Is Xbox Copying PlayStation Again With Their Handheld Plans?

While they are looking at what to do for the future, Microsoft's plans for the Xbox are starting to look similar to Sony's current moves with their PlayStation handheld device.

[Vengeance1138]

Of course they are, Microsoft doesn't have an original bone in their body. Look to Sony for innovation!

[glennhkboy]

Copy Sony of what?...... The rumor "XBox Portable" would be a full function Xbox, similar to ROG Ally or Legion Go; while Sony doesn't have any plan on a full function PS Portable. There is nothing in Sony's portable plan that's worth copying.

[Vengeance1138]

The new Sony handheld literally is a full function PS5. Play any game you have on your PS5 on it.
Ctrl-C // Ctrl-V

[GamerRN]

@Vengeance1138

You might want to fact check that. It isn't a fully functioning PS5. It is solely a streaming device. And you also have to use it at home. So it's useless anywhere else.

[Shane Kim]

GameRN

It is a streaming device, you are right. But from my understanding you can play it over another wifi. So you dont need to be at home.

[TheEroica]

Downvotes are from pre-orders for sonys gimped streaming handheld. They should probably check what they're buying before throwing that money down.

[Old McGroin]

@GamerRN
"And you also have to use it at home. So it's useless anywhere else."

It's actually amazing that people are still spreading this bull. On the day it was announced it was detailed that both devices didn't need to be on the same network, so I could be on a lunch break at work and use mobile hotspot to play if I wanted.

[Sitdown]

@Vengeance1138
So you really believe that you are getting a full function PS5 that costs significantly less than a standard PS5? The fact that you say you can play any game that you have on your PS5, means that it is attached to something else....which by default, tells you that it's not a full function PS5, but can access the full functions of a PS5. Slight wording makes a world of difference.

[Ozzy2407]

@GamerRN

You do NOT need to be at home to use it, you can use it anywhere providing you can get a wi-fi signal.

[wiz7191]

@ShaneKim you also right you can use over any Wifi , but how often are you going to be have stable wifi that gives you the optimal experience that’s it’s worth carrying it around ? You can probably use your hotspot but that relies on another

[glennhkboy]

"The new Sony handheld literally is a full function PS5. Play any game you have on your PS5 on it.
Ctrl-C // Ctrl-V"

You got me here.....

[TheEroica]

I laughed too.... There's gonna be a lot of disippointed Sony fans if they think they're getting a fully featured ps5 out of this rip off streaming handheld.

[Profchaos]

And they all copied the game and watch if you want to go back far enough.

However this device is running a thin os meaning it's only going to have streaming capabilities so yeah it's like Sony's new handheld however both are far from original ideas.

[TheEroica]

Riiiiiight.... Looking back at the past 20 years it's been Sony copying everyone else's innovations from online gaming to wiimote style gaming but you go ahead and make up whatever helps you sleep.

[Vengeance1138]

All I see is the xbot fanboy going bahhhh bahhhh 🐑 lol
Selective memory really is something isn't it? Need someone to trim your wool?

[TheEroica]

Not sure Microsoft is in the market for a gimped streaming device.

[1Victor]

@vengeance: “ Of course they are, Microsoft doesn't have an original bone in their body. Look to Sony for innovation!”
I disagree with you to be fair there they have a tiny bone called Xbox live.
I hope that the( alleged )Xbox handheld system have a physical aspect to it not just as a way to push GP subs up

[mjchitown]

like sony copy PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale from Smash Bros. PlayStation move from wii. Totaku Collection copy from amiibo. sony copy psn story from xbox 360. os3 didnt even had a story at first dude. psn plus copy xboxlive, killzone copy halo. remember halo killer ? driveclub copy forza and many many more. they all copy each other . but to act like its only Microsoft shows you a clown. you a xbox hater anyway brainwash fanboys who worship sony.

[VariantAEC]

PSAS:BR is a totally different take on Smash. The gameplay loop is pretty similar overall, but how you score is completely different. Also Smash copied level merging from PSAS:BR... so, there is that.

Move was demoed years before the controller was made. Remember Richard Marks actually using everyday objects to manipulate virtual things in the game world? That was what Move was supposed to be... yeah that was in 2004! Two years before Wii launched, hm, who copied who. Even in 2009 Marks was demoing this again with sticks that had colored balls at the end of them. The Move controller was a 3D pointer which requred PS Eye to work. The Wiimote was a 2D pointer that could work in many ganes without the IR sensor bar. So even after the controller was created, the Move didn't copy basically anything the Wiimote did. It didn't have a speaker or mic and I can't remember if it featured haptics. It was a completely different beast compared to the Wiimote in actuality.

Killzone wasn't a copy of Halo. Halo was a galaxy romping space opera with religious undertones driving the actions of the antagonists. Killzone was more of a Battlefield game on another planet. You clearly never played both Halo or Killzone, I leave room for you to have played one or the other, but there is no way in hell that you could've played both and come to the conclusion that Killzone is a carbon copy of Halo. I have played both, and in my personal opinion, Killzone was way better than Halo.

We retread old ground with Driveclub and Forza. You must be talking about Forza Horizon not Motorsport, right? Even so, Driveclub is in no way either of these games. Again I leave room for you to have played one or the other but clearly you haven't played both DC and any Forza Horizon game. If there weren't a text limit I would explain why you are wrong about even feeling that DC is a copy of Forza Horizon (never mind Forza Motorsport).

[Einhander1972]

The sad thing is even if the product is lower quality and cost more "for some reason" the same press that tried to destroy the Portal will say it's the best thing ever.

[TheRealHeisenberg]

Your very own Playstation fanboys were destroying the Portal. You can't blame the media for that.

[Eonjay]

I have been supporting the Portal as it appeals to me and my situation. At thensame time I understand people feeling that they don't need it. Neither are mutually exclusive. I don't understand the need to force it down people's throat and I don't think the handheld shouldn't exist just because everyone doesn't need one.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

Nah, the Portal wasn't that great of an idea and only suits a very small percentage of PS owners (you could just use almost any device with a screen), I don't think a Xbox handheld would be a particularly good idea either.

[Umb]

Well, a possibility is those special cheques and swag bags don't send out by itself...

I saw something similar during the PS3 vs X360 days, PS3 has less grass in a game compared to the x360 and was hammered for it. During the PS4 vs XOne it was glossed over as if its not a big deal.

Hell even now with current hardware, excuses are made as to why the SX is having issues, DF episode with Halo Infinite when it was revealed, anyone??

[TheRealHeisenberg]

Take that up with whichever fanboys you like to argue with. I am just here because why not.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

PS4 and Xone were technically very close in performance, that's why it wasn't a big deal or overly discussed.

[Zeref]

Playstation Portal is literally a joke 🤣🤣🤣

[jimbo676]

you think its just the press hating on portal?. hahahahah. no man. everything is crapping on it.

[Vits]

Unlikely, Sony's attempt at a streaming handheld is a very specific one. It's not a handheld, it's a controller with a display that needs a PS5 main unit to function. That is completely the opposite of what Microsft is doing with Gamepass which is making it available as a solo service in as many products as possible. So if they were to really release a handheld it would be much more similar to other more traditional devices like the Logitech G-Cloud and the Abxylute.

As for the idea of a handheld that runs things natively. I doubt they are going to release one as there was nothing about it on those leaked new versions. But they could potentially make something based on the Zen 1/ Zen 1 Extreme. I just don't think they will.

[blackblades]

Native handheld is just pointless at this point for both. With Nintendo world, then pc handhelds and now mobile taking a leap with having console games being native.

[TOTSUKO]

Fr. I ain’t paying for a handheld that will cost more than the ps5 just to play it at 1080p right next to my ps5 90% of the time

[Vits]

I honestly think that from the point of view of tech, now is probably the best time ever to do something native. Because the advancements that AMD made with their APUs make them really close to a parity state with the home consoles. Meaning that neither Sony nor Microsoft would have to create completely different teams with different tools and APIs to create content for them. It would just be another SKU with a different target.

What is harder to justify is the market. Right now we know that the Steam Deck is by far the most popular of those devices, but even in it's cheapest state, it is at least as expensive as the cheapest PS5 and $100 more expensive than the cheapest Xbox. And we don't know how well it sold the most optimistic of the estimates put it in the 3M range which is great considering that Valve doesn't even sell the thing in most parts of the world. But probably not enough to justify a new SKU for a console manufacturer.

But then again Sony went and created a controller with a screen for $200 and there are a lot of folks defending it and saying that will buy one. So the market might be there for a $600 PS Portable or a $600 Xbox Portable. We are just really unlike to ever know.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

@Vits,

After the support fiasco that was the PSP/Vita, I could never buy into another Sony handheld, I enjoyed those Sony handhelds, but there were left to rot when they could have succeeded.

[ocelot07]

Didn't Microsoft partner with Linx a few years ago for a similar device. A tablet that had a Xbox controller attached to it for gamepass.

[darthv72]

The G cloud is about as close as a dedicated gamepass unit can be. It can also do ps5 remote play.

[ocelot07]

Is that the lg one? That looks really decent that.

[Fishy Fingers]

One is a (optional extra) Wii U.

One is (probably) a phone with buttons, without the phone.

Neither of wihich are similar, neither are remotely original.

[slate91]

Can we clarify the "again" in this title?

[Einhander1972]

Well from recent news how about their controller design that is ripping off the haptics and gyroscopic controls, and speaker of the Dual Sense.

[thesoftware730]

Lol how would they be copying?

The leak came out last week.

Sony hasn't even realesed the Portal yet.

So are we to assume MS quickly drew and formulated a handheld after Sony announced the Portal?

And if anything, MS has been in the Mobile/portable space for a bit now, phones, and handheld PC, most run GP.

Another reach article.

[Wikkid666]

The leak 100% said Microsoft has no plans to release a handled. This article is total bs.

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

Why would MS need a handheld device when you have things like the Rog Ally? It basically is a MS handheld…

[Petebloodyonion]

I love the idea that it's always Sony that MS must be copying and not the Valve Steam deck.
Well this opinion piece show that MS have the best spies in the industry since they already knew that Sony was coming with the PlayStation portal even before Sony actually announced the device since it was documents from 2022.

Talk about welcome to the next level in term of copy.

[Traecy]

Microsoft XB wishes it was PlayStation or having PlayStation status.

[rlow1]

Xbox already has handhelds by third party and cell phones. That’s said, the leaked documents of said strategy are not a guarantee. Time changes a lot of things. Plus those strategies were put out two years ago and alot has already changed because of the Activision acquisition. Just my take.

[GoodGuy09]

Every company copies off of eachother and makes their own version. Sony does it a lot with Nintendo. Mcsft does it a lot with Sony and Sony with Mcsft as well.

Nintendo is the most innovative even though some ideas have failed, Nintendo somehow prospers eventually. They definitely take the most risks and changes.

[S2Killinit]

MS never did anything until others first go there.

[TheEroica]

Riiiight. Like online console gaming when they were creating Xbox live and Sony was on record saying online gaming isn't the future?

Sony definitely didn't change Playstation plus to try and copy Microsoft gamepass...

I mean, cmon... It's like you're not paying attention.

[S2Killinit]

PlayStation had online gaming before xbox, and it was free. MS introduced paid online.

PlayStation had PSPlus and streaming gaming after purchasing Gaikai* before MS rolled out with gamepass.

You are the one not paying attention.

[gold_drake]

wait wait wait
wasnt there like something where Phil said "handhelds dont fit in our business model"?

ha knew it
gamingbold article in late August
"Phil Spencer Talks About Why There’s No Need for an Xbox Handheld"

https://gamingbolt.com/phil...

[TheEroica]

So what the handheld costs 700 bucks because you need a PS5 to even use it? Doesn't Sony already make an app that does what the handheld does? What a terrible product Sony is making.

[S2Killinit]

Im going to love it. Play my handheld anywhere with wifi. Its gonna be AMAZING. Muhahaha

[VariantAEC]

PS Portal is $200, which is $200 less than Steam Deck. Steam Deck can do more without another system, but Portal was never even suggested to be a PS5, it is just a gamepad for PS5 with a screen that streams content from your own PS5. Portal is what Steam Link is in the form of an actual stand-alone product of its own.

[Father__Merrin]

I disagree with copying claims. If an idea has come out that another company can use for Thier own fans then so be it

[jimbo676]

Xbox would be a full fledge device. Psp poral not so much

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

The playstation portal is not a great idea, and the handheld market is pretty well saturated at this point. Having an Xbox handheld is pointless when the Steam Deck exists and can play practically every Xbox game with the except of one or two titles that are truely exclusive to Xbox. I think making a streaming app to stream games to your TV/Tablet/Phone like Sony does is a better idea, I don't think a Xbox handheld would be profitable for them.