Insomniac games confirms Spider-Man 2 won't have any co-op or multiplayer elements

It is an epic single-player adventure!

[blackblades]

Coop wouldve been nice for the people that has friends or family.

[darthv72]

Honestly, it would have been pretty cool to team up with my son. His favorite movie is no way home and it would have been cool to take on a boss or two together.

[neutralgamer1992]

Give us great SP games now and maybe they can add co-op via a match down the road. Every game and developer has resources and I rather they focus on SP at launch

Halo Infinite had almost 500 in budget yet still it was missing long time halo features. Game development is very complicated

[zaanan]

Insomniac in 2006: Resistance is our first realistic game, and it’s a PS3 launch title, but we have also included co-op!
Insomniac in 2023: Spider-man is a great family IP, PS5 is easier to develop for and way more capable, but fuck co- op!

[MONOLITHICIDE]

$120 a year and no multiplayer games. No Mag No Warhawk No Socom No Resistance No Killzone No Twisted Metal No Home 2.0 No New No nothing.

[FunAndGun]

@Mono Thanks for bringing up Warhawk. Now I need a good cry in memory of that amazing gaming experience that I miss.

[Unknown_Gamer5794]

Maybe, but I can respect a game that’s focused on what it wants to be rather than getting bogged down with trying to please everyone. There are plenty of other great co-op games if that’s what you’re looking for. Insomniac clearly wants to focus on creating the best singleplayer experience possible.

[blackblades]

People I said it wouldve been nice for people that wanna play with friends and family. Which I don't play with either of them and I never wish for it either. Also they can make the game single player and when done could add it or add it later.

[-Foxtrot]

Phew

[blackblades]

What's that sound effect is that again

[-Foxtrot]

Phew as in "Thank f****** God"

[blackblades]

That's the wiping off the sweat from the forhead gotcha.

[masterfox]

freaking awesome!!!, developers will focus in a strong single player experience the way it should be.

[Jin_Sakai]

Oh give it a rest. You shouldn’t have to choose one or the other. Both can coexist.

[masterfox]

you have no honor Jin Sakai san!

[badz149]

"choice" as in other coop games to play. not all games should have coop or online mp, PERIOD!

[JEECE]

But remember how multiplayer ruined Ghost of Tsushima when they added it? The single player was never the same after they added multiplayer.

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

We've seen co-op negatively affect games so many times ... Dead Space 3, Redfall, Gotham Knights, Anthem, F.E.A.R 3, Avengers and probably Suicide Squad.

It's not well suited to all games. Realistically, it creates limitations for the design. The trade-off has to be worth it.

If one player is Peter and one is Miles ... would Peter and Miles always have to be in the same room for the slower moments like walking around F.E.A.S.T? That limits the story. It creates all sorts of problems.

Maybe sometimes you're not supposed to play as one of them for a while. Maybe Miles gets injured and Peter wants revenge while wearing the black suit. Or Peter gets injured or captured by Venom. Co-op says "Nah, can't do that."

Co-op is perfectly suited to looter shooters, but ... a narrative-focused open world game? It'll most likely end up being dumbed down or simplified in some way to fit co-op into it.

[DarXyde]

Likewise, games can stand alone without a single player (Titanfall) or multiplayer (Spiderman).

Of course they can coexist. I don't think it was even implied that they couldn't. Sufficient, but wholly unnecessary. All that would do is prolong development (thereby increasing cost). Insomniac has a stellar track record for single player titles, and I trust their judgment in its exclusion.

Both in theory are good to have, but I don't mind choosing one over the other if the experience is solid either.

[SeTTriP]

But at what cost is the concern.

[ModsDoBetter]

Agreed. This title could’ve had co-op without compromise. It’s not difficult to implement it without messing up a la Gotham Knights.

[Obscure_Observer]

Coop wouldn´t hurt the single player experience a bit if it had drop in drop out option.

Those gamers which have families would benefit the most, since Spider-Man is the most popular super-hero among kids and... pretty much everybody.

Maybe in the next one.

[jznrpg]

Maybe they thought it would .
It definitely takes more time and production all around.

[Obscure_Observer]

"It definitely takes more time and production all around."

That´s true. The game is going to be released faster as it is. Maybe Marvel has its own deadlines to met.

[-Foxtrot]

Again we continue to live in this fantasy land where people think co-op is the developers pressing a few buttons and going "Ta-Dah...Co-op"

It's not an easy thing to implement and I'd rather see the resources used to make the best single player game they can.

[CS7]

Also it limits the story.

What if something happens to miles during the story, what happens to coop then?

[Profchaos]

Exactly co op needs to be planned for and developed from the get go otherwise you end up with a game where player 2 is basically player 1's pet playing follow the leader all the main actions are completed by P1 and P2 might attack a few enemies here and there.

Recent example was I played Kirby and the forgotten world in co op and the player 2 experience was miserable and boring.

Unless it's a shooter co op needs to be a forethought

[-Foxtrot]

@CS7

BOOM...there's another great point

Remember Halo 5 when rather than drop in / drop out co-op with an random spartan they made it so any players would be playing Blue Team. Single player you are stuck with shitty AI companions and it meant they were completely restricted with the story, if something happens to one character then it's got to happen to all of them.

Resident Evil 5 is a great co-op game but playing it single player is just miserable, the AI is bad, it's not scary, the game is littered with "work together, you pull this chain and I'll go over here and pull this one" which meant they couldn't even have an optional "No Partner" mode as the game just wouldn't work.

Redfall by a developer who are known for their single player driven games, look how that turned out.

It's a headache and it's sad that there's still people to this day, despite seeing how incompetent Bethesda is at making a single player game without bugs, say they want co-op in a huge complex world like Elder Scrolls for Elder Scrolls VI.

Nobody thinks of the consequences, if anything people should be championing for games like It Takes Two which were built up as co-op only games.

[MontyeKristo]

@CS7 - Not necessarily. If Insomniac wanted to create the game as a co-op experience, then they would create a story that works for playing co-op. It's not simply "Okay, here's the story - now make it co-op." It wouldn't make sense to create a co-op experience where they completely separate the characters - not usually, anyway.

But, even if they did, like someone said above "Venom captures Spiderman," they could do something like the Miles player continues to be played normally but the Spiderman player is controlling a spider bot helping lead Miles to his location and spotting enemies. Or Miles gets hurt but you play as Spiderman and Mary Jane.. they could make it work if they intended to.

I'm okay with it being single player; however, if they made co-op missions later (unrelated to the main story) that would be really cool. Whether it's "fight this boss together" or "how many waves of enemies can you survive" or "race from point A to point B." There's plenty of options, even a completely different side story, they could craft to please the co-op crowd..

[DarXyde]

Yes, I'm sure drop in/drop out co-op is super easy to implement. Even easier if it's offline for some split screen co-op that doesn't require designing any net code so your can play locally with your family or your friends.

.... Right?

[Obscure_Observer]

"Yes, I'm sure drop in/drop out co-op is super easy to implement."

Nobody said it´s easy to implement, dude. Insomniac could just add it down the line as an future update. But it´s their game and their vision, they´ll do whatever they want with it anyway, just like any other studio.

[DarXyde]

Obscure _Observer,

I don't see the point. That's too GaaS-y and they've got other projects on their plate.

Either way, don't think it needs it, period. Never felt like it was a missed opportunity with the original or Miles Morales

[jambola]

Yeah it's very easy
Like dragging a file from one folder to the other
Just drag and drop the other character In

[Obscure_Observer]

@DarXyde

"I don't see the point. That's too GaaS-y and they've got other projects on their plate."

There´s nothing GaaS-y in drop in/drop out co-op for single player focused games, dude. You´ll be allowed to play the main campaign with a fellow gamer and that´s it. Nothing more, nothing less.

That said, I do agree that Insomniac already has multiple projects in development as it is.

[lukasmain]

I don't mind either way. I'm so excited for this. Maybe co-op for a future game. A natural progression to keeps things fresh. Co-op could be really cool if done right.

[hotnickles]

I’m cool with it

[jznrpg]

I prefer single player so I am happy about that but that being said Insomniac is a great developer and if they wanted to do a co-op game I am sure they would do a good job.

It’s up to them to make what they want and single player has done them well so I can see why they would want to focus on that instead of co-op for their mainline series.

Maybe a side game could be made or who knows maybe one of Sony’s live service games involves Spiderman.

[Flawlessmic]

And thank the lord Jesus's christ for that hahaha

Dont need that stuff in brillant sp games taking away the devs focus and time and money from providing the best sp experience possible

[MADGameR]

I'm sure you will have the ability to switch between Peter Parker and Mile Morales.

[lukasmain]

Man that would be cool. Like GTA V campaign style lol. Both characters have the main story, but also their own side/parallel story that all comes together at the end.

[MADGameR]

No I mean on the fly during combat, and yes maybe during campaign too.

[Tedakin]

Swinging through the city with your friend would have been fun.

[ravens52]

Woulda been cool so long as it didn't effect the single player experience. Makes no difference to me though 🤷🏾. Maybe next game.

[Aloymetal]

Great!

[Lightning77]

I can see Insomniac coming out with 1 more main line single player game (Spider-Man 3) to top off the trilogy with a satisfying ending then a spin off spider verse MMO or live service game in the future.

[northpaws]

I always like single player games with a detached MP mode, like faction from tlou, legends from Ghost of Tsushima... both freaking awesome. I spent at least 300+ hours on each of those multiplayers, as long as doesn't affect the SP mode quality.

[lio_convoy]

Smart move. Better to spend the development money & resources available on making sure the focus of the game is as polished as possible.

[Bathyj]

They said this from the start
I'm fine with that.
I wouldn't mind character switching though in certain areas like GTAV

[ApocalypseShadow]

I'm fine with it.

But they can add VR on the side. Or make Spider-Man 1 playable in VR.

[attilayavuzer]

As cool as that sounds in theory, a first person spider man game in VR would be immediate and violent motion sickness for everyone.

[Dandalandan117]

You see this Rocksteady? This is how you should roll.
Stay in your lane and you will be rewarded and appreciated.

[Exvalos]

Thank God for insomniac, how could I have ever doubted them.

[badboyz09]

30hr couch co-op I'm just sayin bro bro

[J-DARKnes]

Good, nobody asked for it anyway.

[phoenixwing]

I like how all the ppl complaining are Xbox fanboys

[Vengeance1138]

Pretty sure the game absolutely WILL have coop. Maybe not at launch but it will come down the line. The Miles voice actor confirmed it and obviously devs won't just outright say oh yes! Definitely we'll confirm the leaks. So it's deny deny deny until it's ready to be shown.

Honestly, the reveal cinematic literally features coop. No self respecting developer designs a reveal trailer heavily hinting at a feature just to trick people. Devs are smart, they know what they're doing so yes, fully expect coop.

[InUrFoxHole]

Wow that sucks

[Hofstaderman]

Good.

[Stanjara]

Yes!

[Demetrius]

One of the reasons it will drive more sales I swear don’t gets me all nostalgic with the gems they be droppin lol

[Daeloki]

Not gonna miss it being there, but I think optional co-op in free-roaming (doing mini-missions, events etc) could have been a cool optional feature. Then again any optional features like that always mean there are aditional things that could break.

[Silver_ShadoWolf]

I thought one of the big selling points for the game was that it would be co-op???

[gold_drake]

didn't expect it to be co op.

glad its singleplayer only

[PhillyDillyDee]

I get it. It would’ve been nice to have an option to swing around the city w a friend tho. Maybe aside from the story. Either way this is still my most anticipated game this year!

[Ninver]

I'm certain coop with come later via dlc. If the demand is heard it will be developed.

[RPGer]

People are acting like if we gonna see 2 spideys in screen the whole time. We all know they gonna separate for the most part and the only gonna show up in prologue or post prologue and in the middle and in the final boss fight. Other than that we gonna play Miles and Parker separately for the most of the time for balance of the game and story.

[anast]

Good.

[StarkR3ality]

Why do people suddenly want COOP in a traditional single player game? Have we not seen what can happen to Devs when they go too much out of their comfort zone lately and shoe horning coop into games? Redfall, Gotham knights, Suicide squad to name a few (I know SS isn't out but it looks terrible).

Stick to what you know Insomniac and good on you, I know they can nail Single player, COOP.. not so much.

[BlaqMagiq1]

Good. It doesn't need it. Masterpiece incoming.

[boing1]

Oh, and I was hoping for coop after seeing both of them together in the trailer. Kind of obvious assumption to make imo.

[leahcim]

thank god!
Long live single-player games

[FlintGREY]

They could do a Co-op mission mode separate from the main story like Uncharted 2 did. That would be cool

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

Thank you for taking away the credibility of ALL fan-based rumors that merit zero attention, from now on.

I’m looking at you “Tom Cruise is Iron Man”

[Abear21]

Yes!!!

[kindi_boy]

they will add it as a DLC and let people pay for it.

[jambola]

Not really bothered
Coop would either be tacked on or too focused on probably

[MetroidFREAK21]

Good

[Hereandthere]

Good.

[gangsta_red]

Definitely a missed opportunity with both characters being featured and the Spider -verse being popular

[cammers1995]

Good

[chobit_A5HL3Y]

not that it applies to this game, but i really wish devs would do more co-op stuff over pvp.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

Why in the hell would Spider-man need co-op or multiplayer? Did any of the Arkham games have co-op/multiplayer? Stop the nonsense.

[Einhander1971]

Great news no Co-op shit to dilute the experience.

[EazyC]

That's ok, but it really ought to offer serious replayability if that's the case. Games are so expensive.

[Psychonaut85]

Good.

[46player]

Great news!