Baldur’s Gate 3 and Elden Ring can only exist outside the current triple-A studio system

If you keep calling for triple-A publishers to take note of the success of Baldur’s Gate 3, and Elden Ring, you’re miss…

[Flawlessmic]

IT CANT BE DONE GUYS, DONT HOLD THEM TO THE SAME STANDARD.

then he proceed to tell us how these much smaller, less funded teams some how managed to what he is saying the more well funded team can't do 😂😂

Can't make this shit up honestly.

Anyone that writes these articles or agrees with them is flat out anti gamer, and the exact reason why so many of our games are designed to suck the blood out of us while providing broken and copy and paste experiences.

And we wonder why these big pubs continue with anti consumers practices, cause you got clowns like this writer making excuses for them.

[MrBaskerville]

It could be done in theory, but none of the established AAA publishers is going to undertake such a massive risk. They like playing it safe, unfortunately.

I do think EA would cash in if they went all in on a huge and deep Mass Effect soft reboot.

[raWfodog]

Yeah, that’s how I took the article. Not that the big AAA studios ‘couldn’t’ make games like BG3 or ER, but that they play it too safe to go out creative limbs. They design barebones games with planned DLCs to fill-in-the-blanks and MTXs to nickel-and-dime for extra revenue. Trying to convince corporate suits to give developers time and free rein to be creative would be an exercise in futility.

[anast]

This

[fsfsxii]

Bootlicker mentality. Demand better games regardless.

[anast]

and this

[Hofstaderman]

I’m sorry, these games should be the standard we should come to expect especially from the bigger AAA developers and publishers.

[ravinash]

I don't think its to much to expect a game that works on day one and it a full game.

[Soulsborne]

Cringe.

[sosro]

What the F did I just read?

[porkChop]

Games like BG3 and Elden Ring that overdeliver used to be the standard. This isn't some crazy concept that's never been possible. These much larger studios have more funding, more manpower, and often just as much if not more time. There is no excuse. They want you to believe they can't do it because they want to keep underdelivering while charging full price, then sell you the rest of the game piecemeal.

[Flawlessmic]

Yep prime example is diablo 4.

Longer dev time than bg3, 9000+ devs compared to larians 400-450 and a way bigger budget and what do we get, a good but not great game that's done nothing to push the industry or that genre of game forward while having a bucket load of mtx.

but yea we're supposed to feel sorry for little blizzard who shouldn't have to compete with the games Industry giant larian with there huge backing an absolutely ridiculous staff count, well supposedly so if you you listen to these other devs on twitter shitting themselves at the though of being outdone and now need to step up there game.

It's ridiculous!!

[Stanjara]

Oh you beat me to it. Absolute trash.
I think that 4k people deliberately made the game worse.

[talocaca]

Well, sadly that crappy port of Red Dead Redemption seems to be selling well 🤷‍♂️

Developers push it because they get away with it...

[Stanjara]

That's actually a good game and worth a buy at $30 easy, but yeah.

[Ninver]

Why would you pure millions into a games development and not produce your best work? Is it incompetence or lack of creativity?

[ChasterMies]

The big publishers see games as on-line storefronts. They really don’t give two shits about the game itself.

[anast]

It's mainly the lack of creativity out of those two options.

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

You have it backwards: they are NOT a new standard for AAA, they are just the old standard for AAA with modern production value (ie graphics).

The traditional cost of modern graphics has eroded time for actual game mechanics to be refined.

It’s wonderful when studios find ways to still make complete AAA 10’s at launch while still investing fully in aesthetics.

[Stanjara]

Diablo 4: 6 years development by 9000 individuals.
Can't make a gem tab.

[GameBoyColor]

I don't see why the author of this had to rope elden ring into this article lol. From already established the formula, which are already being used by other studios at this point. It's not like they are outside of AAA levels either, being funded by bamco, sony, and activision for their games.

[Snookies12]

Fully agreed. I loved Elden Ring, and put 100+ hours into it. However, that doesn't make it anything more than yet another Souls game. Only real difference is that it has a horse and open world. It was barely any different from previous From Software games. Would love for them to do another 3D Dot Heroes, or something original like that again. Would be a nice breath of fresh air from their studio.

[thorstein]

Came here to say this.

Couldn't understand the Elden Ring reference.

BG3 really is a standard setting game, even though the devs said not to expect the same from other studios.

[phoenixwing]

I'm sorry but fromsoftware is definitely AAA at this point. Do you think anyone at Bandai says no to their budget now that every game they make sells like crazy? They're not some small time people Bandai Namco is a giant corporation. In fact I usually buy from Bandai for the very reason that most of their games are not only decent to good but they're also usually made complete.

Edit: I looked it up and bandai is the publisher of dark souls but not owners. My bad. My statement still stands that whoever from software goes to will give them whatever budget they want.

[CrimsonWing69]

So, we shouldn’t demand games that clearly can be made in this day and age because… why, exactly?

This industry is full of greed and I’d say more so than any other media industry. I feel like they’re forcing consumers to accept and pay for games that are made to somewhat emulate the mobile game market in terms of GaaS or NFTs, and we’re told due to game development cost it has to be this way.

Then when a developer literally makes a game that’s a reminder of what games were made like back in the day and still can be, we shouldn’t demand other devs to follow suit?

How the f*ck does that make sense?