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Baldur's Gate 3 reminds players what it was like to get finished games at launch

Baldur's Gate 3 is an exception to a defacto rule that AAA games normally require multiple patches post-release to feel complete. Fans want more games to

Abriael297d ago (Edited 297d ago )

I really don't think that releasing a finished game after a year of early access equates to simply releasing a finished game at launch.

Especially, not what it "was like" since early access wasn't a thing when games normally released 100% finished at launch.

Don't get me wrong, I love BG3, but this article is based on a pretty massive false equivalence. Larian started getting people's money *way* before the game was even close to finished.

Abriael297d ago

My bad, nearly 3 years of early access. Boy, time flies.

DaCajun297d ago

Stop it, you're speaking too much common sense in your comments, adove and below. We can not have these acts of common sense on this overly fanboy Corpo butt kissing site.

I repeat please stop before a cease and desist letter is sent to you for using common sense on the premises.

dumahim297d ago

The game launched basically finished last week. How long of an early access there was is irrelevant. It's just a paid beta that people can join in on if they want.

Abriael297d ago

Ah yeah, a paid beta totally isn't equivalent to releasing unfinished. You do understand that you can "join if you want" even when a game officially releases?

It's literally the same thing with a different name. The only real difference is that Baldur's gate 3 was released unfinished and remained unfinished for 3 years. Early access is literally the by-the-book definition of releasing unfinished.

Lol, the things you read on the internet. 😂

Zombieburger638297d ago

And unlike most ea/betas they actually took feedback and improved the game. Overall the choice of ea benefited everyone and the game.

JEECE297d ago

@abriael

I agree BG3's launch isn't the same as a game releasing feature complete with no major bugs without an early access period, but I do think we can distinguish between a game having an early access release where the devs are explicit that the game isn't finished, and a game "launching" in an unfinished state. Early access may be another way of releasing an unfinished game, but at least then the devs are being honest with the audience and providing a warning that the game isn't feature complete.

Sonic1881297d ago (Edited 297d ago )

"Larian started getting people's money *way* before the game was even close to finished."

And it worked and they made a finish game that's almost perfect. Sometimes it's hard for me to believe how great this game is. I haven't played a game almost this perfect in years. I haven’t experience one bug in this game and even the 60 fps is perfect depending on your hardware

Abriael297d ago (Edited 297d ago )

No one's disputing that it's great. But it 100% launched unfinished. And way less finished than most games.

Calling it "early access" doesn't make it less so.

The moment you ask money for your game is what counts, the distinction between early access and official release is absolutely limited to semantics. And they didn't even ask for less money during early access like most developers do. We all paid full price.

To the consumer, there's zero difference between a game released in early access at full price and a game released unfinished.

VersusDMC297d ago

So you're saying because it worked every developer should make half the game and release it for 60 then release the rest of the game 3 years later?

And if you google baldur's gate 3 bugs you will still see a lot of bugs being reported.

Sonic1881297d ago

"And if you google baldur's gate 3 bugs you will still see a lot of bugs being reported."

It's minor compared to other games like Bethesda games

Name Last Name297d ago

@Abriel

I would say early access is a mutual agreement between dev and gamers that a game is being actively worked on and they’re not BS-ing us.

Unlike other devs who release “complete” games only to act surprised when gamers call them out on missing features.

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NotoriousWhiz297d ago

I get your point, but labels matter. When I look for a game, and I see Early Access, I know that the game isn't ready for prime time and so I'll add it to my wish list and patiently wait for the full launch. When I see a game is not in early access, I expect it to be completed and any updates are relatively minor.

VersusDMC297d ago

So developers can launch half a game full of bugs for full price if they say it's early access?

And the game still has bugs as well if you google it. There a save game bug IGN reported on

https://www.ign.com/article...

Abriael297d ago

Labels matter only to those who like to discuss semantics.

To the customer, it's exactly the same thing.

Crows90296d ago (Edited 296d ago )

So tell me the difference between optional support/pre order/early purchase options and what larian started?

Many games that release take money from pre orders way before the game is finished.

But I do find it funny how you exaggerate this massive false equivalence to a small detail AND way before the game was even closed to finish...since well...it was playable.

The only difference is technology allows what larian did now and it wasn't possible before. The game never claimed to be finished until it launched...no false equivalence just your nitpicking.

Preorders ask for money before a game is finished. You're not making any real sense...you're pissed the game is doing well for some odd reason.

blacktiger296d ago (Edited 296d ago )

at least it wasn't launched unfinished cough* redfall
you want to release in ten years go ahead but stop doing constant delay when you could've shut up and then open you mouth near launch.

Till then please launch a finished game like BG3

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Charlieboy333297d ago (Edited 297d ago )

Oh FFS. Playstation first party has been providing complete experiences every single damn time! Uncharted (all of them), God of War (both of them), Last of Us (both of them), Ghost of Tsushima, Spider-Man (both of them), Horizon (both of them), Days Gone, Ratchet and Clank (all of them) and more have ALL been completely playable as is without patches.....as are PS games going back generations.

I can put any of their discs in and play all the way through without a patch. Days Gone is the only one that improved by any margin post patch and even then it wasn't a dealbreaker....just a bunch of fannies overeggagerating the problems ignored in other non Sony games. Baldur's gate is also in need of patches....I saw a damn dwarf turn his head in a cutscene while his beard stayed in place.....came right off his damn chin.

This Baldur's gate c**ksucking is pathetic....and the constant downplaying or complete ignorance if Sony's efforts and accomplishments in the media is really starting to piss me off. When Spider-Man 2 releases I will bet there is not a single article stating how good it is out the gate without having to be 'fixed'.

We get it, Baldur's gate is an exceptional game, but it is not some new standard of quality......waiting on the "Baldur's gate saved my marriage" articles.

Rant over.

spicelicka297d ago

lmao both you and the article author are cringe. The author literally wrote 2 paragraphs off of a reddit discussion, like that's an "article" these days. And you managed to shoehorn your Sony fanboy hardon in a post that has nothing to do with Sony. The article doesn't even mention Sony or PlayStation nor have I seen "constant downplaying or complete ignorance if Sony's efforts and accomplishments in the media", especially when it comes to the topic of releasing finished games. Did you forget that God of war was nominated for Game of the year last year? Omg so much downplaying and injustice by the media for poor Sony, you must not be able to sleep at night!!

Charlieboy333297d ago

Yeah yeah....if you don't understand what I'm talking about then rather shut up. This just happened to be the time and place I got triggered to vent on things that have been annoying me more and more lately.

Soulsborne297d ago

3 years of early access.
That right goes to Elden Ring.

Crows90296d ago

Nah...elden ring open world is nice at first but not so nice after 1 or 2 sections of it.

Repeated dungeons, etc. Great game and combat like all fromsoft games but some clear flaws later on in the game.

Haven't played bladurs gate to the end yet so not saying one is better than the other by any means. This isn't a pissing contest between great games. And if it is...then that's a nice piss to have.

JEECE296d ago

Did they ever fix the issue where you have to play the PS4 version of the game on PS5 in order to get a stable framerate?

Jinjojuice49296d ago

Nintendo and sony first party games have been doing this for years.

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Baldur's Gate 3's Side Quest Design is its Secret Weapon

With a game like Baldur's Gate 3, a number of factors make it successful—but perhaps none are as powerful as its side quest design.

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Popsicle4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Article makes a great point and I agree with it but is spoiler heavy. It should be marked. If you haven’t played through the game be warned as it even spoils parts of act 3.

Dirty_Lemons4d ago

Thanks for this dude, I am very interested in playing when I have time and am trying to avoid spoilers.

dakarli23h ago

This game rocks, everything is quality, and I love the cutscenes, which remind me of Dragon Age Origin.

https://kodi.software/

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Baldur's Gate 3 PS5 Physical Deluxe Editions Delayed Due to Production Issues

While we were so hoping to not have to update owners of the console physical Deluxe Edition with any further news of delay, we’ve now run into more production issues which means that players who pre-ordered their PS5 North America copy that was expected to ship later this month, will now have to wait until July before they can get their hands on them.

shinoff21836d ago

Got that email like 2 weeks ago. Tbh I'm not tripping. I understand sht happens. I'm just glad they changed their minds on the physical release

Popsicle6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I with you. I got the email is well. Happy to eventually own a physical copy and glad it’s not digital only.

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Nothing Can Scratch A New Gamer’s Itch For Another Baldur’s Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3 is so good it might actually be a bad place to start with RPGs.

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Armaggedon6d ago

Baldurs Gate 3 was great, but I dont think it is as crazy as people make it out to be. I actually think Starfield is closer to being a crazy insane once in a lifetime game, but Im ready for the flak Im about to get.

AndrewM6d ago

If you think that then you either A never played Bg3 or B never watched anyone else play it, or C you don't know anything about the game, or D you played it and have no idea of the marvel it is in every single aspect of game design. It doesn't matter what game you compare it to, it doesn't hold a candle. Let alone starfield.

Armaggedon5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

A. Ive played it thrice
B. Played with others, so there are moments of watching
C. Know more than I would care to about the game
D.
Thats quite bold, seeing as there are an inumerable amount of games for it to contend with. I also know plenty of people with their own gripes with the game.

As someone that creates things, and has actively sought to gather intel and understanding, I would say Baldurs Gates very nature makes it so it would have a hard time sitting upon the lofty throne you have given it. Similar to a Bethesda game, it is a game with a very large number of permutations and variables to consider, despite being smaller in scale by direct comparison.

Exemplary mastery of design philosophy is more certain to appear in a game that is for confined. One of the reasons I see Starfield the way I do is simply Bethesedas approach of breaking the rules. Anyone should hopefully know that you just dont try to fit a Bethesda game into a space game, but they found a way to pull it off. Do to the nature of large scale open world games, whether it is efficient or not depends on the angle one is looking at.

Many people would tell me immediately that loading screens and empty planets prove that they failed to pull it off. If you play Starfield like a conventional game yes

Armaggedon5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Part 2:
Many people would tell me immediately that loading screens and empty planets prove that they failed to pull it off. If you play Starfield like a conventional game yes, it will seem disjointed and lazy; however, to those who realize what Bethesda were going for, you will see that the game is severely underestimated. The idea of God is hated and loved by many, and there is much controversy. Starfield is closer to that idea than people even notice.