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Xbox Game Pass made $230 million revenue in one month, most users pay for full subscriptions

Microsoft reveals a rare look at concrete Xbox Game Pass earnings, with the subscription breaking $230 million in subscriber revenues in a month's time.

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Obscure_Observer614d ago

But Jim Ryan said Gamepass is not sustainable.

jesujohn614d ago

This is revenue not profit. There is a cost of running the service.

dumahim614d ago

I get the feeling this isn't the first time this has been explained to him in articles about MS revenues, but it never sinks in.

VenomUK614d ago

FFS! Why on Earth is there illiterate, innumerate people crowing about $230 million revenue? Without any other figures to give it context such as licensing fees, server running costs and advertising, it’s not possible to know if this is fabulously successful or a loss-making venture. What we can definitely assume is that $230 million is not NET profit!

ALSO, whilst so much internal Microsoft info was leaked the fact that the net profit wasn’t revealed alongside this number is because Microsoft likely didn’t share it with the court! Why do you think that is?

darthv72614d ago

Please note this is for "one month". Generally speaking, the contractual negotiations for game pass titles are for a period of time, not a month to month basis. So if a game pub is paid $10m to put their game on GP for 1 year... MS has made that $$ back in one month with 11 more to go before the title is removed. now obviously there are multitude of games that comprise the game pass catalog and all of which take a cut but this is still impressive for just one month.

Only the publishers know if their deal is worth it or not and so far many have said it has been worth it.

fr0sty614d ago (Edited 614d ago )

If it was doing so great, they'd be screaming their profits from the rooftops, instead we get Phil saying they're considering exiting gaming completely if things don't turn around dramatically for GP by 2027 (in other words, this may be their last generation in gaming, and GamePass is their last hope, and so far it hasn't delivered).

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Jin_Sakai614d ago

What the cost to payout developers a month and run the service? This is only half the picture.

blacktiger614d ago

half? YOU MEAN LESS THAN HALF! The contract, the debt based system and so on

RpgSama614d ago

Cost to run the service, cost to include games into the service, cost of day one games, publicity costs, paying salaries, bonuses, benefits to the God knows how many people they have right now based on all the developers and publishers they had and the ones they bought. Licensing fess for the engines they use on their games, any cost related to game development besides employees, do we add the money they put into buying all these developers and publishers in there?

aconnellan614d ago

Why is it we never see this with other companies? Sony releases number of consoles sold, or developers talk about copies sold, but we don’t hear “great but what’s the profit margin?”

Yes revenue isn’t profit, but why is that only an issue when it comes to Game Pass?

jimbo676614d ago (Edited 614d ago )

Xbox game pass has been profitable for years. You take all the revenue you make and now have the buget for the next month. Don't go over that budget and profit. Rinse and repeat.

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ocelot07614d ago

This is why people look at you as a massive troll/blind fanboy. That's revenue not profit their is a massive difference.

EvertonFC614d ago (Edited 614d ago )

You literally have no clue, we've explained this revenue Vs profit argument to you numerous times. Do you have no ability to learn and remember ? You say the same shite everytime 😂🤣

shinoff2183614d ago (Edited 614d ago )

Jesusjohn, Thank you guy for pointing that out. It won't matter though.

Gamerscore2077614d ago

Well how much profit did they make last month? You realize revenue & profit is two different things right?

randomvoice614d ago

It isn't

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ga...

Growth on gamepass has plateaued. Revenue is not profit. They've blown Billions acquiring publishers. There is a reason they don't publish the profit numbers or sale numbers at the end of the day.

jjb1981614d ago

It is when 90% of the games are trash.

fr0sty614d ago

Phil Spencer also said so... "We may exit the gaming business if Game Pass subscribers off consoles don't increase a lot by fiscal year 2027"

northpaws614d ago

@Obscure_Observer

You thought you found an angle to attack but you completely missed the point. Aim better next time.

gold_drake614d ago

its not long term, as phil said in an interview ha.

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purple101614d ago

Ahh so 23million divided by $15 per month = 15.3million subscribers.

They say they have 20-30 million.

So now we know they have as many not paying as those who are. Either through Microsoft rewards which they're stopping... or conversion stacked subs. Or maybe something else I'm not aware of.

roadkillers614d ago

Do you think they are including DLC and add-on purchases in the subscriber revenue because subscribers are still spending money?

ChasterMies614d ago

Even though it looks like most users are paying over $200 per year for Game Pass Ultimate, there a more than a few legacy accounts that paid much less upfront for many years of service to come. Microsoft’s accounting folks might spread that out over time, but realistically, those legacy accounts won’t contribute to monthly revenue until their current subscription term ends. So revenue isn’t a good indication of total subscriber numbers,

dumahim614d ago

Where are you getting your $15 figure from? There's so many variables in how people can pay, it seems there no way to guesstimate a figure to go off of.

purple101613d ago

Well that's an average just for sake of easy math. For example it's 12.99 a month in uk which is about equal to 15dollars.

I believe it's 18dollars in USA. But that's per month, you save if buying 12 or 24month.

So the 15 figure is literally for easy math and a nice middle sum to take a base from

PunksOnN4G614d ago

With all the numbers Leaking about how much they paying Each dev a MONTH and Yearly. its no wonder xbox division has yet to turn a profit and gamepass is far from being profitable at all. with the big leaks and the amount they paying game wont ever be profitable as it is now

Sonic1881614d ago (Edited 614d ago )

Revenue or profit 🤔

PunksOnN4G614d ago

Xbox does not report that info LOL. We know wh. But todays leak shows 230mil but they paying 20-90m for games they 100% aint making a thing

Profchaos614d ago

It's why they have been shoving it down or throats for years now they want it to be their future and allow it to take over the industry the reality is it won't

PhillyDonJawn614d ago

Lol even if you subtract that, that's still great profit.

PunksOnN4G614d ago

@phillyDOn wTF you mean even if we SUB they would still great profit LOL... They paying more then they're making thats not how it works xbox kid really dumb these days

aconnellan614d ago

Why does it matter? When’s the last time you saw any publisher or dev report on profit instead of revenue?

PunksOnN4G614d ago

Sony does it ever Q xbox is the on division they dont announce the profits for but we know xbox has not been profitable since the ABK and UK court fight.

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The Xbox Game Pass Hot Streak is Getting Ridiculous at This Point

The Xbox Game Pass subscription service has been on a generational roll these last few months, and there really doesn't seem to be an end in sight.

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Obscure_Observer16h ago

Oblivion Remake
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
Doom: The Dark Ages
Metaphor: ReFantazio

All of those in just 40 days!

I´m not gonna even mention the upcoming day one games for the rest of the year, because its not even fun anymore.

Gamepass is simply the best thing that happened to gamers!

Even more now with games costing $80+ while economy is in the toilet.

neutralgamer199216h ago

I know some people disagree with you simply because of your username and what you have said in the past but here you are absolutely right there is zero doubt that game pass is the best service available especially with the game prices going up

Microsoft owns the most Studios they own the most IP's so they are the biggest publisher in gaming

lukasmain5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

So why aren't GamePass subs growing at any rate worth mentioning? Why do they need Playstation to keep their whole gaming division afloat?

edit: Yes, GamePass is a great deal, a really great deal. That is for sure.

thesoftware7301h ago

Neutralgamer.

Well said, MS got their ass whooped into a working strategy lol. MS will continue to make consoles for the foreseeable future, but they are now capitalizing on what has always been their forte, Software, and platform integrations.

It's kind of similar to Nintendo in that regard, the Wii U did poorly, and made Nintendo rethink the whole console stance, and lean all the way into where the dominated, Handhelds, they consolidated their console and handheld departments and are now stronger than ever.

neutralgamer19921h ago

I never said GP was growing. It's a good service for those who have signed up

lukasmain13m ago

But that's the thing right. If something is so great, then why isn't everyone jumping on board? The vast majority of gamers do not want to subscribe, and it looks like they'll never subscribe for any meaningful length of time. It's just not going to happen. That's clear now I think. Still the best deal in gaming, for those who like it though. Can't deny that.

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anast15h ago

2/4 are above average games. 1 being way above average. The rest are $20 dollar throwaways and that's if you feel you have to play them. No subservice is worth the rental price.

BeHunted15h ago(Edited 14h ago)

OpenCritic and Metacritic

Oblivion Remake - 82
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 - 92
Doom: The Dark Ages - 85
Metaphor: ReFantazio - 93

What game did you say that's average?

anast14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Scores are given for marketing purposes. There are only 2 games on that list that are actually above average.

Why do people ask questions when they actually are making statements?

neutralgamer199214h ago

Anas

First of all you are objectively wrong according to gamer reviews and media reviews. And 2nd of the all GP is an amazing service if you have the time to play and try different games. It would have been a great service when we were in school. It's great for families on a budget since they can pay one price and their kids can play all sorts of games

As far as for hardcore gamers I signed up years ago and my subscription is ending this year, I will not renew because for me personally it's not worth it since I don't play as many games and I like to buy the games I play. For some weird reason even when I rented from blockbuster (yes I am that old 😁) or gamefly in the back of my mind was always I need to finish it and try something else

We can't deny that MS has the most Studios and IP's under their belt and they have the resources to use them too. Whether that's sequels or remasters like we just got. I think fact is Xbox fans over hype the GP and Playstation fans downplay it. Somewhere in tbe middle is the sweet point

anast14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

@Neutral

Game reviewers are an arm of the marketing team.

Renting is always bad for the customer.

Doom is an average game. Oblivion is a below average game.

Christopher13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Anast, you're flailing here. I would opt out before going further. All of the games are good games, some are just better. Even Doom TDA is over 4.5/5 on PSN store.

Edit: In fact...

Oblivion Remake - 4.66
Clair Obscur - 4.9
Doom TDA - 4.76
Metaphor - 4.74

That's from Sony gamers.

NotoriousWhiz12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

The past few months of xbox game pass have been very good. But how many subpar months were there leading up to this? And how many great games will they have in the future? Game prices are super expensive now but so is xbox game pass and pricing wise, I just don't have the time to play enough games for xbox game pass to be worth it. If they ever release the family and friends package, then maybe.

FinalFantasyFanatic11h ago

You're really reaching here, all of those are good games, I'd happily play any of those for hours, Oblivion might not be that appealing to me, and the new Doom game might be the weaker of the recent DOOM games... But they're still top tier games.

Notellin10h ago

Everything you say is false and misleading.

Lightning7710h ago

Never seen anyone who purposely owns themselves with each and every comment you make. Pretty incredible if you ask me.

andy859h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Scores are given because they're good games. Oblivion is 9.3/10 on PS store and very positive on steam. That isnt a below average game in the slightest. Nothing to do with marketing

InUrFoxHole6h ago

Good Lord my guy. I know you dont even believe some of the stuff you type. Instead of reading a comment and getting tight.... Take a deep breath and exit the comment section. You're better than this.

Y5durp3h ago

lol anast is a fraud

He claims to dislike these games or that they’re low quality just because they’re Xbox games or on gamepass

But on his PSN profile, he has spent countless hours on these games, and gotten numerous trophies

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crazyCoconuts12h ago

Starting from November of last year to now has been incredible if you're on PC GamePass and a COD player. Seems like all the studios are delivering in the same time frame. I'll keep on for the rest of the year and then take a break for a year or so and let the studios catch up.

raWfodog11h ago

Definitely worth it if you’re a day one purchaser of games, and like to zip through them one after the other. I don’t have that much time these days to spend playing games so I will usually wait until they are on sale for 40% or more. I also don’t play through them quickly hence the reason for my huge backlog.

Sonic188111h ago

I agree but none of these games are exclusives. But I agree with games costing over 80 dollars aren't good for Sony and Nintendo fans

Dudububu3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

You do love embarrassing yourself, no? Yeah yeah reviews are for marketing purposes just like for Sony’s blockbusters or that doesn’t count?! Just stop it!

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anast14h ago

It's funny they used the red ring of death for the thumbnail. People don't think this stuff through.

smoothdude13h ago

I'll disagree that this service is worth it. I don't play games as quickly as I used to, so I can still buy games when I want to play them and on a sale and come out on top. Steam also allows me to share my game library with my family. That is worth more in my opinion.

So pick your preference at this point, but I'm still making my way through my game library, and the fact that I can play PS5 games on Steam and Microsoft games on steam and share those games is super cool.

gold_drake11h ago

its not xboxs hot streak, its that we've had good games come out lately and ms gave them money to have their hames on the service.

meanwhile, they've been selling like hotcakes on the other platforms.

Petebloodyonion9h ago

And?
Does the notion that the games are available elsewhere diminish the value of Game Pass offering?

gold_drake5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

no absolutely not, but you know i never said that.

but there are reasons as to why they're on gamepass, lets also not forget that

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A First Look at Bravely Default’s HD Remaster on Nintendo Switch 2 - Marooners' Rock

Sarah previewed Bravely Default Flying Fairy HD Remaster at PAX East 2025 on the Nintendo Switch 2—here’s what stood out during her hands-on demo!

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FTC drops case against Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard deal

The FTC has officially dropped its case against Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision Blizzard.

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slate912d ago

The sweet smell of tax dollars burning

Killa782d ago

From the unemployment this deal caused, no doubt.

Obscure_Observer2d ago

"The sweet smell of tax dollars burning"

They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start. And yet, still, they´d decided to go ahead and double down on their bs to bleed the taxpayer even more.

dveio2d ago

The IRS demands 29bn USD in not paid taxes from Microsoft.

If we're talking bleeding.

1Victor2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@slate: “ The sweet smell of tax dollars burning “

The smell of political donations endorsements under the table.
There I fixed it it for you
We all knew Microsoft plan of “10 years of all systems publishing “ and some of its supporters happy that after all the games would be “exclusive to Xbox “ now that things have changed and Microsoft got humbled by the lost of money from CoD going down from OVER A BILLI🤑N to
MILLI😩NS the sales failing of games that would released on PlayStation and be forced by INVESTORS asking for their M🤑NEY to grow faster than the next 10 years it is obvious that it would be a waste of money to continue this litigation.
Edit:@obscured: “ They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start “

Same as your grievance stages.
Have you passed the bargaining stage yet ? Or are you still on the anger stage 🤣

slate912d ago

I knew my singe bipartisan sentence would bring out the crazies. Thanks for the wall

Astrokis2d ago

Not sure if I’m disturbed or entertained but either way I hope you are alright

OtterX2d ago

I think they're convinced now that MS won't (and can't) withhold releases from conpeting platforms. MS on the street corner now like, "Who wants a taste?!"

PhillyDonJawn2d ago

I wont be too sure of that. Gotta wait and see till after these deals expire

OtterX2d ago

That's how it always starts, "I'll just work this street corner for a short while until I get caught up on my bills..."

Tacoboto2d ago

Oh yeah, they're totally gonna make Xbox exclusives again, with the hardware they're totally committed to selling and making available lol

raWfodog2d ago

As far as I'm aware, the only 'deal' that was discussed was for Call of Duty. Xbox had no obligation to make any of their other games multiplatform. They did that of their own accord.

OtterX1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

**btw, I'm talking about street food vendors, just in case there's any confusion!

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Lightning772d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I've seen videos and talk a online speculating MS long game. Some think that MS multiplat move is use to appease the FTC so they can buy more and is somehow a move that could get Sony to open up their platform. In other words them going third party and letting their games go everywhere. MS possible scheme and ulterior motives, speculated by Jeff Grubb is that putting Xbox store on PS via regulation Which would hurt PS buissness very badly because that 30% cut would be even less or not a cut at all. MS buys more because they're "playing nice" by opening up its platform to Epic store and steam which would force Apple and Sony to open up their ecosystem to other stores like MS.

If that's the case that'll mean as I said before, PS fans buying Cod on PS via MS store would give 100% maybe even 90% of the money being pocketed by MS while Sony's store front wanes when it comes to third party because guess what? MS is buying more third party and preying off the extreme ignorance of the FTC. Manipulation of the FTC and MS overtaking the PS store and customers

My thing is this. I know it's a opinion and speculation but why does Sony have to open up its store or force them to go multiplat? If they still believe in selling their freakin console then let them do it. If they want to provide the best games and the best content for its fans then let them do it!? Why because the competition is trash at selling games and consoles for 14 years now Sony has to change? MS using the ignorance of the FTC to overtake gaming as we know it?

Again it's just talk and opinion but man this seems very, very possible imo.

dveio2d ago

Well, at the time, I actually did think the FTC and CMA did a poor job in court. But also the judge.

Having said that - it is what it is.

If 75bn mergers in any industry ain't a threshold to deny them, then I don't know what is.

As far as your thoughts about other 3rd parties getting taken over in the future go:

I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher.

But smaller studios ... maybe.

However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft.

That isn't to say an announcement of such couldn't drop on Monday already. Because we today know that Microsoft had approached a plethora of other studios in 2018 to 2021, such as IOI, CD Project, etc.

We'll see. And we can't do anything about it. It's up to trade commissions and then probably courts to decide.

Lightning772d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher."

That's the thing MS is ticking all the boxes by not have anything be exclusive so the CMA/FTC see that they're doing "fair practice" in games and content distribution. Which technically greenlits more aquisions or it makes it easier for acquisitions because MS is a mega publisher now.

"However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft."

Hopefully not but them going multiplat could entice Studios to join MS because nothing is not longer exclusive which means more money for them, studio and teams.

We can't do nothing about it but Sony can. They can block xbox games on their console (lose that 30% cut) but Sony won't do that because that's money that will be lost and Sony runs a buissness. That's the only way to hurt or slow down Xbox.

I'm probably over thinking it as I do these things but it's something we shouldn't just ignore and be weary of MS motives here. I'm keeping an eye on them.

Rancegamerx2d ago

The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up. Microsoft’s multiplatform approach is 100% due to past failures and its laughable position in the gaming industry. Their best attempt was a fluke and a lie, brought on by Sony’s missteps and a poorly made machine that broke down too often.

Sony would never allow themselves to be "forced" to do anything; they control their platform and storefront perfectly fine without the need or desire to add an unnecessary Microsoft storefront. Even if, by some flaw on Sony’s part, Microsoft were able to introduce its store on PlayStation, Sony would adapt rather than collapse. Digital storefront competition already exists (Steam, Epic Games Store, Xbox Store), and PlayStation’s business won’t suddenly "wane."

Also, regulators like the FTC don’t operate on ignorance—they actively assess market behavior to prevent monopolies. Microsoft isn’t secretly overtaking gaming with some ultimate scheme. The industry might be changing or shifting (for the worse, in my opinion), but Sony will continue evolving based on market trends, not because of alleged schemes.

Gaming isn’t about one company "playing nice" or another being "forced" to change—it’s about making money with games, something Microsoft has yet to achieve in 25+ years.

Lightning772d ago

"The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up."

That's why I said it was all speculation that's what Jeff Grubb opinion. I made that clear several times. You know what's funny? When Jim was in court ppl got mad at the FTC for protecting Jim Ryan instead of the consumer. Maybe he was right to worry about his business. Now look Releasing Xbox games on PS keeps MS studio an a float. Now Xbox games are all over PS now. Maybe Jim was onto something.

MS is still competing with Sony just in a very different way. The FTC back down mainly means they can buy more and MS next steps can proceed. We'll have to see what happens in the future but I wouldn't be so sure on your stance.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

@Lightning77
MS putting games everywhere is the most consumer friendly thing I've seen a game company do.

dveio2d ago

@InUrFox

What does "putting everywhere" actually mean?

This book has so many pages.

• Xbox was dying in revenue
• Regulators put a 10 year deal on CoD
• Microsoft had to give away the streaming
• Spencer himself only offered 3 yrs initially

And most importantly

• Again, Xbox was dying in revenue

Xbox have the benefit of their actual financial situation giving regulators and courts the impression they release games everywhere, what they actually do.

But for reasons they can't be proven guilty of anything in court.

I'm not judging, it's just what it is.

IF the Series generation would have developed differently and was much more successful, I don't hesitate any second to believe in what Spencer had originally planned to do:

• Make everything Xbox exclusive
• We today know that Spencer had also approached Sega, From Software, CD Project, Nintendo, and even Valve was on their list of buyouts.

MS are playing a card here everyone knows why they are doing it.

Putting Doom "everywhere", which even was it already before it got bought, ain't a MS thing.

It would had hurt them in many ways if they'd put it exclusively to Xbox.

But, no matter what - it is what it is.

Xbox bought themselves back into the game. And I think many people just don't have very fond feelings towards this behaviour, wether on corporate nor private levels.

Let's see how they'll run with it.

In 2030, but most importantly after regulations will have expired we will learn better.

Reaper22_2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Seemed like a lost cause anyway. Microsoft gambled and it paid off big time. That's what you call a big boss move. Sony played a huge part in the success of that acquisition.

wesnytsfs2d ago

Bout time. Pointless from the start.

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