Are ‘Spider-Man 2’ And ‘Starfield’ As Buggy As Players’ Posts Suggest?

Paul Tassi: “I have seen bugs in games like Starfield and Spider-Man 2 weaponized as so-called evidence that Microsoft or Sony, Bethesda or Insomniac, has released an unfinished, technically poor game.”

[Flawlessmic]

nope, its been straight up pathetic console fanboys purposely trying to break both games and then going seeee, look how buggy it is!!

Having played both, the only bug i can think of running into on starfield was floating doors in 50+ hrs lol spider man 2 crashed once on me in 13 hrs and thats literally it it for either of them.

so basically both games came out really good quality wise, but you know xbots and ponys gotta protect there box by dragging the other down.

forza is the one with the most egregious bug iv seen so far where after tuning your car from winning a race it then locks up so you have to close the game and then redo the race you already completed again, was happening to much so ive actually stopped playing it due that bug so until its patched im done and yet that gamw has gotten away scot free in terms of bug critisism, you know why, in the console war its not as big as saying starfield or spider man is broken of which neither is.

either way its been kinda pathetic to see the discourse around both games rather than providing genuine praise and critisism

[Neonridr]

honestly I don't mind when we come across a bug here or there. Reminds us all that nobody is perfect. Usually they just end up being funny and we move on. It's not like the game is ruined because 2 NPCs walked through each other for a second or like you said, you came across a floating door.

[GhostScholar]

Agree

[-Foxtrot]

Some of the Spiderman ones are literally people trying to break the game, going out of their way to find them.

[darthv72]

It should be the devs trying to break it, not the players. That way they can ensure its fixed so players dont run into the same thing.

Im convinced many of the glitches, like the spider cube one (my son had that happen and I recorded it) are related to the system being worked so hard. Because he ran into that after playing for like 14-15 hours. The game really pushes the hardware at times.

[Crows90]

Not sure you understood. Some people are looking for the bugs instead of playing the game.

That's not how you find normal bugs people will come across. You don't get in a car and crank the engine over and over and see how much it can take before an accident happens...and then point and say...see it's faulty.

[darthv72]

@crows, i understood completely. Maybe you fail to realize devs are gamers as well. They know there are always going to be those whose intention is to try and break the game, find exploits and profess them publicly. Which is why i said it should be the devs who do that so the players DONT find them.

[DaCajun]

Darth you need you realize that a couple hundred devs compared to millions of players looking for bugs is going to provide different results. The devs can spend tens of thousands of extra hours searching for possible bugs. But that is not always realistic. Games would never release if you tried to break the game until its perfect.

[pixlz]

I've had several bugs. Spawning into a bridge where I had to reset. Game crashes. Criminals spawning into buildings where I can't finish crimes. Mysterium's had some really weird loading. I didn't try to break the game at all.

That being said, the games so amazing, It's really easy to look past.
I look forward to some patches that make all that stuff a thing of the past.

[Abnor_Mal]

I don’t know about Starfield, but I’ve seen videos of people using the bike on train tracks get hit by a train fly off and the character becomes stuck in a weird pose still trying to ride a non existent bike. But as I said they took the bike to a place it didn’t belong, outside it’s specified mission.

Another vid I saw was people using photo mode to rotate the characters into NPCs so that they merge into one and then taking photos posting them online and calling them glitches.

[darthv72]

Have you seen spider-cube (pong suit)? That one is kind of funny.

[Abnor_Mal]

No I haven’t seen that one yet, does it happen in a specific part of the game with a certain character or suit?

Honest I’ve just been doing my own thing going around the open world, switching the controls, and gliding back and forth between Manhattan and Brooklyn on the Manhattan Bridge.

Story wise I’m up to the part after the gang goes to Coney Island, and then back to the lab. I quit that mission last night just so I could get back into the free roam stuff.

[--Onilink--]

For me it was about 2-3 hard crashes and 2 instances of cutscenes going black (but still had audio), though thankfully the game autosaves right as the cutscene starts so when I restarted the game, it jumped right into it again rather than skipping it (or having to redo the whole fight)

But overall, during normal gameplay it was pretty bug free.

Same with Starfield, a couple of broken sidequests that I have no idea if they already fixed and 1-2 hard crashes, but in general quite bug free

[EvertonFC]

@forbes

Never ever compare the 2, NXT

[Petebloodyonion]

Well, you are proving the author's point of view :)

[BanginTunes]

I was pretty excited to play Spider-Man and didn't install the day one patch the first session I played (since it was 40gb). Without the day one patch the game was very buggy and looked rough in performance mode.

Not to knock the game for this, post patch it's a night and day difference and I haven't seen any bugs since, though this might explain a lot of the bugs people are seeing, and this opens the door to some disingenuous narrative about the state of the game.

Now Rift Apart on the other hand I played a year later and that was buggy lmao

[persona4chie]

I haven’t played starfield, but I have experienced a few bugs in Spider-Man 2. I have a clip last night where after changes his suit miles turned into a little white cube. It was kinda funny because you could still fight and swing around, he was just a cube lol

[darthv72]

I call that the pong suit. a real throwback for geezers like me.

[northpaws]

I have encountered a few bugs, all tiny one, usually just an enemy or two got stuck in an encounter, which I can easily find with the radar, and unstuck in like 5 seconds.

[Knightofelemia]

I stumbled on a bug trying to open a door miles walked around in a circle until I hit the menu button. As for game breaking bugs I haven't seen anything yet. With Insomniac I don't expect a lot of bugs and they will fix it fast.

[Einhander1971]

Spiderman is incredible. Obviously just the haters trying to discredit the game. Even if there is slight bugs so what, as long as it doesn't break the experience.

[DazaMc]

I was expecting a couple of bugs in a Spider-man game ;)

[Hofstaderman]

Whats with the narrative that Spiderman is buggy? Perhaps an attempt to derail it from GOTY? Starfield on the other hand is a Bethesda game so we knew it would be buggy even before its release.

[JackBNimble]

Yeah what's with that narrative... biased much?

[Crows90]

Shouldn't really be lumping the 2 together. Not even remotely close in quality as a game.

Starfield is boring and glitchy. Spiderman is great..possibly some small glitches.

[gold_drake]

personal experience with starfield ...

the amounts of times npcs had no heads, the loads of times i slipped through the ship while taking off and npcs not loading right .. yes lol. it crashed a few times too.

spiderman not really no.

[InUrFoxHole]

That sucks. I've yet to have a bug with starfield. Sometimes poor facial animations but no bugs

[MrChow666]

https://youtu.be/YNS6f18Ve5...

[Miacosa]

No, as is the case with anything a few people who have issues tend to scream out but the majority just have fun and make no noise.

[Godmars290]

Starfield's bugs: occur during normal game play.

Spiderman 2's bug: by many accounts, occur from active effort to break the game.

These are not the same.

[InUrFoxHole]

By many accounts? So you admit they do happen naturally. It's ok. You can say it man, lol. That makes them both the same. It's tough to cope when you play it as a team sport.

[pixlz]

Spider-Man 2, I've had game crashes, guys spawning into buildings meaning I can't finish crimes, the mysterium loads are sometimes perfect and sometimes take a minute or two....

I've spawned into bridges where I had to reset my game. I look forward to the bug fixes.

I *love* this game and can easily overlook the bugs. They happen more often than any other game I've played... but I'm sure Insomniac can solve the really annoying stuff.

[Markusb33]

No, but fan boys will have you believe so, its funny as the microscope used to try and take appart spiderman 2 is strangly not present when xb games launch. Its fine to be critical of games and entertainment but at least keep the same level for all platforms and products

[X-23]

People these days go hunting for bugs in games like they're easter eggs and when they finally run across one they start scrambling to post it online so they can make a fuss about it.
If my save data isn't corrupted and the flow and enjoyment of the game isn't hindered or interrupted then I simply don't care.
Game is awesome and seeing Miles in The "Best There Is" was like a chef's kiss considering what game they're working on next.