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Xbox needs to own RPGs if it's to stand a chance

Why Xbox could look to the RPG genre to help turn around its fortunes ahead of the upcoming Xbox Showcase.

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Magog113d ago

RPG is used so loosely these days. What makes Starfield an RPG? God of War has stats and builds and hitpoints and various magic abilities. Is that an RPG too? Not to mention that almost every Japanese RPG comes to Playstation but rarely Xbox.

Obscure_Observer113d ago

"RPG is used so loosely these days. What makes Starfield an RPG?"

Todd Howard. RPG legend.

"God of War has stats and builds and hitpoints and various magic abilities. Is that an RPG too?"

Little RPG elements throwed in the mix doesn´t turn an action/adventure game into a RPG game, ask Cory.

"Not to mention that almost every Japanese RPG comes to Playstation but rarely Xbox."

Under Phil Spencer, Xbox has 99% of all *mainstream* JRPG franchises and under his leadership, Xbox is now the go to console brand for high-profile RPGs with many first party AAA RPG foucsed studios.

Competition can´t come close as far first party AAA RPG games are concern. Facts!

shinoff2183113d ago

I think your absolutely right. Ps does still get alot of under the radar rpgs especially jrpgs but xbox is coming on strong.

enkiduxiv112d ago

They have the studios for sure, but they haven’t released anything since those acquisitions. So far, Obsidian, the best western rpg developer in their portfolio, has released a multiplayer survival game and a point and click adventure game since their acquisition.
They also acquired Arkane, a studio know for making the best immersive sims in the business and they have released Redfall since the acquisition, enough said there.

Bethesda has Starfield coming out, but each Bethesda release has trended away from rpg mechanics in favor of streamlined action adventure elements since Fallout 3. Todd Howard has claimed that they want to return to their rpg roots with Starfield, but we all know about Todd Howard’s sweet, sweet promises.

Of course, you could point to Avowed, Elder Scrolls 6, and Outer Worlds 2 as proof that Microsoft plans on focusing on detailed single player RPGs and not looter shooter skinner boxes for GamePass. I guess we’ll have to… wait until the next e3… to hear about that though.

Obscure_Observer112d ago

@enkiduxiv

"So far, Obsidian, the best western rpg developer in their portfolio, has released a multiplayer survival game and a point and click adventure game since their acquisition."

Pentiment is a narrative-driven 2D role-playing video game, and not a point and click adventure.

"They also acquired Arkane, a studio know for making the best immersive sims in the business and they have released Redfall since the acquisition, enough said there."

FYI, Arkane Austin and Arkane Lyon are two different teams. And yes, Redfall was terrible. And yes, it´s Microsoft!

We shall see if MS will get the credit for Starfield if/in case it turn out great, the same way they got the backlash for Redfall.

"Todd Howard has claimed that they want to return to their rpg roots with Starfield, but we all know about Todd Howard’s sweet, sweet promises."

He´s the best RPG developer in the world, so I´ll stick to his word on this one.

"Of course, you could point to Avowed, Elder Scrolls 6, and Outer Worlds 2 as proof that Microsoft plans on focusing on detailed single player RPGs and not looter shooter skinner boxes for GamePass."

You forgot Fable, Fallout 5 (already confirmed by Todd Howard himself) and Project Cobalt by InXile. And there´s some rumors surrounding a new JRPG by Tango Softworks, but it remains to be confirmed.

"I guess we’ll have to… wait until the next e3… to hear about that though."

You mean 12 days, got it!

Magog112d ago

Exactly my point. Starfield is a shooter with a few RPG elements. It's not a real RPG by any standards.

shinoff2183112d ago

Obscure I wouldn't go as far as saying Howard is the best rpg developer in the world. That's kinda crazy. While I enjoyed the hell out of fallout 4 it was kinda whack some of the changes they made from 3 and Vegas. Still a great game. But your exaggerating again

Obscure_Observer112d ago

@shinoff2183

"Obscure I wouldn't go as far as saying Howard is the best rpg developer in the world. That's kinda crazy."

That´s MY opinion. There´s nothing in the RPG world that compares to TES! The fact that you didn´t enjoy Fallout 4 as much as the others, doesn´t make it any less relevant to the series as a whole.

Howard´s mind is just out of this world! The guy´s genius, and Starfield will take the RPG genre to whole new level! Period!

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shinoff2183113d ago

Agreed. Most games out here being labeled rpg are not very much rpg to me at all. Horizon is a dope ass series but it's not an rpg to me at all.

Far as the article I think their right. My biggest complaint is they don't have any first party rpg. I think need to seriously invest in something. Knock off fallout lol something.

As much as I hate on the Xbox ill be getting one for the rpgs starfield fallout wasteland etc.

KingKionic 112d ago

Avowed, The Outer Worlds 2, Fable, Starfield are what we know of.

InXile Entertainment the wasteland devs as well are already developing there next rpg after wasteland 3.

Microsoft all about dat heat they bringing.

enkiduxiv112d ago

If any of these games come out and are actually RPGs when they release, then sure. Unfortunately, Microsoft has a habit of complicating development for even the best studios they partner with, and companies like inXile and Obsidian, while they have a lot of talent, don't always work well under pressure. I predict a lot of Scalebound type disasters in the next few years. Hopefully, Starfield won't be one of them, but I recommend giving it a few weeks after launch (when the credible reviews start to come out) before investing any time into it.

shinoff2183112d ago

From the little I've seen of avowed it doesn't really do anything. Not interesting to me at all but we don't know much. The rest I'd be down for.

anast112d ago

Xbox studios, not a chance. Maybe one of the studios they bought.

Miacosa112d ago

I hope that they vary the formula from the Outer Worlds / Fallout / Skyrim style.

gold_drake112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

i dont know if it needs an RPG per se.

games in general? yes.

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Synth Riders Ends Support for Oculus Rift

Kluge Interactive has announced Synth Riders support for Oculus Rift has now ended. Owners can submit a request for a SteamVR version.

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Starfield Player Uses The Game's Outpost System To Create A Massive Factory

A Starfield player has spent over a 100 hours building a massive factory using the game's outpost system. And it's still a work in progress.

darthv722h ago

some of the stuff people come up with in this game is pretty crazy. I've seen a hamburger ship and a semi w/trailer ship.

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Obscure_Observer1h ago

This is trully amazing!

I´m having a hard time building ships, but I´m getting better at it.

It´s a slow but pleasant learning curve.

Tacoboto27m ago

It's also amazing how persistently bitter others are that people enjoy this game.

Really shows the difference between gamers who care about having fun and those who care about petty tribalism.

I just hit 40 hours playtime, and I couldn't be having a better time despite having a similar struggle upgrading my ship. At level 22 I've spent my last 3 skill points on Ship-related Skills (quicker turns, higher shield capacity, next up is access to improved parts).

If you sell your planet survey data to Vladimir in the Eye, he'll give you a higher price than the Trade Authority. Tonight I'm planning on more ship upgrades and Constellation mission board quests.

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Months after declaring Tomb Raider unaffected by layoffs, Tomb Raider dev hit with wave of layoffs

Gamesradar writes: "Embracer Group's bloodbath continues as Tomb Raider dev Crystal Dynamics reports layoffs

Tomb Raider developer Crystal Dynamics has suffered a wave of layoffs just months after insisting that the ongoing staff hemorrhage at parent company Embracer Group wouldn't affect the new Tomb Raider game or the studio's collaboration with The Initiative on the Perfect Dark reboot."

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-Foxtrot21h ago

It's sad that I'm more excited for the remaster trilogy than the new game.

Snookies1221h ago

Nothing sad about that, the original three were amazing games! Can't wait to explore the Croft manor again and find all the secrets... It's been ages, so I barely remember the games these days.

Rebel_Scum3h ago

lol secrets. You know the first thing you’re gonna do is lure the butler to the freezer and shut the door on him haha.

CobraKai3h ago

Im only disagreeing because it’s not sad. Im excited as all hell for these. I can’t even remember if i played 3, but 1 and 2 are still ingrained in my mind. I love remasters and im actually excited to play these in a clean looking “ps1” mode…. i guess that would be a “pc” mode.

-Foxtrot2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

I’m not sad as in “I don’t want the remasters” I’ve wanted them for years. I’m super excited.

I’m sad with how they’ve handled TR over the years, I should be super excited for their next modern release but they have nothing but the remaster trilogy.

And I’ll say it…I didn’t care all that much for the reboot trilogy, it just didn’t feel like Tomb Raider at all. Like a new IP with Tomb Raider slapped on where you “become the Tomb Raider” for 3 games

CobraKai1h ago

Yeah. I agree. I think i got burned out on “realistic” Lara, thats trying so hard to catch up to Nathan Drake, that i miss the old adventures of Lara. The Lara that would be in a bath robe with a shotgun.

crazyCoconuts18h ago

"Crystal Dynamics made the difficult decision to part ways with 9 Brand/Marketing and 1 IT employee today due to an internal restructuring..."
Small layoff, hardly news worthy.

Tacoboto4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

With Aspyr handling the rereleases, what exactly would these CD marketing people be doing with no game release scheduled for any time soon? More yoga sessions on Twitch?