The Gamers Lounge Podcast Episode 249: "Xbox Disappointment"

On this weeks show the guys talk Jedi Survivor, The Last Case of Benedict Fox, Final Fantasy 7 Remake, the state of Xbox and more!

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Starfield has become Bethesda’s lowest rated game on Steam

Fallout 76 is no longer Bethesda’s least popular game on Steam, as players complain about bland gameplay and a lack of depth and variety.

Jin_Sakai6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

After the excitement wore off and the held back reviews started hitting people started taking notice. Same janky ugly NPCs, limited exploration, and loading screens galore. Your typical Bethesda game. Not to forget the outdated Creation Engine.

CappyBlack1h ago

Funny, considering it's the deepest game they've released since Morrowind, over 20 years ago.

shinoff218335m ago(Edited 33m ago)

I'll be honest, I've kind put it to the side, I'm hoping they come through with an update that adds a bit more to it. Like some lore I can read about in scattered books, pc's, it seems extremely limited in this area. Fallout games seem to have more. Considering this is such a big game it was disappointing. The addition of maps would be useful. I've said it before the game doesnt feel quite finished but something had to come out

monkey60223m ago

Most of my friends seem to have moved on too. They say it was a good game but they're over it. A lot of them have moved on to Lies of P or went back to Baldurs Gate. Seems the honeymoon period for Starfield is over already. I havent played it yet myself but I'm not in a hurry to either

CobraKai30m ago

I never trust reviews and this is why. I love this game. I’ve been hooked since launch.

Vits5m ago

Shouldn't trust articles either.

This one is based on the steamDB data and it's specifically about the Bethesda Game Studios games, but it's specifically about "main" versions. And why does that matter?

Well because if it was Bethesda as a whole, they would have to consider both Bethesda Game Studios and Bethesda Softworks, the latter being mostly commonly seen as the publisher. But it's also listed as the developer for some key older Bethesda games like Arena and Daggerfall, but more importantly for Redguard and Battlespire both of which have a lower score than Starfield. But that could be a mistake, after all is true that Bethesda Game Studios is the most commonly known of the two.

But the bit about versions is a different story. Because if they took into consideration the VR games - that are sold separately and are separated instalions - Fallout 4 VR also has a lower score than SF. And it's very hard for this to be a mistake as the author did list the two different versions of Fallout 3 with two different scores. So they definitely saw that on the listing.

And I could give the benefit of the doubt to the author, but given that this same publication gave SF a 6/10. I would argue that it was likely intentional.

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Interview with Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil

Forza is the best racing game. Xbox will continue to work hard to create Japanese titles.

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crazyCoconuts1d 10h ago

I wonder how the gamers in Tokyo feel after Phil's email came out about how much he'd like to buy Nintendo.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 9h ago

Nintendo is probably laughing rn since they're winning and doing amazing my friend XD.

fr0sty4h ago

"Forza is the best racing game. Sure, it has fewer tracks and no VR, but it's better. Promise."

Einhander19722h ago


And it's cars and tracks cost money and there is a battle pass, but it's better.

Abriael1d 7h ago

I'm in Tokyo right now, and I can pretty much promise you that the vast majority of gamers in Tokyo don't give a flying F about that.

Jin_Sakai1d 5h ago

Probably because the vast majority don’t even know about it.

StormSnooper4h ago

They are trying. they will buy anyone they can.

Jin_Sakai7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I’m sure they wouldn’t want Nintendo owned by a Western mega corporation that can’t even figure out what to do with their own gaming division.

porkChop7h ago

Outside of places like this no one really cares that much. Anyone with some common sense knows it ain't happening. Nintendo's investors would never go for it, and regulators would never approve it. No console manufacturer will be able to buy another. Even if MS were to go software-only, with Bethesda and ABK they'd be way too big to allow that purchase.

The most we'll likely see is further collaboration between the two. Maybe a bespoke version of Game Pass to stream games that otherwise aren't available for purchase on Nintendo systems. Or maybe Nintendo will use Azure to revamp its online infrastructure.

S2Killinit5h ago

Fu€k spinster and his company

StormSnooper4h ago

at this point, I don't blame you. MS really showed us they cannot be trusted.

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purple1011d 9h ago

Oh boy.
. Here we go.

3 bags of microwave popcorn at-the-ready

purple1011d 8h ago

Here's a gem

"First, regarding PC Game Pass, since it is on the same PC platform as Steam, we believe that it provides users with a choice. The choice of which library to build is left to the user's discretion."

I've heard this term before from him..."build a library"

Only your comparing steam to gamepass. On gamepass once you stop paying your library is gone so not really a library like steam which you can always go bac, to play your purchases built over thr years, without paying a penny more.

Saying gamepass is a library implies this, but as we know, it's nothing like this.

Keep using this word 'library' sits wong with me.
It's a collection. A library in something you can reference and go back to to look at your dusty booka you loved as a child. With gamepass m$ can yank any title, at will and throw it in the bin,

No one would do that in my library.!

ApocalypseShadow1d 8h ago

Of course. With Phil it's 10 percent truth and 90 percent lie.

It's like you said, stop paying and you play nothing because with game pass, you own nothing. There's no library.

Only truth was that it's on PC and a choice between it and Steam.

Lightning7711h ago

You mean like how all Subscriptions work? You think you get to keep all those PSN+ games after you unsubscribe? Netflix Hulu, you still think you get to watch movies after unsubscribe?

"Only truth was that it's on PC and a choice between it and Steam."

Which is exactly what he just said and exactly what he meant. Congrats you read it but failed the comprehension (so close). Either have GP library or build it on PC or steam since games hit day one their.

Sonic18818h ago

5 percent truth and 95 percent lie. But Jim Ryan lies a lot too. They both can go imo