Xbox CFO Tim Stuart discussed the application of AI gaming, the acquisition of Activision Blizzard, Game Pass, and how Microsoft measures success in gaming.
"Stuart explains that Xbox's mission is to bring its first-party experiences and subscription services to every screen that can play a game. That means smart TVs. That means mobile devices. That means what we would have thought as competitors in the past, like PlayStation and Nintendo."
Third party train has arrived in the station. Ready to depart console business when next gen happens. Basically microsoft is ditching xbox asap and going all in with gamepass
In the article I feel they de-emphasized GamePass as being their sole focus. Still interested in selling using traditional approach as well.
Xbox fans are going to get what they kept cheering for despite other gamers raising the red flag and warning them at every turn. **Although you really cannot believe anything MS says. Literally flipping every comment on its head has often been a good indication of the truth when it comes to MS.
"Basically microsoft is ditching xbox asap and going all in with gamepass" You delusional bunch never get tired and got yourselves disappointed. We been hearing all this "Xbox is going to leave the console business and go full third party" bs since Xbox started to release its games on PC. And yet, both Playstation and Epic are getting a total of zero Xbox first party games while a next gen Xbox console powered by hybrid technology leaked by FTC documents is already in development to be released in 2028. XD So you people can be mad as you want, but those are the *facts*! Quit the port begging already, because Playstation ain´t getting no games from Xbox in the foreseeable future. Period! Do what you do
Lol you mean this Tim Stuart. https://wccftech.com/xbox-b... Where he alluded that Starfield and other Bethesda titles could arrive first or "better on Xbox" which ultimately never happened. He's a business strategist he doesn't have final say. He formulates business plans and strategies and suggestions. Phil has final say in these things. Games like Minecraft and certain Bethesda games Deathloop and Ghost Wire, COD and a few others will get support on PS and Nintendo of course. This is no sign or indication of third party for all its games I know you guys are twitching for it hard tho. Because of fanboyism.
This realy feels like Xbox is ready to become third party. Not necessarily kill Xbox consoles, but kill exclusivity.
Xbox games are going to get even shi#$%&.
"Xbox games are going to get even shi#$%&." Well, If true, then future Playstation games are also f*cked. "AAA games have gone from taking teams of 50 people two years to make to now sometimes taking teams of hundreds of people more than ten years to make," Raymond said." "At Haven, one way we are evolving to improve our production processes is through investing in R&D around generative AI and machine learning, in the belief these technologies will eventually help game developers reverse that trend, and unlock more creativity from developers and players alike." https://www.techradar.com/g...
"Well, If true, then future Playstation games are also f*cked." History has shown that PlayStation can offer some good quality entertainment along with jank. MS, however, does not have this reputation. *Obscure: I know you mean well, but I don't click on links in forums.
"History has shown that PlayStation can offer some good quality entertainment along with jank. MS, however, does not have this reputation." We´re talking about the *future* here, dude. Nothing is set in stone. Until Phil Spencer take over, Xbox had only 5 first party studios, now Xbox has 39. Until Ryan Playstation had 13 first party studios, now they have 19. Oddly tables had turned and now Xbox first party mainly focus is single player and RPG games while Playstation main focus is GaaS and remasters. Which one will be successful in its endeavors and vision, no one can tell.
"We´re talking about the *future* here, dude. Nothing is set in stone." The only way we can predict the future is via observation and previous knowledge. Therefore, in this case it looks to be inevitable that MS Xbox gaming will continue to get worse.
"Success for us is we can keep growing that content and services revenue double-digits. [...]. If we can grow faster than the market is growing, we are taking share in the gaming market. And that's where we want to be. It's a 250 billion dollar market. We are not 250 billion dollars." Their goal is a monopoly
It wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft shift from a console to an amazon firestick sort of device that can be plugged into a tv/monitor and connected to a controller. It shifts them out of the console business, keeps them on their path of providing gamepass to devices.
I agree. It may sound strange, but a cloud stick/streaming handheld is STILL kinda a console. Nearly all the things you do on a traditional console would still be needed... Settings/preferences, managing clips, friends, chats... Even though the rendering happens in their data center, they'd still be in the console business, and the "platform" business case that drives a traditional console (% revenue on sales of 3rd party games) would still 100% be there.
If *and its definitely an if because I've got no idea* they do shift from console to streaming, I'd assume that things like recording clips etc would be dropped. They'd be silly to drop game chat, achievements and other metrics but it would be easy to see how recording wouldn't be a priority in order for them to achieve their goal.
In a cloud architecture, no reason to drop clip recording... It would just be done in the cloud vs. from your console...
Phil said many many times that you WON´T get high fidelity gaming from Cloud and that´s what Xbox consoles are for! The most powerful GPU today won´t give you 4K/60fps for current gen games powered by UE5! There´s only two consoles aiming for high fidelity gaming in the market today, and, if you think MS will leave that market for Sony and pursue some Cloud only route so Xbox first party games might run like crap on Xbox´s proprietary devices while running glorious on Playstation consoles you´re out of your mind.
@obscure, all this discussion is based on a premise that MS is shifting to a content and services focus vs. a platform focus, per the article. How dramatic that shift will be is anyone's guess. If only 25% of their sales is SeriesX and they lose $XM on each exclusive in opportunity cost, at what point is the console no longer viable? I have no idea. You might be right and it's still worth it even with a small user base
It's all hypothetical Obscure, your guess as much as mine. I'm also not saying they will, I'm saying if. Signs are pointing to them dropping console at some point to become a full blown 3rd party publisher especially when a lot of their newer purchases Zenimax, ABK made more money outside of Microsoft consoles and that's the key. Microsoft care for the money and if that means no console but control through subs, they'll do it.
In other words Incoming jobs cut Welcome digital future 🤦🏿
MS is out to destroy consoles. It hurts their business model that consoles exist.
Short term he's claiming to be embracing other consoles in order to get their "content and services" out to as many ppl as possible. Long term I think you're right that they hope to disintermediate via cloud streaming
Mh. Can it happen? I think there is a possibility. But I don't think it will, unless Microsoft is willing to reduce a big share of their service fees towards Sony and Nintendo. But that's just one factor. In the end, Gamepass is something Microsoft has created. So business-wise, if they have to rely on Sony and Nintendo to introduce it to their platform soon, I right now can't see any reason why Sony and Nintendo would be under any pressure to help "keep Gamepass alive". What could be a good reason for Nintendo and Sony to agree on Gamepass?
As MS can't profit from it's own system because it's dead outside the US thanks to MS being completely creatively bankrupt it leaves them little choice but to offer Gamespass on competing systems, unless they want to suffer huge losses from the multiplatform publishers they've removed and banned from their biggest console revenue stream. This is just them pushing their scummy service model onto everything they can to try and make a sh*tty service viable, which we've seen with Amazon, Disney, etc has been nothing but a disaster for the workers and consumers of movies and series... CEO's have been making fat stacks from it though, which is the real goal for MS.
Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter believes it's an incorrect gamers' perception that Microsoft has lost to Sony.
"If we change what our goal is, we're not losing" attitude. Kind of like how Microsoft didn't lose to Valve, they just changed their business model. And they didn't lose to Android and iOS, they just changed their business model. They 100%, after spending 3 generations competing heavily in console hardware, aren't losing to Sony, they're just changing their business model. You can't ever lose if you just 'change your business model'!
Pachter is full of crap. Always assume the opposite of what he says.
This clown is still around? I cannot remember he ever got one prediction right