Forza Motorsport peaks at less than 5,000 players on Steam, with only 44% positive reviews

Forza Motorsport is the latest first-party release from Microsoft and Xbox Game Studios. However, the game’s launch was far from a massive success.

[Sonic1881]

What happen to Forza? Gamepass? Quantity over Quality? There's technical issues with the PC version. I can't speak on the Xbox version

[Jin_Sakai]

Microsoft has managed to ruin all their top franchises. Talk about an accomplishment.

[Cacabunga]

Yes!
For those who still believe GP model is doing any good to gaming 👍🏽

[Terry_B]

Were there more than two?

[MrNinosan]

@Terry_B
I'd say the "big" 3 was Halo, Gears and Forza and those are the games that kept Xbox floating.

But also Fable was once upon a time a good franchise.

[bloop]

All those Actiblizz franchises will suffer the same fate eventually too.

[notachance]

@bloop I’d argue the actiblizz franchise have mostly decline too, like diablo and overwatch

MS buying ABK is like a finance team buying studios hoping to get a bunch of nerdy gamer guys to make awesome game for them, only to find out they too are a bunch of finance team and the actual veteran devs already bailed/kicked out since long ago.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

@MrNinosan,

When you think about it, they had a few great franchises, it's sad to see what's come of them compared to their heyday in the 360 days, the worst thing, people were already making fun of Halo in the One X days.

@Notachance,

Yeah, Microsoft is not saving Activision/Blizzard, they can't manage the studios they already have, let alone new ones, plus, we could already hear the death rattle coming for Activision/Blizzard for a long while now, I don't expect anything good from them. Microsoft is their retirement home.

[ravens52]

What about all those 10/10s. Curious

[Barlos]

Same as the 10s for Starfield. Can we say dubious?

[Class_Viceroy]

Reviewers totally ignore most technical issues and bugs nowadays especially if it's a big title. Unless the game releases in a Cyberpunk manner.

Baldur's Gate 3 had a lot of flaws that were overlooked.

[zeuanimals]

@Class_Viceroy

BG3 has way more going for it than it has going against it. The same can't be said for every game that gets 10s.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

@Class_Viceroy,
As long as the game is still fun and very playable, it's hard to tolerate the bugs in Cyberpunk, and Pokemon Violet/Scarlet was bad at launch. I've played Violet for 20+ hours and I've only seen one bug where I mistook a wild handbag walking itself for a Pokemon, hilarious, but by no means game breaking.

[SO71D]

Good enough for Gamepass.

[darthv72]

The xbox version runs great. Even better now with the first patch. though it shouldnt take a patch to fix something that should have been addressed in beta. Sucks for PC players, but they are working on it.

[OMGitzThatGuy]

Horizon killed Motorsport.

[Class_Viceroy]

I really don't see the point of Motorsport. I'm not a big racing person but I play I started playing Forza because it's on GP and figured why not. After playing the last 2 Horizon's Motorsport feels a little underwhelming. I thought it was really weird how Motorsport had like an RPG element with leveling stuff up. It took a lot of the immersion out of the game for me for being a realistic simulator. If you're going to have elements like that I would rather just play Horizon and not be as immersed.

[Profchaos]

Ofcourse why bother crafting evergreen titles when you put them on a buffet.

Pretty much every all you can eat buffet is a guarantee of one thing the quality won't be there

[Vits]

The PC Version apparently has a good number of technical issues. Textures not loading, geometry glitches, save files just not saving, etc.

Going by the reviews. It's probably the worst game performance-wise that Microsoft has put out on the PC in the last decade if not ever. This is a shame as Microsoft normally puts out really solid PC versions.

[dumahim]

Sounds like PC just doesn't run well, on top of all the other issues that are shared with the Xbox version. They might be worse on PC, but Xbox has most of the same issues as well.

[banger88]

Next time give us a f******* offline mode for single player!!

[EvertonFC]

Don't you have internet ?

[blacktiger]

Why does internet matter when it comes to single player?

[Barlos]

What if their Internet or the servers go down? It doesn't happen often, but it happens which is why you should never have to be tied to Internet connection to play a game. Look at GT7, when that had issues after an update not long after launch it made the game largely unplayable.

[Crows90]

Don you guys have phones? Lol

[neutralgamer1992]

Everton

It’s not about that man single player should be playable offline. Try playing driver San Francisco now since servers went down and UBI never had offline play

Offline modes shouldn’t require internet. I feel like gaming is going backwards. And instead of ask do we have internet you should be demanding better from these corporations. Never seen so many gamers defending these companies and their bad decisions

[Gamingsince1981]

I think Everton was doing a parody of blizz when they announced diablo immortal with the "don't you guys have phones" moment, I dont think they were serious.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I hate when they do this, why should it be mandatory for me to connect to the internet just to play single player? Multi-player is a no sh*t sherlock it needs internet, but if I'm playing through the story or grinding single player, there's no reason that I need the internet for it to function.

@neutralgamer1992

I miss couch mutli-player so much, I've skipped Need for Speed games because they tried to force online for just Single player.

[EvertonFC]

It's 2023 NOT 1980, you will get left behind in life, career jobs, banking, cloud and everything else.
If you don't have internet then wow, it's literally £10 a month for a cheap one.
I understand the games preservation argument but anything else I just laugh these days, it's not about just having internet for gaming but life ffs.

[Amplitude]

Yep. That's why I didn't pick this or Gran Turismo up. Or any of the recent CoD games.

@EvertonFC: I have extremely fast and reliable internet. I just like to purchase games that I can play for the rest of my life rather than single player games that I rent for the duration of the server's existence before losing forever with no ability to ever play it again on anything.

[EvertonFC]

I understand the game preservation argument fella

[LordoftheCritics]

MS should buy a few more studios.

That should solve everything.

[Jin_Sakai]

It’s almost guaranteed that everything gaming related Microsoft touch turns to sh*t.

[solideagle]

They should try to buy Polyphony from Sony :p I know it's Sony studio but couldn't help making the joke :p

On Topic: not sure what Turn 10 was thinking, all they need to do was more of the same and they were good to go

[badz149]

@LordoftheCritics

Studios? What is this? Amateur hour? 2017?

They need more publishers!

[Destiny1080]

only gears left

[Amplitude]

I'm so excited to see what they're working on honestly. It's been a while. They've always been a technical showpiece for the Unreal Engine. Hopefully they can do it again with UE5

[Mr_cheese]

I'd argue that unreal tournament was always a technical show piece for UE.

Miss that series

[FGHFGHFGH]

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[shadowT]

Forza failed to reached Top 20 in UK in retail charts during launch week. Maybe all are still playing Starfield.

[purple101]

Ohh dang. That's not like usual because English love racers..

I's also made in the UK.

Maybe people saw the reviews only 20 tracks most of them from Forza 7

[IRetrouk]

Horizion is made in the uk by playground studios, motorsport is made by turn 10 in the us, motorsport has never been a massive seller though, I'm not sure what people were expecting, gamepass will have probably shrunk that further.

[EvertonFC]

We do, but we prefer GT as a Sim over arcade/sim Forza.
Forza sales twindled when lots of old Playstation fans came back from 360 to PS4 last gen and Forza have lost those fans which made a bill of the sales up.
Hasn't FMS sold less than 3million each iteration since forza 4?

[Minute Man 721]

@everton

Did you post that GT is a sim?

Is it? Haven't played GT since PS2 era

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

@Minute Man 721
GT was always a sim game, I never known it to not be. I miss the more arcade-y experiences like Ridge Racer, there was nothing quite like that game where you drift at high speeds through the levels listening to that sound track.

[MrBaskerville]

Personally I just got one month of the cheapest gamepass and have been playing it a bunch. It's pretty good, but I think I can get my fill before my subscription runs out, so won't be buying. Maybe someday when cheap.

[Hofstaderman]

And here lies MS grave that it dug for itself....

[MrBaskerville]

@Hofstaderman
Atleast people tend to forget to unsubscribe and I'm sure there's also a lot of people who finds reasons to keep the subscription. With a little luck there's a lot of those. But probably also a bunch of people like me who stopped buying their games because it's super cheap to rent them, who keep cancelling the subscription.

[Hofstaderman]

Playing/waiting on loading screens

[gold_drake]

ooofff
they need to buy more dev teams, that should fix the problem im sure

[tay8701]

I wonder How many of these newly aquired studios will be closed within the next 5 Yrs.

[northpaws]

Their fault for trusting MS

[Class_Viceroy]

This is actually a very interesting question. Once they are finally down with Round 1 of releases from all these new companies on the Current Gen (crazy to think it's been 3 years and waiting on so many of them). If they don't have a few masterpieces (outside of bethesda, CoD and the other big hitters), it's totally reasonable to expect a lot of closures and consolidations of teams.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

Idk, a lot of studios seem to be relegated to making low tier rubbish (Rare) or just endless, mediocre sequels (343), they just seem to sit quietly in the background somewhere.

[FPS_D3TH]

This games horrible on Pc and feels like a worse version than GT sport. As a longtime fan of the series I can’t believe this is what we get after 6 years. Went back to Horizon 5 and uninstalled this game

[ironmonkey]

Lol if it's fans can't support its own quality, stop making it.

[MatrixxGT]

Forza died at 7 for me. Such a disappointment. I heard this changes things a little bit with rpg elements and it doesn’t sound to appealing to me. Plus the always online is a hard pill to swallow just like GT7. Even though i have GP I still probably won’t bother with it.
I’ll stick with GT7 for now.

[MrBaskerville]

The rpg elements kinda suck, but it is a fun game. Campaign starts out extremely linear but does open up after a while.

[Elda]

LOL!

[eagle21]

Now the truth comes out...lol. Can't hide this Microsoft! I guess they will now invest in A.I. that will play their games (to keep numbers up) because nobody else will...lol.

[moomoo319]

Bruh enough with the Steam stats ur only counting people with high end PCs to even run this type of game. Vast majority are console gamers especially for Forza, Gears, Halo, COD, Fifa etc etc.. who give af what steam says.

[ocelot07]

Who gives a f about what Steam says? The main store front on pc? The one with over 130m actively monthly users? I'm pretty sure Microsoft would of loved for even a few million of them users to buy this.

Now this is the best part of you're rant as it clearly shows you haven't a clue what you're on about.

"ur only counting people with high end PCs to even run this type of game"

The minimum recommendation to run this is 7 year old hardware lol. GTX 1060 for f sake lol.

[moomoo319]

Obsessing over steam player counts when vast majority of gamers are casual and on console, is waste of time. Same games dominate the steam charts and then sh*t like beaver damn creator hits #1. It just nerd sh*t. People stalking the charts to write these clickbait articles and we lap it up 😂

[randomvoice]

The game has failed which is shocking given T10's track record. This is what happens when you shove stupid GAAS crap in games.

[Lightning77]

Calling it Forza Motorsport is confusing. Most probably think it's a remake of the first one. Should of called it Forza Motorsport 8 instead.

Pure genius Turn 10 plus they barely even advertised it. Barely showed it off at SGF. Hell I forgot all it as of a few weeks ago.

They deserve this.

[Soldtnt]

I played both forza and gt7 I own both ps5 and xbox and both games are boring

[EvertonFC]

Not a racing fan then

[Soldtnt]

I was mt early gt games I loved them but can't seem to get away with this generation of both games

[Hofstaderman]

Ouch.

[Blaze929]

Why would anyone get this through Steam when it's free on Gamepass?

[ocelot07]

Because many people want to buy there games rather than rent them month by month. Like we have been doing for many many years.

[RaveTears]

Bruh, you paying for game pass so is not free. It like saying I am getting access to free online multiplayer on PS+.

[melons]

I really do think the low playerbase is something to do with the truly insane amount of games out at the moment. It's beyond anything I can remember.

[ocelot07]

I have been playing it on series X. So I can't comment on the pc performance. Xbox performance seems alright did crash on me twice.

The issue is for me. It's so boring I normally enjoy Forza both track racing Motorsport and open world horizon. But so far this has just been so boring and it's just not fun to play at all.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Inferior compared to the older forza games imo.

[Reaper22_]

Stop believing everything you read on gaming sites, people. Forza is doing well.

[GhostScholar]

I would assume most people who are into the Motorsport series play it on game pass first of all. Secondly the game handles and looks great. I personally prefer the horizon series, but the negative views are review bombs for the most part. My one criticism with the game is the forced practice laps which make you go to a loading screen to exit into the actual race. The visuals can’t be argued with as far as how good it looks and the handling is rock solid as well. Just like always if it was on PlayStation and wasn’t a Microsoft studio the narrative would be completely different. Sane rational people know that already.

[Stanjara]

You are in an online event...Ferrari F40 ok. Everyone races the same car F40... but guess what? That's a new race for you so you need to buy F40. Ok.

Now you start the race and... 5 guys in front just fly away. Why?

Because they've driven that car, have a high lv of that car and... they can buy upgrades.

You can't. Your F40 is LV1

That's not fun gameplay... that's why game has 2.5/5 on Xbox.

[Hereandthere]

Its a game pass filler, the graphics were somehow downgraded from forza 7 in some areas, Now the new go to excuse is that the game is getting review bombed, just like last gen looking starfield. Xbox players need to quit toeing the line and start getting on phil spencers butt and demand quality exclusives. Nothing on xbox comes close to looking as good as spiderman 2 and gt7.

[GhostScholar]

You can say starfield looks last gen, but it’s still the best looking game Bethesda has ever made. Also, the graphics of forza Motorsport are the best that series has ever looked. How about talking about the games you love on im assuming PlayStation rather than being the troll that cares more about what he hates than what he loves.

[Zombieburger638]

It can be Bethesda’s best looking game but that doesn’t mean much when all their games are butt ugly.

[jwillj2k4]

“It’s the pretty turd I ever laid”

[FlameWater]

bought it, don't have time to play it

[Soulsborne]

An acquisition will surely fix this!

[anast]

GamePass...the best deal in gaming...

[GhostScholar]

No ps plus is much better lol have you seen what they added as “classics” this month? They refuse to add the real classics which were in ps1 and 2.

[akaFullMetal]

Sad to see it come out so rough. What were they doing for 6 years?

[Kuklygamer]

The game is good just little heavy to run compared to forza 5. But it look beatiful on higher end pc. The fact is series x/ps5 have become slow again. Rendering below 1080p, sometimes below 720p fsr scaled to 1440p or 4k. It has been amazing year for the gamepass no denying its value. In playstation fantasy land you can pretend every game in it sucks. Specially with pcgamepass +eaplaypro(every ea game available) beat playstation service easy in value and content

[Father__Merrin]

I'm playing it now on series X general gameplay is ok but there something missing compared to previous forzas

[DarXyde]

Difficult to gauge this one. These are Steam numbers. I would imagine this is very much a bigger game on XGP. Those are the numbers people should be looking at. I suppose the worst you can say is that the player pool of Steam purchases seems low.

The quality conversation is a different discussion. There appears to be less satisfaction with this one than previous entries.

So Game Pass, as Microsoft said themselves, cannibalizes sales. Additionally, the quality argument is a very fair one. What does it mean for the recent acquisitions? Well, I think Microsoft is trying to put their best for forward (at least for now) to call their acquisitions a net positive. HFR and Starfield for example did well critically and commercially (Starfield did). Time will tell, but for their main franchises, I can't say that it bears out that is been good. But that's just me.

[Agent75]

I mean, £70 for the same old tracks, what was Turn 10 and Microsoft thinking? How about a game with 50 new tracks? No excuses for a handful of tracks. Arcade racers manage to give gamers made up tracks. But arcade racers are a rarity these days. Same with Turismo. Astonishing that gamers are prepared to pay £70 for a recycled game that’s now much different from previous games.

[DeadManMMX]

I have this game installed but the fact of the matter is I just don't have time for it right now. I'm literally tripping over games at the moment. Just 100% Lies of P. Still playing Baldurs Gate 3 and Starfield. Spiderman 2 is coming out today that's a day one. Then on GamePass there is a literal swath of games available.. Payday and Party Animals Dead Space which I've been wanting to play. While I'm doing this I'm going through the Modern Warfare campaigns preparing for 3 & Replaying and platinuming Alan Wake in preparation for 2. Then Super Mario Wonder. This year is big time for games.