experience.

No,I'm not part of the group Sony fantards on this site (not calling all of them,but there are plenty,reason I rarely ever post since some have the IQ of a doorknob),but what I say is truth.KZ2 seems like the smoothest game...while Crysis feels so stiff,nowhere near cinematic experience.

KZ2 will have a bigger fanbase than Crysis ever dreamt of.AND nobody will care to put 5000 barrels to explode a helghan city and jack off to that.It's entertainment not nerdtertainment. "OMG,I came watching Crysis lulz!"

[Erotic Sheep]

lolol, bubble for you <3

[snipermk0]

You're the real fanboy.. KZ2 hasn't even released and your waxing poetry about it calling it much better than a game that was released 2 years ago. Atleast play KZ2 first and then friggin comment.

[Daz]

i posted 3 links on one game and 1 pic and im called a pc fanboy give me a break.

So because i think a game is better then another im a fanboy right?

Also i wasnt talking about gameplay.

In the end its your opinion and if you think im a pc fanboy thats your problem not mine. I think crysis is a great game and killzone 2 will be. But you think killzone is a game from god and you wet you pants over a game thats up to you.

Also if killzone hasnt got a bigger fanbase then crysis theres a problem.

I didnt really say nothing in my first post and you start posting stuff im not even on about :P Wrong end of the stick.

[electricgta]

guys if you get a pop up when you go onto the HD one it is a virus please don't go on it. if you have made this mistake please scan your computer now it is a trojan worm.

[mll09]

LOL! That last comment was priceless! Bubbles.

[Yomiro]

the next gen starts 2/27/09

[THC CELL]

its funny daz i hear crisis is coming to ps3
not xbox

[Tiberium]

What is crisis? I know a Crysis, but no crisis.

[Daz]

But will it look as good on the highest settings has pc. think about it before you post.

[electricgta]

guys dont go on gametrailers i rekon it's been hacked, dont even type it into google as i still get the abrt connection ( trojan worm ) come up so guys if you have recently or yestaurday scan your pc NOW!

[Mad_Rhetoric]

ROFL, god its so funny it hurts

[sak500]

Yep just like KZ1 surpassed Halo2.

[Graphics Whore]

What does this have to do with this generation? Killzone 2 makes Halo 3 look like they're not even in the same generation.

[dcbronco]

He fell off the wagon again. He back to pure fanboy.

[free2game365]

Generic grey warzones aren't very inventive, it's been done too many times before. At least Crysis has color and a type of environment not seen before. It also destroys this garbage technically and gameplay wise. After all, Crysis is made by a good developer, not some 6.9 trash.

[REPLOID24]

Gears what? Unreal what? CRY NOW naysayers.

[trancefreak]

damn great compliment having killzone in the same league as crysis :)

[bobdog626]

Look's like im going to buy a PS3.This and Tekken made my mine up.All i need is a good RPG and im set.

[Ryuk]

No

[prejur]

Killzone 2 will be the prettiest turd in the history of gaming.

And it won't beat Crysis on Ultra. Sorry. The slow assed Graphics card of the PS3 can't compete with GTX280...not even in the same league and I don't give a crap how powerful the Cell is.

"Nathan Drake" ROFL says..."boom goes the dynamite"

N4G is absolutely pathetic because of people like you.

A linear, ON RAILS game like Killzone 2 looks great, SURE, just like an ON RAILS game like God of War 3 will look great. People try to compare ON RAILS console games to PC open world games with much more going on?

No comparison. You should be banned from the Internet for being ignorant.

And no matter how many of you Sony fanboys laud the PS3 it won't save the PS3 in the end...you know why? Because you're dumb little kids that live at home and don't have $ of your own to spend.

[Graphics Whore]

PC Fanboys are worse than Xbox/PS3 Fanboys?

Fact or fiction: _____

[liquidsnake]

Ooooooh, so that's the reason why PS3 will be doomed.

[LONEWOLF231]

Dude i dont know but, man this game looks insanely beautiful.
I mean damn look at the physics,Explosions and sounds....i wouldnt doubt it if this game leaves Crysis eating dust!

[metalhead]

Guys dont click on the video links my Avast virus protection found a virus in one no joke.

[iLemon]

I hope Killzone 2 looks better then Crysis. Crysis went gold in q3 of 2007 and Killzone is going gold in q1 of 2009. An entire GPU and CPU line have been released since development ended on Crysis. It's almost like it is current gen and the next gen of PC was just released.

[Mc187]

your mom cares how powerful the cell is.
j/k I couldn't help myself
Also most people do live at home I'll agree with you on that, but the rest of your comment makes you seem like the size of your pocket-protector is getting the best of your faculties.

[milesd6]

I'm sick of people trying to pass their opinions off as facts. What's up with all these dumb ass statements. Crysis runs on directx 10 and it used way better hardware. It looks like cgi when it runs on full settings. The cut scenes are beautiful, and they are better. The detail and physics are better. You can interact with everything from the bushes and trees, to all the vehicles and buildings. If killzone was on better hardware, it would surpass crysis, but it just doesn't. It's just doing different things than crysis. It is one of the most impressive games ever made, but it hasn't surpassed crysis. Damn it.

[AnttiApina]

Artistically, yes, technically Guerrilla has doen a great job a delivering so great looking game for consoles. Yet I still think that Crysis looks better:
http://i183.photobucket.com...
http://img374.imageshack.us...
http://img380.imageshack.us...

I mean holy moley! These pic always drops my jaw. But yes, I am going to buy Killzone 2.

[OOG]

same....but yeah killzone doesnt equal or pass these graphics...like come on these pics are almost photo realism...let alone it has the best lighting....and huge environments...not linear

but I to will be buying killzone

[AngryHippo]

....surpass Crysis in any way. Crysis physics and the jungle lighting on high settings are phenominal. Killzone is a stunning looking game, but it is not the best looking game out there, Crysis is. I think both screen shots, and video footage comparing the two should be enough to prove that. For a console title Killzone 2 is an incredible technical feat, so props to GG, and I for one cant wait to pick up day one.

[Rocky87]

This game is so overrated. This is unbelievable.
It is really a very good game. No one doubts that either, but it is definitely not as good as many people here appreciate. The graphics in Crysis are better. That is clear. And Gears of War 2 can also keep up with it. So do not run blindly into a minefield. Still the game was not published. The gameplay is pretty boring. The brilliant draft in the game is missing. It looks so artificial. In a few months, it is also just a game, which you have played. Call of Duty 6 will easily eat Killzone 2 for breakfast.

[SDS Gamerfiend]

All of the stories saying that The XBOX 360 AND PS3 couldn't do Crysis?! With enough time devs can hit Crysis and beyond on both the 360 and PS3! On another side note, I went and pre-ordered my copy of Killzone 2 at Gamestop and got my demo code. I thought that I would be playing the demo that day only to have my feelings hurt when I read and saw that it doesn't start until 2/5/09 LOL!

[OOG]

better looking then crysis...um no... but that doesnt mean killzone doesnt look amazing....

But if you compare videos of fighting in the jungle in crysis in DX10 with trees etc breaking and falling over etc...then there is no real comparison....also the insane draw ranges etc of crysis kinda put it in its own league.....

but all in all Killzone looks great!.....but its not better looking then the best looking game on the pc.....the best looking console game will never pass the best looking pc game......

[Graphics Whore]

There's a difference between something looking visually more appealing than knowing something is more technical.

Crysis look's good no doubt, but for PS3's hard ware and how fluent it all comes together is priceless.

[OOG]

theres also something in this article called surpassing crysis....and technically and visual it doesnt.... the physics in Crysis are some of the best as well and the visual aspects of the game.....

Killzone looks great but shouldnt be even thought of as being better in the tech aspect as crysis.

But yes for what they have done on the ps3 it is quite impressive but so was mgs4

But these articles will pop up regardless because the game websites etc...dont really post news very often...so they need to write about something..

[Ju]

Sorry I disagree. Just because you can pimp the resolution and AA doesn't mean its superior in the number of collisions it calculates. Fact is, we haven't played KZ2 yet. We compare videos here. From a technical aspect, KZ2 is mind boggling. To just achieve this on a console is incredible. However, I'd like to see hard facts from a developer to compare these technical achievements. Everything else is an opinion.

I my opinion, the sheer number of calculations done in KZ2 is something people would have said is not possible according to the specs of the machine. Well, seams they were wrong. The polycount is unlike anything we have seen on any console yet, and is comparable to high end PC titles. Just because the RSX can handle that, doesn't mean, the PS3 can't produce it. See, this has now been proven before, the render pipeline in the PS3 starts at the CELL, not the RSX.

Its hard to compare the two games. Its just so much of a different environment. You'd need to compare Cryis, with uh, Crysis, the closest on a console is FC2, which looks like C64 compared to KZ2 (yes, I have FC2, and I am somewhat disappointed, but it is what you'd expect from a console title). FC2 with the KZ2 engine, well, then we could start talking.

I would hope Crytek is inspired by KZ2 and ports Cryis (or whatever they have in the pipeline) to the PS3 and tries to surpass KZ2. Then we can really have a direct comparison.

From a technical pov I say every SW engineer is just "WTF, how did they do it?" and feels the need to prove they can do that, too. If the companies let them do this, we will see some great titles coming down the road.

[Obama]

killzone2 makes halo3 looks like a children game.

[Varsarus]

Even Resistance 2 rips that game apart.

[Mc187]

Halo IS a children's game

[mastiffchild]

Look chaps, there's an inherant problem with all these comparison pieces we have to suffer-we all have our opinion but until we all have the two games running on the same exact set up they're pointless. How can you compare Crysis running on a monster PC with a quality HD monitor to Killzone2 on a PS3 trailer off GT? It's pointless yet we seem constantly to bog ourselves down supporting or denying someones blog claims, why?
I can play Crysis at a really good lick with no pop in or slow down(sadly not everyone could which made Crysis a bit of a sad story for many gamers. I even updated my cards to play it and seeing how much that cost and hardly any other games need the stuff I bought to run well I feel pretty daft right now(I see the PC game market being much more egalitarian after the Crysis debacle as well but I really wanted o be amazed by the game I'd heard so much about)-but I was blown away by the physics of the game and the movement of the vegetation when you shipe through it, individual branches and stuff moving independently with every stimulous is something I'll never forget.
However, Killzone2 is a very different set up altogether. They turned down some of the reality in the game to go with some arcadey touches(for instance with the death animations they went with extra blood and hit detection then reeled it back in on the physics to use more mo-cap so the bodies didn't end up twisted in mad poses-even though that's what would happen because it didn't look how people expected and therefore even though it was more "real" folks perception would be that it wasn't)so to compare cross platform on a different game is meaningless. Developers make choices about what to keep in for the overall experience and here the completely different worlds make some of the best stuff from Crysis into things irrelevant or unwanted in KZ2. Yes Crysis has some veru impressive technical figures and you can't argue with those but what looks best to the human eye isn't always governed by this. As I said sometimes if we don't expect something we reject it as fake even though it might be very realistic and devs take this into hand when making deecisions over which details to enhance in their games and which to ignore.
Can't we all agree that both games use the tools at their disposal to very cool and great effect for us, that they're very different but both give us very real feeling worlds in which to run and gun?
Honestly , the way I look at it is that KZ2 is doing for console shooters pretty much what Crysis tried to for PC ones- to take them to the next visual level and on those scores both games succeed very well.
They both look amazing lets just leave it there and enjoy the goddam shooing. Crysis Warhead sucked for me though-big let down after the first game, then again being English I find Psycho's accent really annoying and ladelled on. Soz for the rambling dog dirt I spouted here.

[OOG]

lol....hard to read but very valid points.....

next time just try to break it into paragraphs tho...hurt the eyes lol

[n4gzz]

so much hype around this game. I am little scare. What if you can't flush toilet on kz2 (-1) score there.

[xtreampro_REVENGE]

i have found out that the DEFAULT version of Crysis looks like crap, it only looks good on HD monitors with over powered Gaming Rigs, in other words Crysis it self was made for upgrades, at least Killzone 2 looks better then crysis, without Crysis using cheats to look good, and i am 100% sure that if killzone 2 came out on PC and if that game had texture mods, then it will completely destroy Crysis on its uber very high settings, and people make it sound like as though crysis has ove 1million settings or something, some say its they get it to run crap, then average, then on good, realy good, very good, very very good, very very good, even better then very very good lol, Good Lvl2.0 (LMAO), after a whole lot of good settings there comes High, realy high, good realy realy high, extremely realy realy good high, uber UBER UBER!!!!! EXTREMELY REAL GOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!! H I G H !!!, ULTRA UBER XTREMELY VERY VERY VERY GOOD HIGH's of ALL HIGH's (lol), thers oly 3 settings lol on every computer or 4, normale, good, high and very high, and whats funy is even with all these settings KZ2 still stands up to it lol

[xg-ei8ht]

Hmm let me see.

Ok i've got it.

Crysis and Killzone 2 are two completely different games running in two completely different locals.

Could Crysis be done on PS3, How good would it look, From what i've seen of killzone2 and some character models and textures from uncharted as well, plus the foilage and lighting in motorstorm 2, then i'd have to say it would look very good indeed.

Sure there would be texture differences and a lower rez with maybe x2aa.

Not everything is destructable in crysis warhead.

Trees are, some shack type buildings etc.

The reason the sandbags are killzone 2 don't get blown away is purely a gameplay reason, and has nothing to do with being a technical problem.

I've played crysis on a high end rig, and yes it does look stunning in places, would i compare to real life. NO. Would i compare KILLZONE2 to real life NO.

But both look very good.

[Dmack79]

Killzone 2 surpasses gears of bore 1.5, crysis, and even uncharted by leaps and bounds in all areas!!!!

Killzone2 > everything else. EVERYTHING.

[QQcrybaby]

Honestly from what I can see so far Crysis is superior technically. Need to actually play KZ2 first before I can be sure though. Question is how can the PS3 hope to stand against a far more powerful GTX 280?

[QQcrybaby]

I would like to add that this does look better than anything else on console. When you start comparing to PC though, it's always an uphill battle for aging tech consoles.

[kickaski]

i'm totally perturbed because anyone who has actually played Crysis knows it isn't any fun and the graphics are all lame quantity; it looks sterile and dull. The bullshots of the game look nice, but so do the bullshots for Red Steel.

i'm gonna go outside now. >_<

[kickaski]

Photorealism is a weak goal. reality is all around us, we need a stylistically brilliant experience.

[electricgta]

lol the only game i can compare to real life is gran turismo 5.
killzone 2 and crysis are brill in their own way

[ZILLA]

this wiil become the benchmark that games will have to look like or they will fail.so in that case xbox has officaly been outdated.and just to let you know this is just the start,GOD OF WAR 3,UNCHARTED 2,INFAMOUS and the real killer H E A V Y R A I N !

[ostentatio]

I guess we can all agree that Ferro the blogger is a retard for bringing this up not providing any factual information whatsoever. He claims that KZ2 surpasses Crysis yet he didn't post anything about the latter. No video or numbers - anything. I think its a lame comparison if you exclude a participant. I presume he is a happy owner of a devkit and measured texture resolutions, polycount, number of destructible objects of both etc and will post it soon otherwise someone might take him for an idiot.

[dcbronco]

He has pretty much always been full of it. He's just a PS3 fanboy. Unfortunately he has enough PS3 fanboys to tell him he actually knows what he's talking about so he continues to write is crap.

Hopefully for Sony all the fanboy dreams come true. If this game goes LBP and the sales are slow and an extra million PS3s don't sell next month, Sony's stock price is going to fall through the floor. And all the denials in the world won't be able to keep Sony from cutting people and parts of the company. Much like Halo made the original Xbox, Sony needs this game to sell volume and consoles. It's over 2 million copies of the game and an extra Wii-like console sales for the month or Sony is screwed.

[TABSF]

just shows u how many fanboys and n00bs there is in the world

crysis looks way better than killzone 2
killzone 2 is just an improvement on fac cry 2 (ps3 version) in terms of graphics and people far cry 2 on ps3 is like playing far cry 2 at the lowest settings on PC. far cry 2 on pc with max settings does not match crysis on medium never mind ultra high, modded configs or even warhead

saying killzone 2 is better looking than crysis in terms of graphics is the same as saying the nintendo gamecube has better hardware than the PS3

fanboy a side people i have seen killzone 2 beta first hand and got crysis, warhead and wars
i have got al theses systems at the moment a NGC, PS2, XBOX, PS3, Wii, 360, PSP and a PC that owns the 360 and PS3 put together
all together with 500+ games

[JonahFalcon]

In a word, idiocy. I wonder if the CHILDREN on N4G understand the difference between a console and a PC?

Please, save us from console fanboy kiddies who have almost no understanding of software development.

[Demonxx]

absolutely killzone 2 simply kick ass crysis

[Sasanova]

ladies and gentleman....welcome to the power of the cell hahahaha

[JHUX]

Whether it compares to crysis graphically or not, those videos sure did make me want KZ2 asap!

[fashionfreakj86]

You all obviously havent played crysis on dx10 3-way sli on ultra high settings with natural mod in it. Its so realistic you feel like youre actually in the jungle about to be attacked by koreans. Especially with the god rays...oh my god....its so amazing.

http://gamevideos.1up.com/v...

Reasons why crysis is better:

It keeps looking better with the more amount of hi end graphics cards you have

Monitors have higher resolution

Its a free roaming environment, like a first person sandbox game

you can put mods which you cant do in the ps3 or consoles

Lots of ways to play and kill enemies and accomplish missions, you can run over enemies, go invisible for stealth, shoot them, throw items, etc.

You can make multiplayer and single player map mods

physics is way better..look at the million barrel explosion editor, teh ps3 cant handle that.

[Rocky87]

you're right man. Crysis graphics are still outta control.

[devilhunterx]

even with all that tech, Crysis fails in

1) A.I.

2) Story

3) Characters I would care about

4) Fun gameplay

5) Innovation

Also paying so much money for a dull game. uh no thanks.

[JonahFalcon]

No, it "fails" because you think PS3 > the Universe.

Get over your console fanboy self.

[Marceles]

seriously...please find your way to get your hands on a PC with DX10 and put Crysis on max settings, hell..put it on only all High Settings. Killzone 2 might be the best looking console game ever made, but being technically equal to Crysis or having the nerve of saying "surpasses" is totally ignorant. I commend what Killzone is doing from a console standpoint, but in reality Crysis still sits on top as the overall most technically sound game made.

And then there's people in this thread that are saying "well...if Crysis was put on PS3 I'm sure Killzone would look better". Haha damn right it would, you'd have to downgrade Crysis, a game reliant on using a PC, to work with PS3. No game turned into a multiplatform thats put on the PC and with consoles will look better than the PC version. Please buy a high end damn PC so you'll see what everyone is trying to tell console-only owners. If you haven't seen Crysis, I mean really SEEN Crysis how it should be seen and you put your settings on baby mode with low textures and no visual effects, then don't even say anything.

I loooove my PS3 and stand up for it 99.9%, but Crysis is the one game...the .1% in terms on graphics that I'll have to stand on the PC side for. I remember a few months back there was an actual thread of Uncharted vs. Crysis, and I couldn't even argue with PS3 fanboys that Crysis looked better than that. It's deja vu all over again...find a PC, find Crysis, put in on Max settings, shoot a barrel, look at the god rays of the sun, shoot every tree down in the forest until it looks like a bulldozer came through, shoot a tree at a specific point on the tree and see how it breaks at that the place you shoot it, go underwater, throw a guy into another guy but before you do...take a long hard look at the detail on the guy's face that you throw, throw him off the mountain into the ocean, jump off the mountain and follow the guy to the ocean...nothing touches Crysis I'm sorry lol

[Consoldtobots]

God knows, we couldn't have a $500 max rig, doing things better than the silicon palaces the PC industry sells to graphics enthusiasts for thousands of dollars. Makes you wonder what people are really arguing against here.

[thehitman]

A COMMERCIAL IN ALL COUNTRIES SPAMMED 24/7 ON EVERY CHANNEL SONY U FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

Also yes this game shyts on Crysis.... Idk about w/ the mods but regualar crysis on mid-high KZ2 is as good if not better and it looks crazy more fun. They also shytted on Battlefields horrible destructibility (Could slice break down a wood fence with a knife).

[devilhunterx]

It already surpases Crysis in :

1) Story

2) Memorable Characters

3) A.I.

4) Music

Graphics... maybe.

So 4/5 isnt bad. Right?!

[JonahFalcon]

Um, what? Glad to see you've played it.

Wonder if this console spamboy remembers how badly Killzone 1 flopped.

[Xi]

Have you seen the AI in killzone... to me it's the game's biggest blemish, every video I see, none of the AI characters seem to have any intelligence.

[devilhunterx]

Playing Killzone Liberation right now.

[mac4u10]

god this game is going to make me cum all over my PS3 and TV

[PS360PCROCKS]

ew?

[Xi]

some people need their eyes, and ears checked.

[JonahFalcon]

And their brains.

I guess they think Crysis had bad graphics because they tried to play it on their 1.2 ghz single core PC with some 256MB RAM graphics card they got for $75.

[byaaface]

yeah this story is pretty absurd. i think this story will only hurt killzone's reputation and cause a whole lot of senseless bickering.

[Consoldtobots]

a quad core pc with 4gb of DDR3 ram and a 8800GTX and still think Killzone matches and even surpasses Crysis on many levels. BTW I can run Crysis at 16QXX at around 15-20 fps. Not great but my machine is no slouch either.

Stop inventing strawmen so you can make your argument look good. No one in their right mind is talking about 10 year old pc's.

[PS360PCROCKS]

HA! I'm sorry Killzone 2 looks phenomonal, but no way in hell is it even close to CRYSIS, I've seen it ran on some VERY high end PC's and it's unbelievable. Check out this vid, if you think KZ2 looks better than this you're dreaming. disagree away...

http://www.gametrailers.com...

[Sasanova]

crysis has great graphics...but again, measuring crysis on highest setting isnt fair because it takes alot of hardware upgrades. if this was the case, then upgrading the ps3 to about 3 more cell proccesors to polish and run killzone 2 would be an equal comparison... again, you measure crysis graphically by the standard, not by its full potential and hardware WHICH ISNT INCLUDED with the game...if you look at the difference from preview code and review code of killzone 2, you will notice the difference it was made with only 2 short months...imagine what extra hardware would do to its graphics...

[hack]

I'v playes killzon2 and I have Crysis too i think there is no game surpasses Crysis really no kidding

[Sasanova]

and plus, crysis isnt anything other then graphics...yes the game is good, but the AI isnt super good, sound is mediocre at best, and presentation is just poor...you cant possibly compare crysis to killzone when its run on my 60 inch liquid HD with 7.1 surround sound...no way in hell

[byaaface]

I want Killzone sooo bad... but THIS is not the kind of news i want to see... all it does is cause stupid flame wars and overhype the game to an impossible level(since crysis on its highest level that requires a crap load of hardware stuff is really unfair vs. just a console). D:<

Still tho... Killzone does look really REALLY nice! :D

[Blackcanary]

The guy on fire looked so life like its just the way he was moving around.

[Blackcanary]

the Intro to KillZone 2 Looks unbelieveable i never seen an intro looking like a scfi Movie that good before.

[Brock Danger]

I want the number for the guy who gets you guys the stuff you're smoking, cause I want to be able to think KZ2 is graphically and (this is the truly amazing part)gameplay wise a superior experience to Crysis.

Granted, Crysis' campaign is crap on fire, but I don't think you guys have being paying any attention to everything that's come out about the campaign, let alone the fact that the game is what all you jackasses have complained about a million times before. ONE MAN FIGHTING AN UNSTOPPABLE ALIEN FORCE THAT CONSISTS OF ONE TYPE ENEMY IN DARK, GREY TUNNELS. An as several "keen" observers have noted, the AI seems to positively retarded, let alone the fact that they are seemingly suscebtible to becoming instant rag-doll 2.0/parkinson's victims after a bullet strikes them.

After KZ2 comes out, maybe we can all jump on the Hale-bopp comet!

[AriesFury]

You buy what you want. Crysis and KZ2 are two different games on two different platforms.

[Don_Frappucino]

Thats complete crap. Prettiest turd? What's that all about? Wont save PS3 in the end? Last i heard it wasn't the console gaming industry that was in decline. As for your comment about the 'ON RAILS' factor of Killzone and God of War 3, sure they may be linear, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Killzone 2 will have any less going on in it.

[Varsarus]

Friends, I've been saying stuff about OpenGL Mount Evans all this long and right now it's incorporated into the PS3 and KZ2 will be the first game to showcase it, then games after that will follow, it's a major update that brings in DirectX 10 effects and a whole lot more, now the RSX was designed to support OpenGL to it's fullest extent, prepare to witness the PS3's true power, starting with KZ2!!!

[Sasanova]

PC fanboys pissed as fuk right now rofl

[Xi]

I think most ps3 fanboys are just delusional about killzone 2.

Or have never seen or played crysis at full settings.

[Ju]

Ha ha. I think that hit somebodies nerves :)

[Kurylo3d]

This article is a joke. Cryengine 2 is the most advanced game engine out there. Killzones game engine doesnt have a thing on it... besides the fact that ps3 its like 4 or 5 generations of graphics card behind what crysis needs to run at very high.

[Brock Danger]

I'm not much of a PC gamer anymore, unfortunately, but I still have enough friends who are to know that he's completely right. Or at least as right as anyone can be when you're comparing a graphical titan/gameplay retard to "HD" videos on gametrailers.

Also, wtf with that one guy on the roof who gets shot about 5/8ths of the way through the ragdoll 2.0 video?

[Gue1]

Isn't this a blog anyway?

[mll09]

On rails games are crap?

Think about every decent shooting game this gen, and all of them are on rails so you can STFU noob.

Killzone 2 is the best looking console game this gen, so stop trying to belittle and just accept that will trump almost anything with its graphics.

I tell you one thing that KZ2 has that Crysis doesn't.

Real time bullet physics. Everything else, they equal each other.

So...that means KZ2 is better in technical prowess.

And you guys should really stop getting off at Crysis.

[evrfighter]

real time bullet physics...lol

you don't bring bullets to a nuke fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[fashionfreakj86]

You can always mod the A.I. like the super hard A.I. mod for crysis ...you can virtually mod everything in crysis with a bit of a little know how. Theres even a mod to put the Portal gun in Crysis.

watch this:

http://gamextract.com/?p=24...

[Brock Danger]

difficulty, it's the obnoxious "shoot you from across the map even though you were hiding under a bush with a nano-suit and i'm a poorly trained mercenary" syndrome.

There's an acronym for it but it's actually longer.

[Kurylo3d]

lol crysis u dont even need to be a programmer to mod it... it can be modded with scripting... where most game engins ud have to recompile everything. Though to be honest... that is probably what killed crysis multiplayer...game was hot before every server was modded with some rediculous thing like c4 cant hurt infantry.. or every gun is free including nukes.

[SixAmpFuze]

good its time that 3billion dollar cell chip paid off GG

[aiphanes]

One for graphics and one for everything else....

[aiphanes]

I wish Halo 3 looks as good as Killzone 2....man what happened to microsoft in the first person shooters?

[SixAmpFuze]

why would you wish halo looked this good. What would some extra textures do for the great gameplay halo has already. Graphics are great but they dont make a game better.Its just cosmetic

[Kyur4ThePain]

We might as well have stayed with the XBOX and PS2.

[xtreampro_REVENGE]

killzone 2 allready shows a nuke exploding in one of the real time cutscenes, HA IN YOUR FACE IDIOT!!!.... and the developers said the cutscenes are all real time

[evrfighter]

.../epic facepalm, clearly you fell through the cracks of the no child left behind law.

cod4 has a nuke exploding using real time cutscenes. But thats not what I'm getting at you dolt.

This video is showing you nuke physics WITHOUT cutscenes. ITS ENTIRELY IN GAME. Meaning no two blasts will ever be the same.

[jeanm3306]

would someone put a crysis comparison video with killzone 2 when it come out.

[OGharryjoysticks]

The blu-ray disc is allowing for Killzone levels where there are obscene ammounts of details crowded in the environment and that's what is wowing the media about the graphics.

[xwabbit]

This game is just 2 pro :/

[Playa7970]

stop posting screenshots, videos of crysis the game blowssss....... sorry but killzone will own this generation!!!! cry me a river build a bridge and get over it

[Yomiro]

Good thing that this game is being compare to a powerful pc (crysis) game and a CG movie and not to x360 game

[xg-ei8ht]

killzone 2 said to the six axis, are you ready to rumble!!!!

[DaddyDC650]

Killzone 2 IS the new HOTNESS!!!

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Wow! Big props to GG and I hope the rest of the industry pays attention because console FPS bar is about to go way up!

[Brock Danger]

i'm using my fourth bubble! Kudos to those who disagree with this fact.

[theox2g7]

What's with all the Crysis bashing? I know Crysis isn't the end be all of fist person shooters and all and it does have its fair share of problems, but Killzone 2 isn't perfect either(Probably means 200 disagrees on n4g), Both games are amazing nonetheless

I bet most of you here are spiting Crysis just for hating sake, I also bet 80% of the people who are here sh1tting on its gameplay saying it is dull and boring or that it sucks haven't even touched or played the game, I don't think anyone who has beat Crysis single player no matter how much they hated it can come out and honestly say it was anything remotely close to boring, They may have unique things to critique like the bullet impacts, inconsistent AI and some few other issues, And the game does have an art style, though Killzone 2 exceeds it in that department, I'm sure some of you don't even know Crysis has other levels that depict atmospheres other than jungles, Spoiler: Inside the alien ship, how can you play that part of the game and come back to me that the game looks dull or has no artstyle, No matter how much of a fanboy you are or how much you hate pc gaming, Your jaws will drop at seeing or better yet playing those levels in person, Youtube videos and screenshots do the game no justice, Neither do unsubstantiated fanboy rumors like the one going around in the comments section about how it sold 86k in its first, That's totally misguided, The game sold 86k in its first 2 weeks according to the NPD who only track PC US sales at retail, Apart from the fact that US sales form a very small chunk of overall pc sales, aren't you ps3 fans the same people who banish NPD because they only measure? Yet it is a good litmus to measure a pc game, Funny thing is 2.5 weeks after those horrible NPD results came in, EA themselves announced that the game had gone platinum with 1 million sales worldwide in less than 50 days, I don't see how that is a failure especially when LBP is crazily defended for pulling similar figures and the fact that both games are new franchises, But the only difference is there were more people who could play LBP as compared to people who could run Crysis at the time, Yet they sold just about the same, Even Cevat Yerli confirmed the game brought in profits and that it toppled 2 million,

But back to my point, most of you haven't even played Crysis and if you fall within that group, Watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

or better yet in hd

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

And seriously tell me that after watching that video, you still think crysis is dull and boring or uninspired or that its gameplay sucks, Or that its graphics are bland or whatever kind of slander you guys have for that game, Why do I use this video? It's because that's how Crysis is meant to played, Anyone can make a crappy video of Killzone 2 and make the gameplay look boring

Rant over

[Brock Danger]

A person making a believable argumant and it's for...gasp...the PC?!?! Am I on N4G?

I just used my fifth bubble. Quick, someone write an incoherent blog about it and submit it to N4G!

[Figboy]

unfortunately, Crysis just wasn't a very good FPS (i HAVE played it, and honestly, i thought it was decent. not horrible, not bad, but just decent).

i was in the KZ2 beta, and the multi-player at least is pretty frigging good.

from what i've seen of the KZ2 single player campaign, it seems like it's going to be at the least as good as the KZ1 single player, which was actually quite good, despite what many folks who haven't played it choose to believe. what i'm saying is, the KZ2 single player will be good.

i don't feel like getting into a graphical debate concerning KZ2 and Crysis, but the fact that there even IS a debate concerning this is telling enough, and i prefer the art design of KZ2 over Crysis personally. but that's just my OWN opinion.

i like the feel of the character and weapons in Killzone 2 over Crysis also. the setting in Crysis may be the jungle, and it looks AMAZING, but to me, KZ2 feels more real. Crysis feels like every other PC FPS title - super fast movement and twitch like response times, which, truthfully, isn't very realistic; if other PC games didn't have the same quick response feel, and "floaty" feel to their characters, then i would by that it's because the character in Crysis is an enhanced super soldier. unfortunately, everything from Half Life 1 & 2 (both brilliant games, by the way), to Left4Dead to Crysis ALL feel the same on a PC mouse and keyboard setup.

Killzone 2 (and 1 actually), genuinely feel unique from ANY FPS i have ever played in regards to control, whether on PC or console.

i'm pretty burned out on FPS titles, truth told, and aside from Resistance 2 co-op, after KZ2 comes out, i may have to take a hiatus from the FPS genre and go back to my TRUE favorite genres; Action/Adventure and RPGs.

[Playa7970]

man i cant wait for this game...............

[djtek184]

Its embarrassing to compare K2 with crysis. There is nothing out now that can compare to K2.

[slyrunner]

what you really need to compare is a high end gaming machine and a ps3, you have to look at it this way, kz2 is ran on a certain engine that give these wonderful and super sexy visuals that fit just for the ps3,Guerrilla stated that they r only using about 60% of the cells power to mantain whit the visuals,frames,and physics and all that good stuff.but when you look at crysis, it brings high end (like mine) gaming pc down to their knees, i have a [email protected],and 3 9800gts in sli mode and 3 gigs of ram,and you know what?, i only get around 49-54fps,and then,for some reason,when i step into the island with a huge explosion in the background,you'll 36fps dropped down from an avg of 50.why is that?,its becuz crysis is a standalone benchmark and nothing else,its ram and power hungry,with a amazing visuals added,and killzone cant be used as a bench mark becuz it doesnt seem to stress out the system,but yet,its a benchmark to other gaming consoles like the 360 and wii becuz they cant achieve amazing graphics that sony's amazing black monster can dish out.but yeah, in other words,killzone 2 is a amazing piece of art work,but crysis has and always will be a number one benchmark who pc gamers will want to test while they plug in there new set of hardware in there system

[Sasanova]

what u noobs are forgetting is that ur arguing a PC game at its highest to a ps3 game...isnt that enough for killzone 2 to win?? kinda like saying an ant is the strongest being on earth, being able to lift objects dozen times it body weight...Killzone 2 will rock!

[whatis]

In graphics? No it doesn't.

But it looks damn good for a console game.

[Bullseye]

Blog doesan't interest me at all, but boy some of your dellusional comments do! Ever heard the saying 'you can't make a silk puse of of a pigs ear' ? Well, you guys have proved that adage wrong,well done.

[funkysolo]

You do know that your $260 only gets you a core 360 and gears, but gears without multiplayer is an average game and that means no bang so you might want to redo your calculations and add $50 live for 4 or 5 years..So PS3 $400 and killzone2 $60 that's $460..Xbox 360 $300(the core is crap who are you really kidding? gears $60, xboxlive $50 5 years $250 that's a total $610...xbox live is not optional because the competion gets it free...But we can say core and we don't need xbox live, but only if you have a core only no hd and you dont have live, but we both know you do, so why is pro 360 and live only good for you and not everyone else.....360 is not options because the competition offers standard, that's just a low class product...360 is like a pay as you go phone product, it's like the ghetto version of electronics, do you people really think you are getting a bargain? But be happy with you product, stop trying to justify your purchase and live with your choice. I don't go on 360 news, because I don't own a 360 anymore so why would I care so much about what other people are playing or buying...You 360 fans are funny

[Phinatic8u]

The only reason people are saying that crysis looks better than Killzone 2 is because it takes 2,000 $ to be able to enjoy it at full settings, but to think that Guerillia made a graphical powerhouse on a console is incredible.

I own a 360, a ps3, and a 2,000$ PC so ive played Crysis, Gears, and Killzone 2 beta
and from my expierences the BETA yes the BETA of Killzone looked better than both Gears and Crysis, Think about it if Crysis was on a console or could be played on normal PCs then the game would be average. the story was ok the only reason it was higlhy regarded was the graphics.
Killzone 2 is better looking for the fact that its on a console that you dont need to put 2-5k into to be able to run it properly. & another thing is that Guerillia is only using 60% of the ps3's power, so that means at 100% of the ps3's power the games will basically be recored shows on a tv LOL. Crysis will be a memory of 2007 greatness LOL

[zanthox]

Someone actually said this? and people actually listened? really? He doesn't even use a spellchecker wiht any value for his articles.
I am looking forward to killzone2 as much as the next ps3 guy, but lets keep our heads on.