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The Next Nintendo Console Will Have Power Closer To PS4 And Xbox One, Reveals Leaked Activision Doc

The upcoming Nintendo console, rumored to be Switch 2, will have power closer to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One than the current-gen consoles.

Jin_Sakai238d ago

That was obvious. It’s a handheld. DLSS will really boost the resolution and frame rate though and Ray Tracing will be great being Nvidia.

Number1TailzFan238d ago

It does not make up for having noticeably weaker hardware. PS5 & Series X are having some trouble running a new UE5 title dude. DF demonstrated the fps & resolution of both consoles, both upscaling from 720p and having frame dips into the 40fps range and below on PS5, bit better on Series X but both are not ideal. The next Switch is not going to magically be able to run demanding UE5 titles very well, I guarantee they will be locked 30fps and likely with downgraded graphics over the other consoles.

Demanding third party titles should not be the focus, it would be better if Nintendo focus on first party games with games made well enough to run at a solid 60fps with good graphics, rather than push the machine beyond what it can do.

_SilverHawk_237d ago (Edited 237d ago )

Well that's disappointing. I thought the switch 2 was more powerful than a ps5 with better ray tracing from what a lot of people have been saying.

Nintendo have been making weaker systems than their rivals for decades and they and their fans have been championing having weaker hardware. A lot of people loved talking about the portability of the switch and it being the only portable gaming system you can play modern games on but now the market has a lot of other portable gaming systems that's a lot more powerful than a switch and it's successor.

The switch 2 can't rely on just having a lot of ports of games especially from last generation because there are already very powerful portable gaming systems you can play games of every generation in high quality

Fishy Fingers237d ago

I'm not sure what people have been saying that but you're more foolish than them if you believed it.

Nintentional237d ago

Current Switch is woefully underpowered compared to the Xbox Series consoles and PS5, yet there have been numerous months where it still outsells them both, especially in Japan. Switch is weaker than PS4 and Xbox One, yet it still outsold them both. The versatility of the hybrid home console/handheld nature of the Switch 2, coupled with Nintendo’s developer’s unmatched ingenuity, along side some key third party exclusives and multiplats spells success for the Switch successor yet again 😉

BanginTunes237d ago

I knew from that matrix demo that unreal 5 wasn't very good for these consoles. Controversial but after some of the games that came out this year I think I preferred when there were cross gen games because these games with these ugly upscaling systems and inconsistent framerates end up looking worse than if they just had PS4 graphics but high Res and 60fps. Just don't make the games cross gen so you can take advantage of the SSD.

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neutralgamer1992237d ago

Nintendo never want to lose a dime on hardware so expecting more is just asking too much. They should be targeting something below XSX-PS5 not ps4 or Xbox one. We need good bit of power since by the time it launches will be 2024

6-8TF
12GB ram
1440P machine

fr0sty236d ago

Yeah, being "close to last gen in power" was what Switch was supposed to be, and it wasn't. Now they're saying that Switch 2 will still be stuck in last gen, when this gen's hardware is already showing its age. There's no excuse for cheaping out on hardware that much, Nintendo is getting greedy... you know they're still going to expect top dollar for the thing, at least as much as a Series S, which is what it should be comparing itself to.

DigitallyAfflicted236d ago

Is going to be called nintendo1x? Just trolling 🤣

S2Killinit236d ago

Why is Activision leaking information about Nintendo? If I was Nintendo I would be looking at how MS/Activision leaked the info and why. Especially considering that we now know MS wants Nintendo out of console market.

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darthv72238d ago

the current switch is already at around the 1tf level which is just below the PS4/XBO. I think they mean Switch 2 will be more like a PS4 Pro or Series S in terms of being 4tf in power.

purple101237d ago (Edited 237d ago )

It will defo be 4tf. I reckon. Steam deck is 1.6 or something... rog ally is more But also Costs more.

I reckon with Nintendo's buying power they can get price down. But then again, this is Nintendo we're talking about.

But yeh also teraflops isn't everything

babadivad237d ago (Edited 237d ago )

The Switch is several times weaker than the VCR Xbox.

The Tegra X1 chip inside the Switch is capable of running at 1GHz which would produce 512 Gigaflops of performance.

Nintendo has this chip downclocked to around 700 MHz so at maximum (when docked) it's GPU performance is 350~ Gigaflops. VCR box was 1.4 Teraflops by comparison. Just in GPU power, the VCR is around 4 times more performant.

The memory in the Switch is nearly 3 times slower than even the DDR3 memory.

Nintendo downclocked the CPU of the switch as well.

It's no mystery why the Switch wasn't able to keep up with the PS4 and X1 when they were its main competition.

I feel like I have made this point before but if you have a phone that was released within the last 3 years. The hardware in that phone would embarrasse the Switch in performance.

The Switch isn't a 1 Teraflop machine. It's a 350 Gigaflop system at best with anemic memory bandwidth. Even when compared to the original X1.

The PS4 and X1 are in a different league than the Switch

Sciurus_vulgaris237d ago

I remember RockStar developers explicitly stating that the Switch could not run RDR2. Rockstar are generally good at utilizing and pushing hardware. Rockstar not attempting RDR2 on the Switch was enough to prove the system wasn’t in the same power ballpark as the XB1 and PS4.

Relientk77237d ago

I get power and graphics isn't everything, but like c'mon...

TheEnigma313237d ago (Edited 237d ago )

Just like the switch was close to PS3/360 when we were well into the PS4/XBOX1 era. But Nintendo has to stay in a certain price range in order to succeed. They should target a locked 60 fps over graphics imo.

MrNinosan237d ago

And still not a single game on Switch looks and plays as well as games like FFXIII trilogy, Uncharted, Last of Us.

People say Switch is close to PS3/X360 era, but any game even trying to get close to graphics of that quality need ro be run through the cloud.

Just give me a real hardware with Zelda and Mario games looking like Ratchet and Clank. That would make me start playing Nintendo gamea again.

Barlos237d ago (Edited 237d ago )

Come on, even the likes of the Steam Deck and ROG Ally can't run R&C perfectly, and they are higher powered but also expensive in comparison to the Switch. Nintendo will need to balance the power/cost ratio because if the Switch 2 cost in the region of £700 people just aren't going to buy it.

MrNinosan237d ago

@Barlos
You are absolutely right, but I don't want a portable Nintendo console.
My best moments with Nintendo was NES, SNES, N64 and GameCube, and ever since I've only experienced disappointment.
For me personally, I want Nintendo to go back to 1 home console and 1 portable console.
I was never in for the Gameboy, Nintendo DS etc...

However I love Zelda, Xenoblade, Metroid Prime and enjoyed the Marios up to GameCube.
But I don't want to be limited by hardware. Once again, I want Zelda in graphics that wows me, that has full voice cast and 4k 60fps.

raWfodog237d ago

Bottom line, it will sell very well and will eventually have some must-have Switch2 titles. It should also be backwards-compatible with Switch titles.

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Sony States We Will Know More About the "Long-Term Vision" of PlayStation Later This Month

Sony has confirmed that there is something happening later this month and it involves SIE which is the division that operates PlayStation.

Skuletor19h ago

My guess, is they were waiting for the new CEO position to be finalized before their next showcase and now that's out of the way.

neutralgamer199218h ago

Yes I think you are right. They wanted the leadership in place hopefully now they can give a strong showing of what’s to come

S2Killinit17h ago

Its not confirmed that this will involve game announcements.

Cacabunga17h ago

Tbh this claim doesn’t reassure me at all..

Eonjay13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

@S2Killinit

If this is about games that worries me because I thought they were walking away from announcing titles far in advance. For them to say 'Long Term Vision' sounds like we are getting announcements years in advance. I don't want that. Lets hope the long term vision part refers to their goal for the company and that they also give us info on projects reaching fruition in the short term.

Also, this is gonna be where we find out that they are going full PC day and date (or greatly reduced if they don't have the capacity at their studios). Its gonna happen. Why? Because all you have to do is look at Helldivers... fastest selling PlayStation game ever. And they make good games. They will sell.
Now we can fight over whether this will hurt the console space. I don't think so as long as they provide an option that will allow people to come close to maxing out their graphics... ergo the PRO.

StormSnooper6h ago

@Eonjoy
I think MS already made that decision for ALL consoles when they went full PC. There is no way other consoles can stay away from PC when their competitor decides to treat PC and Xbox the same. If eventually Sony and possibly even Ninty don’t go PC, they would be handing an advantage to MS. Unfortunately

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46player18h ago

Sounds good, PS5 Pro preorders. Let’s do this!

Crows9018h ago

I don't get it....we barely got any ps5 exclusives and people already want a refresh??

crazyCoconuts17h ago

When they show GTA6 on the Pro I think you'll get it

VersusDMC16h ago

Pretty sure we got 5 console exclusives this year so far and 3rd party games took advantage of the PS4pro last gen so it will happen with the PS5pro as well.

romulus2316h ago

I don't get it either but people get new iphones the second they come out even though they just bought the previous one which works just fine. Some people just want the latest and greatest no matter what and have the income to do it. If the improvement to games is significant enough I may get one but probably not at launch.

-Foxtrot16h ago

Exactly

I will always be behind the idea that one of the reasons why this gen doesn't feel as much of a leap is because we kind of got spoilt with the PS4 Pro last gen. It was like a teaser to this gen.

Looking back on a technological leap after 7 years is way more impressive than if it was 3 or so.

Crows9010h ago

@versus

You're making this out to be something it isn't. I think it's stupid that sony themselves have barely put out any exclusives that can only run on the ps5 and we already have calls for a "pro" version...that is mindblowingly dumb in my opinion

Einhander19729h ago(Edited 8h ago)

People come up with the silliest reasons to claim the console isn't needed, exclusives made by Sony don't matter, third party games are like 500 to 1 even in the best year.

And since PS1 PlayStation has relied on third party publishing deals, the vast vast majority of games that people see as PlayStation games were made by third party developers published by Sony, Insomniac only recently became a PlayStation studio all their games made before that were as a third party.

PS5 Pro is the same as a graphics card upgrade that no one ever complains about like this, and it's way cheaper performance per dollar than a CPU.

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Profchaos5h ago

Doubt you're getting a pro annoucement in a business update

anast18h ago

Big things right around the corner.

purple10118h ago

Almost optimistic to say, but those leaks of the 6 cancelled games (games that were not even announced)

yeh, maybe some didn't actually get cancelled after all

notachance18h ago

as a long time ps fans I hope they still put great single player games front and center, make your live service games if you have to but don’t force your 1st party studios to make something they don’t want to.. redfall is an unfortunate example of a good studio forced to basically destroy themselves.

Eonjay13h ago

Good points. How would you feel if Sony decided to put their single player games on PC day and date? This would allow their studios making single player games to recoup more money to keep the games coming. If it works with GaaS why not single player?

notachance9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

If they do that, it’s just a matter of time before someone make a console using PC as a platform, then that console would automatically have the full PC games (which means combined PS, PC, and Xbox games) as a library.

In fact, who’s to say steam aren’t working at it right now lol, just imagine it, something with the ease of use of console that can play both ps and xbox games day 1.. combined with the marketbase of steam, there’s the new king of console.

Or better yet, Nintendo would do it and there will finally be one console that can play it all..

Ps: on the topic of games releasing day and date, you could argue that by delaying PC release date there will be a few people who double dipped on buying games, just like what good ol rockstar loved doing with their games..

fr0sty5h ago

PC PS5 ports lack certain features, like the 3D audio and controller haptic support...so there will always be reasons to play PS5 games on a PS5.

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