Redfall Update Adds Performance Mode on Xbox & Much More

Today Bethesda and Arkane released a big update (Game Update 2) for the vampire-slaying shooter Redfall, which was released a while ago.

[lelo2play]

Good news that Microsoft didn't give up on the game.

[Tacoboto]

Yeah, just yesterday the usual crew of people used this game as an example of poor MS management to make it seem like Factions 2's failure is a positive thing for Sony. So weird.

Xbox and Bethesda still have to make good on their promised and paid-for DLC though. If they don't, they better lay out a plan for reimbursements or be ready for a gamer lawsuit.

[isarai]

It is an example of poor management, it's such a basic thing the game should should've launched with, and definitely shouldn't have taken this long to implement.
And no one is saying it's a purely positive thing factions has been shelved, but with it being in development hell, and allegedly causing delay on their next big game, we'd much rather they drop Factions and focus on something else if that's what it takes. Everyone agreed whatever is happening with factions is also poor management.

[VenomUK]

Performance mode was always coming. But I suspect because Phil Spencer required Xbox have a game release on Game Pass in H1 2023 this was rushed out NOT feature complete.

[RhinoGamer88]

Think about the 'smart and well-paid' minds on the XBOX publishing side. The resources for playtesting, QA, art, and design. For them to allow Redfall to release in that/this state would have gotten many of them fired at other companies.

[-Foxtrot]

God I hate this thing where a bad game or a disappointing lacking game gets a bit of support and SUDDENLY, everyone praises the studio like all is forgiven when it reality the game is still nowhere near it's potential or what was promised.

If you compare a bag of shit next to a smaller bag of shit, guess what, it's still shit.

[Doomeduk]

Come back when naughty dog put stickers on the retail box covering the 60fps performance when they can't get near it
Try harder ..a lot harder

[Tacoboto]

"everyone praises the studio"
... I didn't praise them. Nor would I - Redfall at any FPS isn't a game for me and Xbox used piss-poor judgment in not delaying the game.

@Doomed
Naughty Dog needs to first release something this generation that isn't a remaster or remake.
And they need to not use Fedex again, my Part 1 Firefly Edition came banged up and scuffed.

[Crows90]

Failure of gas is always a good thing

[darthv72]

We should know by next week if this update has had any effect on getting people back in to play it. i never uninstalled it... I started it when it came out and then opted to just let it sit, waiting for this update to come. I will get back into it tonight after it updates and see if there are also others doing the same thing.

Already there was some tweet that said the steam version saw a 66% increase immediately following the announcement. And IGN had made one earlier in the day (prior to this announcement) that said steam player count was down to just 3 people. They have since deleted their tweet. Im not saying this will be the next fallout 76 (which turned things around quite nicely after an abysmal launch) but it certainly should spark some to go back and give it another chance.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

@-Foxtrot,

There's barely anyone playing it anyway, last I read it had something like 35 concurrent players at most, and that it's often impossible to get enough players to fill a team. This game has too many issues to fix, it's well and truly dead in the water.

[Obscure_Observer]

The crow dinner for haters that were saying that Xbox just give up on the game is now served!

It´s a massive update!

Will be downloading it later and testing the performance mode!

[JEECE]

Bragging about playing Redfall is one of the bigger self-owns I've seen in awhile. It's like a PS3 fanboy bragging about Haze.

[isarai]

I'm glad it's being fixed, and I hope it delivers for you guys, but trust me , no one is eating crow. It launching unfinished, and trickling fixes over months/years was everyone's criticism, not that they would never fix it, but that it shouldn't need so much fixing to start with like so many of MSs games these days. Plus even if all the glitches are fixed, it's core gameplay loop just isn't good.

Plus I'm having Chicken Alfredo for dinner.

[Obscure_Observer]

@JEECE

" It's like a PS3 fanboy bragging about Haze."

I´d used to brag about playing The Order: 1886, do you have a problem with that?

[darthv72]

Steak fajitas for me... I make em myself. First i use tritip, i could have used flank steak but tritip is what i had. i slice it into thin strips and put in a ziploc with some oil and seasoning (carne asada from walmart). then after I've let it marinade for a day I will take it and put it in a hot cast iron skillet. After browning the meat, i remove it from the pan and add in fresh bell peppers (I have red and yellow this time) and I also add mushrooms but no onions (wife doesnt like em). I cook those until they are still firm but not mushy and then return the meat to the pan to finish off everything.

I serve them as a build your own with flour tortillas and sides of pico, sour cream and guac. Man... I still have to wait 5 hours before i get home to cook.

[Terry_B]

This update was promised short after its release when Microsoft did not know how hard the playernumbers wouldnt fall. If this game still gets many updates..all kudos to them..but I totally doubt it. Redfall is pretty much dead.

[Wintersun616]

@Obscure_Observer

"I´d used to brag about playing The Order: 1886, do you have a problem with that?"

Why would anyone? Unlike Redfall, The Order 1886 was actually a solid game that wasn't released broken.

[Vengeance1138]

Hahahahahahaha oh man your standards are LOW lol you'd actually still claim to support one of the worst flops of the year just to prove you're the ultimate xbot fanboy lol

[Lightning77]

Too bad it's to little too late.

[DarXyde]

I recall saying that I'll believe it when I see it.

Well, here we are. Seems they've done it and I was wrong.

Well done, Microsoft. I don't know who's still playing, but I really thought it was hot air (within a year, no less—it seriously begs the question then: why not just delay it until you got to this point?). Regardless, credit where it is due.

[Obscure_Observer]

"I recall saying that I'll believe it when I see it.

Well, here we are. Seems they've done it and I was wrong."

Congratulations! Very rare attitude from PS fans on N4G.

[DarXyde]

Obscure_Observer,

Ugh, spare me your condescending congratulations and acting like I'm "one of the good ones". I have no reason to be dishonest or unprincipled. You've convinced yourself that the "others" are unreasonable and that's on you.

While most wouldn't give credit to Microsoft, there are quite a few that have pure fire and fury for PlayStation when they mess up.

Crediting "opposition" and criticizing your own choice platforms are not that different.

[darthv72]

okay... maybe now I will give this a try.

[RaidenBlack]

What this game needs is actually a Cyberpunk-esque 2.0 overall with a DLC sized update

[RaidenBlack]

*overhaul

[jznrpg]

Cyberpunk had a good design underneath all the issues. Redfall isn’t anywhere near Cyberpunk in gameplay and design.

[thesoftware730]

I will try this out today!

Anyone wanna group up PM me.

[Deeeeznuuuts]

Good news, great they finally updated it, is a bit sus that it all comes after the numerous articles calling the Devs out but better late than never.

Could do with some content updates now, try and revitalise it, bring players back

[z2g]

we'll it see a Cyberpunk style redemption? only time will tell

[Crows90]

Arkane is...was a great developer. My hopes is they can redeem themselves but ever since the Microsoft purchase, all their games have been worse and worse...hope that changes and it was a fluke.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I don't think we will, it has too many core issues with this game, Cyberpunk just needed a lot more to polish up (it had the elements of a good game, just too many bugs).

[GoodGuy09]

Don't think that or anything else will save it though. Unless you spend another 2+ years continuously working and updating the game with free content etc like what cyberpunk is kinda doing lol.

[VersusDMC]

I don't see 60fps mentioned once in that Bethesda post...what is the performance mode targeting?

[GamerRN]

I tried it, solid 60fps.

I also can't seem to figure out what is changing from Quality mode to make it faster, as it just looks the same but smoother

[EvertonFC]

Is the enemy AI still static and shite

[GamerRN]

The enemies are mostly fixed and seem to act more like intended. Overall it feels like what the game should have been at release. I think if they waited, the game would have performed better with players, but I think it's too late for this one.

Overall it's a DECENT game, but not overly amazing or anything

[EvertonFC]

Also no mention of improved enemy AI, adding more static enemies isn't gonna change anything.

[sagapo]

“Various performance improvements made to Hero abilities, weapons, and general game systems”

Maybe the AI falls under the general game systems? Just my guess tho.

[Hofstaderman]

Is this turd still a thing?

[coolbeans]

Will Redfall ascend to a mid looter-shooter? That's actually... an intriguing question to me. Akin to viewing it like a science experiment.

[GamerRN]

I don't think so. It's at best a 7/10 experience, that was a 4/10 during release. Not much to draw anyone back that left

[coolbeans]

That's why I said "to me" there. I personally put it at a flat 3/10 upon completion, but there's something tempting to see if any fundamentals (past fps & basic movement) have also been tweaked.

[Valkyrye]

Like coming up for a fix to rotten milk, yeah still rotten.

[anast]

HA!

[Crows90]

"Explore an even more dangerous Redfall with an increased open world enemy population and new encounters."

They need to redesign the characters cuz theyre super generic. Then they need to improve the tone of the game by adding tons of side content with interesting questlines. They should also add more enemy variety.

Not sure if theres more down the line but vampire rats come to mind as a throwback to dishonored franchise.

[EvertonFC]

It was the enemy AI being static, so increasing that won't help the game. Do they still just stand there

[Crows90]

Dont know. I think something in the patch mentions for ai intelligence but not sure.

[thesoftware730]

I played for 4hr last night, no enemies were static, and they did mention they fixed the enemies being static.

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

I just reinstalled it and can confirm that it definitely runs in 60 fps now. I can also confirm it still sucks…

[GamerRN]

What didn't you like about it?

[EvertonFC]

Maybe still not improving the god awful static enemy AI, adding more static enemy isn't gonna fix it. The core mechanics are broke

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

There’s too much to list what I don’t like about it. The gunplay is not tight for starters, missions design is plan and boring , enemy AI is horrible, the world is bland, the skills are lackluster. Melee animations are laughable. I can go on and on. Have you played it? If so what do you like about it? I was looking forward to this game and if u go through my comment history around the time this game was launching u will see I was hyper for Redfall. It’s just not a good game unfortunately.

[Crows90]

Thanks for checking...saves me time.

[jwillj2k4]

I can see the industry changing to do on going reviews or ‘rolling reviews’ if releasing a half assed game is the new norm.

[EvertonFC]

And so they should, days gone should have been reviewed again after a month of patches, NMS should have been reviewed again.
Some of these game do turn out totally different when fixed.
However the publishers shouldn't be forcing them out the door when not ready

[sagapo]

Your final sentence says it all. If only finished games would be released, a re-review wouldn’t be necessary. Unless a game gets a complete revamp for some reason.

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

So basically you think it’s ok for publishers to sell us a lie? Take our money first and fix later? You can’t be serious…games should be reviewed in the state they are in when they take a consumer’s money. I’m paying for what is not what could be.

[BillyCrystals]

From game of the year to game of the generation

[repsahj]

Nice combo! XD

[Soulsborne]

Dead game. Next

[Abear21]

Fallout 4 update or bust. I’m guessing a remaster is in the works that will be exclusive but a guy can dream right?

[babadivad]

Cool i guess.

[thesoftware730]

I played it again last night with my pal, we had good fun, oh what a difference 60 fps and the other tweaks make. I advise anyone that was slightly interested to try it again, it almost feels new.

I originally played it on the SX and couldn't do it...it was off, but I saw small potential.

Fast forward to now and the potential is definitely shining through,, as I said I had 3-4 hours of fun and plan to play more today.

[RupeeHoarder]

So you’re one of the 20 remaining players. A rotten egg with Easter colors is still a rotten egg. Nice try though, not sure how you have the energy to continue being part of the Xbox PR department.

[thesoftware730]

Dude I'm not being a PR nothing, you make it seem like I'm calling the game Goty or something.

I said it is improved and I had fun with it last night, wtf man.

Also they did fix the enemies being static, I didn't encounter it once, I had to tweak the sensitivity of the aiming, but other than that it was not bad. Go try it for yourself before you jump down my throat about having a bit of fun with the game.

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

Why are you hating on his enjoyment? While I agree that the game is trash even with this update if I saw someone enjoying it I’d be happy for them. Soon as you mentioned “Xbox PR Dept” you fanboy started showing. You should worry less about what other people enjoy and worry more about why you hate on other people’s enjoyment…

[Elda]

I played it when it was first released. I played the game halfway through until I got frustrated with a boss & never went back. I may try it again with the new updates. The game is not bad, it has potential but it definitely has its flaws, it really needs an overhaul as far as gameplay & game mechanics like Cyberpunk did with 2.0. I give the game a 6.5. If you enjoyed it then good for you, folks on this site will definitely downvote & ridicule you if your opinion doesn't coincide or exist with theirs.

[thesoftware730]

Just finished playing it again just now with my pal, we have it on midnight difficulty and I think that makes it a bit more fun. I can say 100 percent that I'm having fun, from what I played so far a 6.5-7 seems about right.

And as far as the people on here trying to grief, I don't really give a shit, my comments are really for people that were slightly interested in the first place...I tried it at launch and didn't like it..I actually played it with Flawlessmic, from this very website, and did not like it. The update really made a difference for me, and now I'm having fun, plain and simple.

[Psychonaut85]

Awesome! Maybe Arkane can claw it back and turn it into what it should have been. Glad to see they added a takedown animation, there was something so wrong about an Arkane game just having a shitty buttstroke hit as the stealth takedown. When I finally take the Xbox/PC plunge I’ll probably check it out now.

[ManMarmalade]

Let it die

[cammers1995]

Good for the 5 people still playing. The stats show that number is true.