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Starfield & Baldur's Gate 3 have reignited the quantity vs quality debate around RPGs

There's an RPG liker's apocalypse looming on the horizon: Baldur's Gate 3 and Starfield are launching within a month of each other, and each is looking like a whopper.

Flawlessmic711d ago

I think bloat is a big problem in games today which is why as much as I love open world games, when I see linear or semi open games I get excited and generally speaking 90% of the content in there is meaningful and not just mind numbing collectathons and terrible sides quests or bases.

Very few open world games get it right, gta series, red dead, the witcher 3, elden ring, botw are all top class examples of getting it right.

Ghost of tsushima, horizon, skyrim and fall out are good examples of it done right aswell.

Given larians experience with the divinity games I think there gonna hit the nail on the head for both quality and quantity.

Starfield will depend, for me I'm a story gamer so I'm looking forward to the main quest and all the different faction quests and doing meaningful stuff of new planets.

The dead planets that are used for mining and what not, basebuilding hold no value to me.

I'm confident starfield and BG3 will be great but generally speaking gaming has a bloat problem full of brain numbing stuff.

Give me a fantastic 20- 45 hrs game and I'm loving it, usually once you go past that it's dries up quickly, only the games I mentioned above for the most part have kept the fun going for double that time

RpgSama711d ago

I just do not have the time anymore, the people that do can definitely immerse themselves in those games, I no longer can, between a wife, full time+ work, 2 daughters I can barely play 3 to 4 hours per week if lucky.

Some weeks I spend more time reading about games and gaming news than actually gaming

Si-Fly711d ago

Same story here really but that’s why I love Gamepass, I’ll probably never finish Starfield but I get to fuck around with it along with all the other games on there 👊🏻

VenomUK711d ago (Edited 711d ago )

As I've got older I have less time and less patience for games that are unnecessarily hard or bloated with content that you're forced to go through so that you get 'value'. But I don't think RPGs are the same as by nature they are meant to be full expansive worlds. The key point is that you shouldn't be forced to experience it all to complete the main quest line, however if you enjoy the game worlds your experience will be enriched from exploring through the side quests as they will be rewarding in their own right.

@RpgSama "Some weeks I spend more time reading about games and gaming news than actually gaming." Definitely the same for me, I sometimes think that 'reading about games' is my hobby!

shinoff2183711d ago

Working full time, 4 kids, wife I feel ya but I work second shift so I'll usually game after work for a few to 4 hours, wake up by 8 9 am and see what's up. Tired some

Crows90711d ago (Edited 711d ago )

One game at a time. If it's good...doesn't matter how big it is. You can always beeline through the story in most open worlds.

Got a few more daughters and same situation. Sometimes I do spend more time reading about games than playing but I'm about to enjoy my 1-3 hours of tears of the kingdom. Focus on main story but no rushing. Not like I got to get a review out.

Good thing about less play time...there will always be great games to play next.

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Goosejuice711d ago

Bg3 is already pretty good with its early access on steam. Only get to get better with its full release. Starfield will be good as well. It will come with its usual Bethesda problems, but the modding community for Bethesda is some of the best. Don't be surprised when a mod comes out that fills the rest if planets with actual life forms.

shinoff2183711d ago

I know what you mean flawless. For me though I'm kinda mixed. I've enjoyed dragon quest 11, star ocean 6 recently and put 150 200 hours into each. To me it's just a game by game basis. I like open world games and linear ,semi linear.

Demetrius711d ago

I agree I get tired of the same old roam around in pretty cities etc with little to nothing to do in them, open world games need more depth nowadays, we have good ones like what you mentioned but they been so mf scarce

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anast711d ago

BG3 is top-tier RPG stuff while Starfield is looking like a another "modders please help us" game.

Crows90711d ago

Yeah...
I got to play and beat
Tears of the kingdom
Jedi survivor
Hogwarts legacy
Dead space and re4 remakes
Dead Island 2
Ff16 maybe
And got a few more on my PS5 to get thriught after that. Not to mention the games on my PC like Diablo 4 and the ones on my steam deck.

Starfield is looking like a holiday game for me

Tapani711d ago

Larian has always been both, quality and quantity. Recently finished OS1, played OS2 first actually. Both extremely good games and can be played in any order. My brother played all the Divinity games, and I've watched longplays of them, clearly Original Sin is a step up from their previous games, OS2 another one up, and Baldur's Gate 3 yet another masterpiece.

Bethesda is quantity. Their stories, writing, content etc. is pretentious, superficial, shallow and generic. Bethesda does know how to create an interesting combination of a world, put music in it and combine a decent atmosphere with some nice vistas. Bethesda games always make a great first impression, a splash, but they become stale fast.

Larian games on the other hand, they give an okay first impression, but become increasingly interesting and complex as you go forward. They have that "need to know what happens next, where can I go next, what's behind that corner!" feel to them, like old school games used to have. Bethesda games are just "okay, another forest, another generic NPC, another generic town with some generic dialogue and dead eyed characters"

Godmars290711d ago

Being back multiple story paths and ending, then we can talk.

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