Says fans deserve "amazing content"
I think it was a great show.
It was fine. Lots of awesome looking games. Most were exclusive. But some of those indies looked awful, to me, and there were some notable games omitted from the show. Couple of great shadow drops. 7/10 Anyone thinking that's all we get for the year is in for a surprise. Sony have loads in the tank, as we all know, for example Silent Hill 2 Remake and Factions 2 - enough for another showcase or a steady stream of State of Plays. When you do your show first, you hold some ammo back, you don't fire all your guns at once. You do what you think is enough to win the battle, but you have your reserves poised and ready to go. Sony are pros at this and those peddling doom look kinda desperate to chalk up a misstep - understandable, given the circumstances.
The amount of people I seen on Twitter and Reddit who think this is all Sony has is bafflingly. Sony has been saying for years they wanted to bring live service games to the platform while continuing to pump out epic single player experiences, but you have idiots who think every sinngle player game was cancelled for GAAS games.
MGS Delta and Spidey, two HUGE games for Sony and while one is not exclusive that bs only matters to keyboard warriors like us, Sony isn’t going to show the full hand and it was an hour no talking just games, not sure what people want or expect ?!
Most were not exclusive at all. Spider-Man, phantom blade, and ff 16 were pretty much the only exclusives.
^ GhostScholar, of the 33 games on the showcase, 21 of them were not on xbox, 12 were. Did you watch it?
@Abear, I found the mgs3 trailer to be among the least interesting of the showcase. I pure cgi trailer does nothing for me at this point just like the concord trailer.
If you count it based on the games at the presentation, it was good enough, quite a few nice games, if you were interested mostly in first party games by Sony, then yes, certainly a disappointment, even the few games they did show, only SM2 and Helldivers 2 included gameplay.
Sony is holding back their first party exclusives or they're not ready to be shown yet. Maybe their waiting for summer game fest or the Xbox showcase. Just speculation and a guess
Sony is definitely holding back, they got plenty in the chamber and are clearly waiting for something before unleashing. Disappointing show because of that but people would be foolish to think Sony doesn't have a few nukes ready to drop when they want to drop them
Perhaps they should've done the show when they were ready to show what their first party studios have been working on.
And they delivered that. They had games from every genre, AAA to indies, multiplayer and single-player, games that will be rated M, and games for all ages, big games developed in Japan and places around the world they even had some new hardware to show.
Yes they did. This is the original invite from Sony's blog https://blog.playstation.co... Also posted on N4G 8 days ago https://n4g.com/news/255097... *The show will run a bit over an hour, focusing on PS5 and PS VR2 games in development from top studios from around the world. Expect a glimpse at several new creations from PlayStation Studios, as well as spellbinding games from our third-party partners and indie creators.* Somehow, gamers read this: The show will run a bit over an hour, focusing (primarily) on PS5 and PS VR2 (AAA) games in development from top (Sony) studios from around the world. (After 18 months of smaller presentations), Expect a glimpse at several new (Sony) creations from PlayStation Studios, (as well as.. well.. just us. Because who cares about 3rd party support that has been a tradition and backbone since PlayStation 1) Multiple good games, multiple genres covered. Exactly what they wrote. Resulting in massive complaints from those that expected more than what was said. And we as gamers are supposed to be disappointed in all those good games displayed, VR and new streaming tech.
no we based it of previous showcases/e3 events where sony always delivered brillant looks at there first party games with some 3rd party sprinkled in. A state of play wouldve saved sony and us all the fuss around the show. people know what to expect from state of plays and all things considered thats what this was. You put showcase in the title and the expectations change, simple as that. They should done 3 state of plays spread over 3 days, one for 3rd party, one for VR and one for spiderman, the rest wasn't even worth bothering with, minus hell divers 2 which looked pretty cool
No. You based it on what was in your head on what you wanted. Not what they said. If you comprehended what the blog clearly stated, you wouldn't be coming up with nonsense about past E3 events and Sony spending millions popping fireworks in your face. Dude, E3 is dead. Where you been? Spider-Man 2 looked brilliant. Third party games like Alan Wake 2 and Creed looked brilliant. MGS 3 will most likely look and play brilliant over the PS2 version. Many indie games looked brilliant and creative. Artsy. RE4 VR looked brilliant and will blow away the Quest 2 version. The trailer to Arizona Sunshine 2 looked brilliant and will definitely surpass the first game that had its issues but was still fun and funny. You already know Tekken 8, Silent Hill, Wolverine, FF, Firewall VR, Lo-fi, Runner, etc are coming. You know Sony brings the games EVERY GENERATION. But have this fake outage over a bunch of great looking games shown. Again, you are outraged over more great games shown adding to the ones you already know about. And neglected to read properly what they told you they were going to do. Happens every presentation they have. Every time. Again and again. Gamers hyping themselves and expecting E3 GOW/Spider-Man/Detroit/ presentations every time. You want Sony to go all out leaving nothing for next time. Or not spend that money finishing games. But popping fireworks. Sounds like you're spoiled/entitled and got first world problems.
Regardless of expectations, the show was just simply not good. As Flawless said, there was nothing shown which couldn't have been announced at multiple State of Plays. FF16 releases in a month, and we all know Spiderman is getting a dedicated State of Play in August-September. The rest was 3rd parties, indies, a terrible game by Haven studio, and a small teaser from another. Helldivers also isn't a large game enough and could have been announced elsewhere. Hopefully they really are holding off till the MS/Activision stuff is done. And maybe we'll get another proper showcase near the end of the year. Because the past few years have been really boring conference-wise, with covid, e3 abondoning, etc.
I 100% agree. Honestly I expected a megaton announcement, I was a bit upset that it didn't happen but it never cross my mind to blame Sony. But this has changed due to the number of new great looking games that have been shown. I liked many of the new exclusive games like Phantom Blade, Helldivers 2, tower of Aghasba, and sword of the sea. Along with the great multis like Alan Wake 2, Dragon Dogma 2, MGS3 remake, and AC Mirage.
Mehh keep capping bro. Let Sony drop there standards to xbox levels. Where the premier showcase turns into 3rd party and cgi trailers, such a great show, showing off what Sony's devs are working on lol sounds like some else's showcases aye not a Sony one. I'm terms first party and exclusive content it wasnt a great show, everyone knows that except the blindest of fanboys. Does it matter it was bad no, will Sony deliver some time soon, absolutely they always do, the games are coming Sony's just holding there cards close to there chest, I'm not actually concerned about anything lol All of that doesn't change the fact the show was a disappointment by there usual high standards. Dont get your knickers in a knot, playstation is still the boss, they just had a bad show but continue to Cap all you want though.
"But have this fake outage over a bunch of great looking games shown." When Kinda Funny guys are upset about the conference hell even have known PS fanboys through out social media and YT like MBG, Dreamcast guy upset that's saying something. You're a VR guy it's good to see you excited for VR2 games but you can't astral Project your excitement for VR on to other ppl and expect everybody to be excited for it just because you are. Same with someone who loves Live Service it vastly depends on the audience and who you're talking to. The main audience were hardcore PS fans wanting those AAA games that Sony always announces, and they were light on that this time around. The outrage is far from fake though I disagree with that.
Yeah let's go ahead and be in straight up denial pretending nobody expected more. What was actually said isn't being disregarded. And no, nobody expected only PlayStation studios from being present and nothing else...that's just childish of you.
It was alright show.
Same, I was hyped for Dragons Dogma 2 and seeing next gen Max Payne but overall it was ok
It was definitely varied. VR2 games, Live Service games, AAA 1st party and 3rd party, and Indies so he is right. The only real issue was the CG trailers for those LS games, the Live Service games they did show didn't look that good (imo) and very few AAA games. Lack of major release dates. SM2 and Phantom Blade 0 were the only games that were absolute fire especially Phantom Blade my goodness was that amazing it's definitely my type of game and it's console exclusives. And it not pure souls game thank goodness. Looks like the action games similar to Ninja Gaiden and Gow with a hint of Souls (I guess I'll live with it) Anyway the other issue is PlayStation, but mostly insiders hyped the event making it sound like we were about to get our minds blown. So I have no idea what that was about or what they heard. Can Sony have another showcase later on? Sure they can I suppose but it'll be updates on everything they showed at yesterday's showcase. Any big games from their studios would of already been shown. Sony has no reason to hold back their AAA announcements. Why didn't they show it? It's not hard to understand their games are in development still, most likely 2 to 3 years away still. I think the reason why Factions wasn't there is because they're learning how to do Live Service net coding, Multiplayer. Probably working with Bungie devs as well. Yes they did it with TLOUS original but they focused purely on story and cinematics in their games making it their specialty. Neil said they'll have more info on factions later on. In terms of the showcase again when you released award winning games and consistent for well over a decade now the hype and expectations will naturally be through the roof. Regardless great AAA third party's are still releasing on PS This year some live service if you're into it. Of course Spider-Man. Hell and whatever 3rd party games MS reveals at their show will be on PS also in 2024 maybe some unannounced later this year also. It's fine it's not the end if the world they'll have better showcases even State Of Plays can be great imo and everyone will forget about this showcase it's fine.
"PlayStation [...] hyped the event making it sound like we were about to get our minds blown" Really, though? Sony statement one week prior to the showcase: "The show will run a bit over an hour, focusing on PS5 and PS VR2 games in development from top studios from around the world. Expect a glimpse at several new creations from PlayStation Studios, as well as spellbinding games from our third-party partners and indie creators"
What exactly was spell binding about the show though? Spider-Man and Phantom Blade. Btw Bungie has me interested on their direct about Marathon. I love the transparency. Basically saying they're going for Alpha stage of development and how they're going dark for awhile until they're ready they have me interested now. Before I wasn't interested because I simply didn't know anything about Marathon. Anyway I guess it's up for interpretation. The insiders hyped it up way more. Saying it's "I've heard it was gonna be fire" with several big AAA games. While a few were there it wasn't this show stopping experience we were expecting.
How about just stick to your guns because that’s what people like from PlayStation.
It was as good as an Xbox showcase, I’ll leave it at that.
I wouldn't say it was that bad, Xbox has had some pretty meh showing for awhile. Though I thought the Xbox & Bethesda direct was decent, suprise Hi-fi Rush and people weren't disappointed by Redfall yet.
Xbox's 2021 showcase had more first party titles shown in it than this.
And where are any of those games? Nowhere to be seen. Stop trolling
It wasn't a bad show by any means.. lot's of great games but after 18 months of waiting it was major disappointment and the future of Ps5 looks small and unexciting based on the showcase. The cope from some of the top comments is the best as always.
I don't think it's so much 'cope' as just better awareness. Sure, for the uninformed casual viewer, the showcase didn't present a particularly exciting future for PS5. For the rest of us, we already know we've got Wolverine, Silent Hill 2, Factions 2 and loads of unannounced projects from Sony's first party studios. PSVR2 games are landing thick and fast - great quality too. While it's fine to be disappointed in what we saw as a showcase, to infer that paints a bleak future for PS5 is either uninformed or just plain disingenuous.
I think we need to hold Sony to the same standard as others. Sony not having more to show, especially from ND and their Factions game? Sony Bend after 4 years? ND second team that's 3 years old? It's worrisome to me. I mean, Bungie, an independent studio of theirs, who has been working like crazy on D2, showed the next D2 expansion and their next game.
^ I do agree, but I'm just not sure there's cause for concern. If you deduce that this is all you need to show to match or outpace your competitors, that's what you show. That means you're in a stronger position should you need to quickly regroup and drop a megaton. All the ones you listed - and likely more - are expected to be nearing completion. When they show those, the wait will be shorter than we've become accustomed to, which will delight fans. I'd have liked to see updates on these - and a better show in general - but they're selling consoles and games like crazy right now and they're not seeing much of note from their competition. So we get what we got. To be honest, I felt like they held their cards close of late due to the ABK acquisition and I thought they'd show more at this showcase. I'm hoping Microsoft have a humdinger of a show (and Meta, too), because I fully expect Sony to announce an additional showcase, or multiple State of Plays shortly afterwards.
***If you deduce that this is all you need to show to match or outpace your competitors, that's what you show.*** If this is how they play it, then players have every right to complain. Players aren't in the game of business strategy. They want to see the reasons why their investment is still worth it in the short and long run. They want to play other games while thinking about that game they saw that's coming in a year. Even if it's just a logo and a quick CGI trailer. They want to have the comfort that there's more on the horizon.
^ That's fine, then they should complain. They should also complain to Microsoft, or at the very least demand better, instead of defending the dross they've been pumping out (Hifi Rush aside). We're seeing Sony show enough to get by and hold their ammo back for bigger battles, should they arrive. It's just the nature of the beast. If you or I were in Jim's shoes, we'd do the same. That doesn't make it okay, but we've been here before with PS3. The difference now, is that we know we've got some heavy hitters on the way that were not shown, such is the luxury afforded to Sony within the market right now. Clearly the teams you mentioned haven't downed tools, because they'd have reduced headcount, so once Microsoft (and Meta) show their hand - and we finally have an outcome to this bloody ABK/MS situation - we're in for a serious purple patch! All that said, I totally accept others don't see it the same way and I appreciate that the showcase should be judged on it's own merit rather than on future possibilities. I'm just not concerned in the meantime.
It was a very good games showcase, but a meh PS showcase.
Literally, what I've been trying to say but everyone is getting so butt hurt about it. You'd think I just insulted there mothers or something 😂
"Very good" is hyperbolic when most games didn't even have actual gameplay footage shown.
oh you mean like an MS show where they show games that we're still waiting on....years later
It was a decent across-the-board game showcase, it was a disappointing PS AAA exclusive showcase with the exception of Spiderman 2.
If this was an Xbox showcase people would be absolutely furious, and from what I've seen a hell of a lot of PS5 owners are annoyed. Just because Playstation has historically given us the better experience doesn't mean they can stop that and go back on that. Goodwill can be lost very fucking quickly, look at what happened in the last third of the Xbox 360 console cycle, Xbox dominated them, let the foot off the gas and PS3 took over. I don't care what Phil says, if Xbox release 3 - 4 85+ rated first party exclusives in the next year compared to Sony's 1 in Spiderman 2, momentum can change very quickly.
***If this was an Xbox showcase people would be absolutely furious*** And other people would be saying it's the best thing ever. What's your point? That people have biases? Way to go! ***from what I've seen a hell of a lot of PS5 owners are annoyed*** Bit hyperbolic there, most are just disappointed they didn't get more 1st party but most also liked a few things they saw. ***Just because Playstation has historically given us the better experience doesn't mean they can stop that and go back on that.*** I mean, this is what Sony has done before. They get stuck with their winning position and let the competition come in and do things they aren't. Then they have to get back up by catering to us more. This is why competition is so important. But Xbox isn't competing in the same way, Xbox isn't really competing with hardware other than using it to hold their service and their software catalog aimed at promoting their service. They aren't really about making new and big releases yet, they're about keeping people on their service and expanding it by buying up major third-party games. ***look at what happened in the last third of the Xbox 360 console cycle*** Or the first third of the PS3 console cycle.
Well that's the longest way of saying to be or not to be I've ever read. But to reply to your point about Sony needing competition this is my point, both companies are infuriating. All Xbox has to do is utilise its resources in the right way to make good games and they would be doing so much better. If Sony just kept doing what they were good at would mean they would be the undisputed market leaders for all time, CoD or no CoD. They haven't got the best selling console for their live service or multiplatform kid games they showed. If anyone thinks that showcase was acceptable then you're blinded by fanboyism.
Fire this guy, we need somebody that actually knows what they are doing.
Hardware selling better than the last generation. Software increased sales. Purchases and works to diversify their game portfolio in line with modern gaming. Doesn't have the 'best' showcase ever, though. Yup. fire him. I definitely think someone could do better, but he's obviously doing well for the company overall even if you disagree with him (which I do).
Nothing to look forward exclusively apart from Spider-Man 2 and Helldivers 2.. :/ that bothers me. Shawn Layden I think his name was? was incredible, I don't think this Jim guy can be credited for the success of hardware, it's PlayStation, it's gonna sell the best anyways, it's the direct out of touch with hardcore gamers that worries me, that showcase was awful. Only two games peaked my interest, the rest are either indie trash titles or multiplatform.
If Playstation had a monkey where Jim is same thing would happen, Playstation is reaping their excellent previous generation and the hardwork that was done by the people before Jim and his team. Give it sometime and you'll see the actual output of the current team.
They had a few great games in there and then there were the Matt Bradford games.
Technically they did, but would have been nice to see their other first party studios games.
Loved the show, playing most of the games. Entitled PS players and bitter Xbox players blasting a great show. Watch Yong Yea or Jessie Cox's reactions, if you can't have joy at a great selection of games you need to move on from gaming.
"Great selection of games" Like Cat Quest, a new FNAF game, and a bunch of VR games nobody cares about?
There's only so much credit you can take for the contributions of 3rd party publishers.
It was a awful show and of course on purpose with the Activision case going on Sony don't want to Show that much great games. Very clearly the case.
Phantom Blade Zero and Spiderman 2 will look better and BE better than anything Microsoft shows off this summer. I guarantee you.
i think alot of ppl on here saw the leaks and had a certain amount of expectations and some headcannon on whats going to be on the showcase. leaks are always risky and not accurate. it was great imo, they had alot to show and most of the games looked great. yes we had GaaS games shown, but no one forces you to play them. and we had like 4 ps exclusives shown on it. that is a fair amount. and yes, ff16 and spidey were shown off. but why not? both of them are system sellers and have a close release window. just because something u wanted wasnt shown off, doesnt mean the rest of it was trash. its the same when nintendo doesnt show off a certain game; immediately its trash. but when they do its like "oh Nintendo is just milking it now". y'all better be as critical of the xbox showcase, because i know for a fact that most of you complainers will find atleast 15 reasons to defend it.
Borefest showings are the best? Ok lol. Funny sony fans will think it's fine though lol, cmon....it was filled with 3rd party and indies...like really? They should've came out and said it was more partner focused to lower hype.
Jim Ryan can do a complete recreation of the E3 2006 press conference and fanboys will consider it a great show
was okish,.. just nothing that blew my socks off,.. Really happy Talos Principle 2 is in the works,.. but way to much CGI crap all around,..
trying to be diverse like xbox is not the way to go. They had 2 good showings with spidey and another and that was that, not 1 new game to take our breathe away, there is always next year
I think it was a great show.
And they delivered that.
They had games from every genre, AAA to indies, multiplayer and single-player, games that will be rated M, and games for all ages, big games developed in Japan and places around the world they even had some new hardware to show.
It was alright show.