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Can we have adult conversations about video games?

Final Fantasy XVI takes a mature turn, tackling complex themes with depictions of sex and violence. Are video games ready for adult conversations about content?

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Flawlessmic697d ago (Edited 697d ago )

Umm gaming was ready a long time ago.

Gta says hello and countless other games.

But yes ff16 story based of the demo is gonna be bloody amazing!!!

It was always the dumb media who wasn't ready and that Jack Thompson flop if I'm remembering his name correctly

__SteakDeck__697d ago

@Flawlessmic Since you played the demo and it surpassed your already high expectations and you loved it. What do you think the Meta score might be?

Flawlessmic697d ago (Edited 697d ago )

Ahh look for me personally, I know already this is a 10.

I knew it after the first few trailers and yoshi p and his team being behind it, but yea demo blew my socks of in everyway, it's everything I had hoped it would be.

I can't see how it doesnt get into the 90s but weirder things have happened. I'm sure people and the media will nit pick at it.

Either way I don't really concern myself with meta scores, It could score a 60 for all I care, as long as the game lives up to even half of what has been shown and what I played I'll be happy.

I like to make own judgements by playing games.

Realistically though I'm expecting high 80s as a minimum.

Did you play the demo, what did you think of it?

CrimsonWing69697d ago

It’s going to get a fair share of 9’s and 10’s. It’ll also get a bunch of 8’s and then you know there’s going to be some d*ck head that goes for site traffic and gives it like a 6 or below killing the average.

MrNinosan697d ago

Stevivor will give it a 4.
Other Microsoft loving outlets will give it 8.
The "real" outlets will give it 9-10.

My prediction is 91.

If this was exclusive to Nintnedo, it would get 98.

notachance697d ago

If the rest of the game holds up to the demo I see 85-90 aggregate score. I hope it’s not like FFXV where the first 1/3 of the game you got full fleshed story and open-world and suddenly it got super linear and rushed as if they ran out of budget halfway through the game.

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anast697d ago

Okay. I will download the demo.

CrimsonWing69697d ago

Have you ever heard of The Witcher?

Elda697d ago

Mature video games have been out out for many years now.

Gardenia697d ago

First console I bought was the PS1 back in the 90s. Games like Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid and Vagrant Story had already mature content. That guy from the article must be new to gaming.

Azurite697d ago

There's been games with depictions of sex and violence since at least the 80's...

rlow1697d ago

The question isn’t that there aren’t adult themes in games. It’s wether we can have adult conversations about mature games. Without it devolving into whose consoles better or which company is better or worse.

isarai697d ago

We can but we'd all be ignoring the elephant in the room, everyone knows deep down that they want to scream to the heavens about how the best gaming console of all times is easily the intellivision

raWfodog697d ago (Edited 697d ago )

That's what I was going to ask. I like to think that the common thread that binds us and brings us to this site is that we are all gamers. Of course we are not all going to like the same games but we can acknowledge each other's passion for our shared pastime, and we can agree to disagree on certain topics without insults and put downs.

ChasterMies697d ago

We cannot. Too many gamers cling to pithy phrased like “git gud” and will readily defend pay-to-win micro-transactions. How many times does a PC player say the best solution is to buy the most expensive video card? The game companies support this because they want whales to buy more. The gaming media rarely touches on it for fear of upsetting the fan base.

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“We Apologise And Would Like To Correct This”, Says Analyst Who Claimed FF 16 Only Sold 3.5M Copies

Final Fantasy 16 has likely sold more than 3.5 million copies.

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GamerRN49d ago

The time happens! Never them is right when report.

VenomUK49d ago

The analyst is called Hideki Yasuda. In 2021 he claimed the 'Fall of PlayStation in Japan is “Definitive”'
https://nichegamer.com/rese...

In 2024 he Hideki Yasuda said The Sony Group may see PS5 as a failure and the envisioned goals are unattainable.
https://www.resetera.com/th...

Knushwood Butt49d ago

Curious as to what this means:

'The Japanese branch of GamesIndustry.biz (Translation: DeepL, adjusted)'.

What is DeepL?

Nerdmaster49d ago

@Knushwood Butt
It looks like you also don't know that Google is.

Pro-tip: enter google.com, type "What is DeepL?" and press enter.

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oldenjon49d ago (Edited 49d ago )

FF16 sales the time, and tbh game the time

S2Killinit49d ago (Edited 49d ago )

What about all the damage he did? People were talking like this game was a flop.

StormSnooper49d ago

I think that is why he is apologizing. He wants to make sure he doesn’t get sued for defamation.

badz14949d ago

SE and Sony definitely should sue him

Babadook750d ago (Edited 50d ago )

This isn’t news. The analyst could be right or wrong. Square Enix hasn’t said anything.

mandf50d ago

He admitted he was wrong didn’t have knowledge of the actual sales

Babadook749d ago (Edited 49d ago )

When there is knowledge of actual sales you wouldn’t need an analyst. He more or less admits his analysis is wrong but that’s bound to happen in that field. They make predictions that they hope will be useful. This wasn’t.

Anyway, it seems people are taking my comment as an attack on this game. I like the game and hope it does well. Hopefully FF gets a resurgence. They pretty much deserve that. I just think this story is of no importance.

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tiron850d ago (Edited 50d ago )

Obviously a game that stayed on the top ten then regularly returned to the top 10/20 and then released on PC would have sold more than .5m more than the first week sales.

Final Fantasy 16 Sold 3 Million Copies During Launch Week
"Square Enix said the milestone includes both physical and digital sales on PlayStation 5."
https://www.ign.com/article...

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pwnmaster300050d ago

lol even with facts certain people will still not believe it

The Wood49d ago

@pwnmaster3000

They don't wanna believe....... narratives need to be upheld at all costs

Elantregaless49d ago

Steam user scores and Playstation scores indicate otherwise.

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Elantregaless49d ago

Exactly. The analyst does not mean anything.
As far as we know the official sales are still at 3 million.

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thorstein50d ago

Analyst is wrong again. Shocking.

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CrashMania50d ago

Always thought it was the case, sold 3 million in the first week and 300k on PC from the last numbers we got, so only 200k extra copies in almost 2 years on PS5 and since the PC release?

Make it make sense lol

pwnmaster300050d ago

Doesn’t matter. People will still believe the mistake. How are you an analyst and get it wrong?

jznrpg50d ago

Analysts have agendas so you can not trust what they say in articles.

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JEECE49d ago

Yep. You better believe in two years when people are making an argument about big AAA games not selling enough, or PS5 exclusives not selling, or Japanese games not selling, or whatever the dumb argument happens to be, this "number" will get cited as evidence. The retraction never has the same reach as the false story.

mandf49d ago

That’s why propaganda works

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Final Fantasy XVI Sales Reach 3.5 Million, Lagging Behind Final Fantasy XV’s Launch Numbers

Lifetime sales of Square Enix's action role-playing game, Final Fantasy XVI, have reached 3.5 million copies.

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Cacabunga58d ago

A terrible game, but good it sold well then they keep the franchise alive. I hope they do better next time with an RPG and not a dmc clone..

CrimsonWing6958d ago (Edited 58d ago )

I think they’re saying it underperformed and isn’t selling well. It was 3 mill near launch, it only did 500k more and that’s even after a PC launch.

jukins58d ago

This article is a lie. They announced 3m in a week on ps5. It finished top 20 for the year it release and continued top 20 throughout 2024. By this logic it sold over 3m on launch week and then never sold another copy until pc release.

S2Killinit58d ago

Also, They are not considering that this was exclusive to PlayStation. Am I correct in this?

If so, its clickbait.

CrimsonWing6958d ago

@S2Killinit

They mention the PC version… like 3 mill was the announcement, like a month after release. Now, after the PC release there’s 3.5 mill units sold.

Square has already come out saying this and Rebirth underperformed. Considering how much they spent on development and marketing and the way sales aren’t moving to recoup cost, it’s a little concerning to me, especially as a mega-fan of this franchise.

I didn’t think 16 was the worst game I played, but outside of some epic boss battles and the Benedikta arc… I found it rather boring. The DLC have the best boss fights in a game I’ve played in a while though.

RaiderNation58d ago

Lol no, it's not a terrible game. Far from it actually. It's just not a FF game.

CosmicTurtle58d ago (Edited 58d ago )

The problem for me is that the combat was not varied or customisable enough to last the game’s play time.

Otherwise, I agree with RaiderNation it is the reason I held out from buying it until it initially, is it was not the genre I wanted. I am happy for a series to change and grow but I want an RPG to some extent. It’s a shame because it handled narrative and dialogue pretty well.

Nooderus58d ago

I really didn't enjoy it. Combat was trash, main character trash imo.

Cacabunga58d ago

You buy a game called FF to realize it’s something else is utter lie. I would never have bought it if it was called something else. The game is so boring and poorly exexuted. Beginning and ending are the good sides of it. Rest is trash

RaiderNation58d ago

@Cacabunga

What did you do? Walk into Gamestop and completely blind buy it without reading any of the reviews/previews or watching any of the YouTube reviews? Hell the game had a demo you could try out before deciding to buy! Don't give me the whole "wow I was completely blindsided by this and had no idea" excuse. That's on you. If you didn't like it, fine. Opinions vary. But don't act like you were a victim to some bait and switch attempt because that's just not reality.

Cacabunga58d ago (Edited 58d ago )

I am an old time FF fan so i never want to spoil any episode. I didnt even want to finish the demo. I liked the feel of it but i didnt expect it would turn into a pure action game.

No i dont watch reviews because they are subjective.

Its ok i didnt like the game things like this happen. Game was just ridiculous, side quests are absolute trash. I have platinum trophy I know what i am talking about.

I supported it as a FF fan, i hope they do better next time.

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Nooderus58d ago

Agreed, worse than ff13 by far

MeteorPanda58d ago

if you played ff 14 this really did feel like an improved mmo...that is 10 years old.

first ff entry l barely finished and traded in. Bloody horrible storytelling. The story was okay, the execution was cringe af.

Amazingly however the first part was the best part, the demo being the highlight.

FernDiggidy58d ago

Terrible is fucking insane. Keep swallowing crayons

AnotherGamer57d ago

You really can't be serious lol

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Npugz758d ago

Are you serious? This was not a terrible game at all it was very good!

FernDiggidy58d ago

Good game for sure, certainly not terrible. Very good is debatable.

ravens5258d ago

Great game. Doesn't seem like PC helped at all of these numbers are correct.

JEECE58d ago

Yeah, these numbers are a little hard to believe. If it sold 3 million in the first week and had even a semi-decent launch on PC, for these numbers to be right you'd have to assume it sold basically zero copies on PS5 after its launch week. Given it was in the NPD Top Ten in its second month, and the top twenty its third month, that's hard to believe, even if I'm sure they anticipated it charting higher for longer. That's to say nothing of sales boosts it probably got from PSN sales.

nommers58d ago

The link that the article is mentioning doesn’t give much context. It likely needs good translation as well.

raWfodog58d ago

I hope this helps the 'complete' edition go on sale for a huge discount. It went on sale a while ago for only about 25% off but I'm waiting for that 50% off (or higher) sweet spot.

GhostScholar58d ago

It underperformed because it was on less platforms I get no one wants to admit
That

Elda58d ago

It wouldn't have sold that much that better had it also released on XB, people on XB would have only played FFXVI if it was on Gamepass.

DivineHand12558d ago (Edited 58d ago )

If it has the opportunity to launch on all platforms at launch then yes the sales would have been better but it is difficult to say by how much. It would have benefited from the excitement and marketing in that window.

One thing to bear in mind is that it would be a struggle to get the game running on the Xbox because of the series S. The game does not hit a stable 60 on either the base PS5 or PS5 Pro. Based on Digital foundry, it only hits 60 FPS during fight sequences on base PS5. The game is also set to have dynamic resolution so instead of prioritizing frame rate in non battle sequences, the game prioritizes resolution making it difficult for the PS5 Pro to maintain 60 FPS as the game tries to reach 4k native instead of using PSSR. Square really should have updated the game.

I am not saying all this to be unfair to the Xbox because I believe I am one of the most fair users towards that platform on this site. I am just giving you my honest opinion based on my experience with the game.

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Just Let Me Be the Big Monster: A Final Fantasy 16 Rant

Players just want to smash wild Chocobos into oblivion.

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DivineHand12559d ago (Edited 59d ago )

Final Fantasy 16 was a great game. It had one of the best combat systems out of many JRPGs. It does have some elements of it that could be better, like what the author of this article said. It would have been nice to be able to use fully transformed Eikons at will like in the previous games. I believe the FF13 and FF7 remakes were the last to allow players to do this. Let us hope FF17 will allow players to use summons at will.

POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT: There are some other elements story-wise that could have been better. I would have preferred if Clive was more militant, and he rebelled against the non-Bearers much like Spartacus. That would have had me more invested in the story than him not wanting to change the status quo despite the harsh treatment Bearers across the kingdom faced from their slavers. I also think the FF games in general need to start distancing themselves from these bittersweet endings and give us a happier ending. Yes, you defeated the bad guy, but what is the point if the main characters can't enjoy the victory?