Redfall failed, but Xbox's Phil Spencer is right — developers should still be able to explore different genres.
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True, they have pretty different audiences..and some People just have both at home or a PS and a PC that emulates more or less everything from Nintendo.
Xbox hasn't been a competitor since the XB360. Last generation and this generation Sony has been running circles around Xbox. As for Sony vs Nintendo Sony runs circles yes but I don't really see Nintendo as competition. Nintendo does their own thing and it works.
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Details are important. Console sales yes. Overall games Xbox seems to be doing fairly well in that department.
MS were doing so well that they had to start selling their games on their main competitors system which in turn results in around 30% of each sale going to Sony as the platform holder.
I do think tjat MS' fortunes will improve now that they are actually selling games rather than giving them away for pennies on the dollar.
Something that occurs to me is that the more success MS published games have elsewhere, the more stark it will become that selling games is much more profitable than renting them. If that becomes highly noticable, I wonder what the shareholders (who ultimately run the show) will make of a service which has stagnated for years?
PlayStation doesn't compete with third party games, they compete on consoles. They profit from third party games. If you're not comparing consoles there's no point in comparing.
I think it's all PS fans have left at this point. Console wars were always a competition for fourth place behind Nintendo, PC and mobile. If Xbox evaporates into a hybrid virtual platform, then PS will be perennially left in last place.
Strange, I recall all those FCC documents and witness testimonies saying the exact opposite... Guess Microsoft doesn't know what it's talking about?
Great analysis. Just joking.
Pretending like companies give a f about where they “rank” against each other is just super retarded. This isn’t the World Cup.
Tell me, how does “PC” compete against a brand like PlayStation? It just doesn’t make sense at all. What you just said, is complete and utter nonsense
I don't think PS cares about being in this so-called "last place" you came up with when they're making profits hand over fist.
microsoft wanted to crush sony into dust and they had the money to do it, but with such weak leadership it was always going to fail
Had the money? They still have the money but the industry has changed since xbox 360. Microsoft is the number one publisher in gaming. I'd hardly call that failing.
The industry hasn't changed though, just ms, Microsoft was the no1 publisher for a month in december 2024, the actual no1 for fy2024 was tencent if game sales are all that's being counted.
Money doesn't mean you'll be successful large corporations have entered and failed before like Nec
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No one said they couldn't, that's not the argument AT ALL, Has absolutely nothing to do with it being a "new game" and you're trying to divert away from the actual issue, you know, the fact that it's an ufinished mess? Even if it were Dishonored 3, if it launched in this state all criticisms would be just as justified if not moreso.
When you take something out of the oven early and complain it's not cooked who's to blame?
August 2017 > May 2023
Perhaps the Ingredients were spoiled, but that's not on the customer.
Yea, new games that ARE good. This game is not good, Halo Infinite was not good. Where are all the other games? About the only consistent good game they have is Forza… whoop dee damn doo doo. Hi-Fi Rush I hear is good. I’m drawing a blank here, but what Xbox Series X exclusive has been stellar this gen? Gears Tactics maybe?
You can’t shrug and say a game that has millions poured into its development and is half-baked should be allowed to fail. That’s not the message here.
Yes, if the game is incredible and just failed to hook an audience, then yes the industry shouldn’t look at that and say, “Well, we tried something new and lost a lot of money on it, guess we’ll only spit out what sells!”
The problem with the Xbox game division is the games that are failing for them are because they’re bad games and the consistency of barely any exclusives and then when there’s something big finally coming out, it’s bad. In this case failure cannot be perceived as something that should be allowed to happen… at least in the sense that something new that’s stellar should be allowed to fail.
Developers should strive to make the best game possible. Don't try to normalize low-effort products or a bad job.
Also, i'm not sure how Redfall isn't like the other Arkane games - it's also a first person shooter with light RPG elements and semi-open world. You know, like the Prey or Deathloop. The only new element is a co-op. Maybe that's down to personal preference or something.
If they've tried to make, i dunno, an RTS game, then i would've kinda get the «not their cup of tea» excuse and lack of experience. But then again, they're professionals with trillion dollar company backing them, they can hire staff they're missing, can't they?
«but its technical performance and Xbox’s lackluster slate shouldn’t be used as ammo to limit Arkane’s creative freedom.» - what creative freedom?! You yourself said in the article that they're chasing trends, i quote: «would be divorcing itself from its specialties and chasing trends instead». Creative freedom should not be an excuse to make bad games or to act like those bad games don't matter. What, they didn't see all the problems? Like braindead AI? Lack of coherent story? Performance issues? Bad excuse for cutscenes? They've traded their stellar reputation for Redfall and they're the only ones to blame.
Demand better from Arkane, Xbox and Microsoft, that's the only way for Microsoft and their studios to improve. If you start acting like bad games are ok or that it's fine because it's available on GamePass, things will get even worse.
Oh, by the way, which Supermassive Games was «poorly animated»? I mean, "samey" i get, but poorly animated? Don't remember a single one. Weird jab.
Redfall didn't fail cause it's a new ip, it failed cause it's a bad game simple as that.
It failed because it clearly wasn't supported properly or given enough time, that sucks for a new ip for it to fail that way.