Zelda Tears of the Kingdom Out in the Wild and People Are Already Playing it on PC

Early copies of The Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom are out in the wild and people are already emulating it on PC.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Yep I've been enjoying but I will pre-order that deluxe edition to thanks Nintendo and support them.

[Sonic1881]

I haven't tried it out yet but I will especially in 60fps

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Great idea use ryujinx because yuzu doesn't work rn and remember pre order the official release or collector's edition to support nintendo to do more of these amazing games.

[Andrew336]

60fps doesn't work right, messes up cut scenes and shrines currently. Better days ahead for sure tho.

[repsahj]

Nice! I'm still waiting for the actual release, my switch hasn't been pirated yet. I'am really excited to play this game already.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Great stuff 👏 👍 I support your gamer choices.

[ufo8mycat]

So you support outdated games from a technical level, where the game is 30 fps on the Switch and is more of a expansion then a new game, all that for FULL price? This is exactly why Nintendo gets away with stuff like this

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[GoodGuy09]

If you pirate, buy the game as well. We desperately need actual quality singleplayer AAA games like these in these horrifying modern AAA times...

[luckytrouble]

You do realize TotK is going to sell insanely well regardless of this leak, right? It blows my mind all these years later people still believe piracy harms sales when we have yet to see any proof of that. People pirating the game now likely always intended to pirate it, or have a preorder but just want to get ahead of spoilers in this particular case. If this game sells less than 10 million lifetime, I will procure a hat and proceed to eat it.

[andy85]

I'll eat it if it isn't the 2nd highest selling game of the year 😂

[Profchaos]

You have a very short memory if you believe piracy doesn't harm the industry it almost killed pc gaming in the early 2000s prior to steam pc wasn't getting ports of console games because piracy was rampant.

Look at crysis 1 it was pirated so much that they pivoted the entire franchise to focus on games that could run on console and pc instead of just pc.

The ceo of crytek admitted that there was more than double the pirated players than legit players for crysis 1 and stated its changed the future of game design for them away from pc

https://www.ign.com/article...

Attitudes like this are the reason crysis 2 was a linear cod rip instead of a epic scale game

What if you had a business and 50 percent of people who used your product stole it.

[ifinitygamer]

Piracy absolutely hurts sales. It may not seem like it matters because Nintendo will certainly sell tens of millions of copies of the game, but there are people who won't buy a Switch because they emulate the entire console and therefore just download 2, 3, 4, 10, 20 games onto it without batting an eye. That's a massive loss multiplied out over the millions of people who emulate and don't buy a single thing.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

@profchaos
Thank you for that awesome article insightful.
@infnitygamer
I disagree with that because yes I can see your point. No all piracy is for evil sake look at the manga industry there no fair, viable solution to consume their content so people will resort to that since there's no fair way to do so, and not all people are inherently thieves for me for example I'm buying the collectors edition of totk while emulating it using ryujinx so I think your opinion is not understanding nuances of reality and certain situations. If manga Industry had a great option to consume legally ppl will buy same thing with anything fair.

[Yi-Long]

At prof Chaos; Crysis is a very poor example though. The game was EXTREMELY demanding regarding hardware, so folks chose to pirate it for numerous reasons; To check if their system was even capable of running the game properly (in most cases, no it wasn’t), or they had little interest in playing the game, but if they had a new powerful build it would function as a ‘tech-demo’ to show off what their system was now capable off.

Not saying piracy can’t harm sales btw. I have my personal views on that. But just saying Crysis isn’t the best example to bring forward into that discussion simply because for the vast VAST majority of gamers on PC, it was simply unplayable to begin with due to the extremely demanding system requirements.

[sadraiden]

Piracy doesn't hurt sales? Huh? It literally is how you hurt sales.

[Pocahontas]

Absolute, beautiful delusion.

[derek]

@luckytrouble just becuase a game sells "well" doesn't mean piracy had no effect of course it does. Lol. If you can't steal a game, you'll have to buy it, meaning more sales, right. Lol

[luckytrouble]

I like how people don't know how using data to prove an evidence based point works. It's fundamentally borderline impossible to prove a pirated copy of a game would have been a purchased copy otherwise. Assuming that's the case is a leap in logic with zero support to back it up.

If you've ever been in a piracy scene of any kind, you know two things tend to lead to piracy: either someone simply pirates because it's all free to them so why not try it, or they don't have the purchasing power and want to play the games, watch the movie, etc.. The latter category may become a purchase down the line regardless, while the former doesn't associate a monetary value with what they pirate anyways.

If you want to prove that piracy actually hurts sales, you would need to know *why* someone pirated and if they would have purchased the game had piracy not been an option. Without that level of data as a baseline, you simply can't prove a pirated copy is actually a lost sale. Assuming pirated copy = unsold game copy is just what companies do because they can't measure any provable impact, so they just assume there is one and do their due diligence to protect their properties.

[ufo8mycat]

Don’t get me wrong, the game is great, BUT they are still charging full price for a game that is outdated graphically by more then 6 years (switch was outdated on release), runs at 30fps.

Piracy has its place. If a publisher is going to overcharge for a product.

PC version for me. 60 fps as well. If it was 60 fps on Switch with todays standards, I would gladly support Nintendo and buy it full price

[ifinitygamer]

This is completely wrong. If you don't want something because you don't agree with the price or can't afford it or don't want to spend the money, or the product has a flaw in your eyes - whatever the reason is - you don't have the right to steal it. You can't argue that a car is too overpriced so the dealership should just give it to you. Yes, it's the same "you wouldn't steal a car" argument from the movies, but it's true.

[Profchaos]

But if we're looking at the product as a whole the hardware is dated but it's not the games fault.

So pirating it because you feel the product is flawed is just theft if you don't intend to buy it.

I've seen two arguments for pirating 1 I paid for it and I want to experience it in 4k 60 etc and that's entirely different from argument b I think I should get it free because insert entitled excuse here

[sadraiden]

Good Graphics =/= Good Game.

What you can rely on is that Zelda has good gameplay. You choosing the pirate a game that isn't even out yet because you deem it to be too expensive is a shitty rationale. Piracy is usually only condoned by the community if there are no modern options to play the game reliably. We're talking about the latest Zelda on a current gen console.

Also, I'd be super worried about internet honeypots. TOTK is arguably the hottest commodity in gaming currently. You think Nintendo isn't acutely aware of what sites are distributing it's golden IP?

[nommers]

@sadraiden

"Good Graphics =/= Good Game."

This might come as a shock to some nintendo fans, but you can have both great gameplay and great graphics at the same time.

"What you can rely on is that Zelda has good gameplay"

Not for combat so much anymore. Zelda has been long left behind there. Zelda only now shines in approach and puzzle based gameplay. BOTW also had a very lacking soundtrack so it seems like multiple areas of Zelda games are being let to waste.

[antikbaka]

nintendo doesn't sell here

[kainslayer]

dont worry nintendo fanatics got pirates covered,game is a littlebit boring tbh also you spend a lot of time building shit forr kindergardeners anyway...pcmr ftw

[Number1TailzFan]

Probably runs and looks a ton better too, Nintendo are so late with their next machine.

[Good-Smurf]

Only one proper settings away from running better than Switch hardware at 1440p/4K some already made 60 fps mod for it even though it still WIP.

[sadraiden]

What's wrong with the Switch? State of the Art graphics isn't Nintendo's wheelhouse. They aren't interested in competing with Sony/MS and the PC market. They'll continue to make Switch games as long as people keep buying the system in droves.

[DankSinatra]

That’s all these people care about. To them amazing graphics = amazing game

[fsfsxii]

I dunno man, the switch has trouble maintaining 30fps, doesn't sound like they're pushing the system graphically, the problem lies in the system's underpowered nature by design, they nickel and dime you and give you a substandard experience, but for you sheep its 'part of the charm' lmao
could never be me

[IamTylerDurden1]

It will win consensus GOTY.

[LiViNgLeGaCY]

100% it will.

[Vits]

Yeap, it's running pretty well on Ryujinx. Just some visuals glitches on cutscenes and you have to run it at 2x otherwise the game locks itself at 20fps for some reason.

Probably getting it once it's in stores as well. But I do wonder how well it will run on original hardware, a lot of stuff looks better than BOTW. Draw distance in particular feels like double.

[walken7]

I saw something for a 30fps and 60fps patch, but can't speak to the truth of it. I don't know if my pc could handle it anyway, so haven't bothered, I can wait til next Friday.

[sadraiden]

Numerous builds of the game, including some versions that have locked framerates, ensure that if a leak occurs and the game gets out in the wild, only so many people at Nintendo will have had access to that build, narrowing the search for the leaker.

[Abear21]

Nintendo Switch $200
Zelda TOTK $70
Emulating on PC $2000
Claiming you’re actually a gamer when you steal and harm the very industry you love just to play a broken version but that’s all you can afford bc you blew your wad on a PC? Priceless.

[isarai]

That's not how that works. That's like saying I spent $15k on a car just to drive to the store. PC has more uses than a switch, also you can emulate on like $700, probably like $550 if you buy used and price hunt. Lastly, many people who pirate still actually buy the game, but when you have the option to run it better than the switch can, why not?

[VariantAEC]

It's sad how many deluded PC fans liked this conmment... clearly they don't know Yuzu and Ryujinx run pretty badly and cannot push BoTW at 60FPS on hardware MORE ADVANCED than PS5/XSX.

Also how many PC guys are really doing important stuff on their computers. If they're smart not many.

[ufo8mycat]

PC - $0
People already own a PC who choose to play it on there.
Btw, the Switch IS the broken version. 30fps with outdated graphics. Go look at Breath of the Wild on PC, then look/play it on Switch and tell me which is broken.

[VariantAEC]

To steal some words from isarai "that's not how that works" especially when you know that the best Switch emulator (Yuzu if you feel differently, you're just wrong) still can't run BoTW at 60FPS unlocked on far more powerful GPUs including GPUs that vastly outstrip PS5/XSX. The rigs I've seen trying to push 60 are rocking 13th gen CPUs and an RTX 4090.
Seeing as how the 4090 just came out half a year ago and has a $1,600 RRP.... Abear21 is sounding pretty correct and all you clowns are sounding miserably uneducated about all this.

[badz149]

err...why are we suddenly getting anti-piracy activists here promoting Nintendo games? I don't see this kind of movement with any other releases we had so far?

[VariantAEC]

@FortWaba, isarai and ufo8mycat
You're all wrong and FortWaba is most definitely a child in a cognitive sense here.
More specifically at isarai who idiotically wrote: "PC has more uses than a switch, also you can emulate on like $700, probably like $550 if you buy used and price hunt. Lastly, many people who pirate still actually buy the game, but when you have the option to run it better than the switch can, why not?"
None of that is relevant in the face of mobile phones which basically do everything AND are far more efficient than Switch or PCs. Sure you can't play many modern games on phones (unless you stream), but all the important things you're PC does runs great on ohones. All the official MS Office apps as well as generic notepads, calculators, spreadsheet and slide presentation apps exist along with Python and several other interpretors and programming apps exist and on Android you can do it all with a k/m if you choose (some apps weren't made for tiny touch screens, but that's usually a dev limit not a tech limit especially these days). To have a PC to play modern games... is kind of doing things super duper wrong. I'm not totally against emulation especially of ancient games on platforms no one can even buy anymore, but if you emulate to play games you never owned, but crucially you could've played at the time and for years and years... you're still doing it wrong. Today PCs are really for making things not for playing games and even so it still takes PCs more powerful than mine to play these Switch games... so Abear21 is also 100% right. My PC is a laptop and it was pretty expensive at the time because it was purchased to create and debug large simulations. If I'd purchased a desktop I could've saved some cash (well not really, but I'd be less restricted). Thing is I don't play many games on PC because it's not for that and I don't do much of anything else on my PC because productivity today is better handled on phones anyway...
My point is these Switch emulators don't run all that well on CPUs from 6 years ago never mind GPUs from that same era. So you'd really need a pretty good PC by today's standards to even run Switch games via emulation well. That means you've paid more or are going to upgrade your PC just to play a broken version of the game right now on PC vs on Switch. At this point I'm on the fence about hating Nintendo but the stupid s••• you're saying makes me think about considering buying a Switch and downloading the emu to compare the versions just to show you how wrong you are. (Thankfully I don't have to).
YUZU running BoTW on an RTX 3060 at 30FPS: https://youtu.be/8Lwf_h8aqU...
Whoops!
A comparison between Switch Emulators and CEMU (The Wii U emulator): https://youtu.be/f4Wt-PnBAU...

At ufo8mycat: "Btw, the Switch IS the broken version. 30fps with outdated graphics. Go look at Breath of the Wild on PC, then look/play it on Switch and tell me which is broken"
Is Breath of The Wild on PC a different game than on Switch? No. All the games AI, mechanics and gameplay bugs are still there and even with sometimes complicated to install mods (depending on the emu) the game barely looks any better. 60FPS at 4K on that nearly $2K PC with loads of bugs and no improvements outside of a framerate and res boost vs 30FPS at 720p to 900p on a $300 handheld with no glaring visual bugs... I'd probably choose the latter knowing all the catches of the former...

[franwex]

It’s interesting how people will pay money for the game, to then pirate it to play it on better frame rate. I guess it’s not really piracy.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Exactly it's the best experience or wanting to play ahead of the spoilers and I bought the collectors edition and the zelda oled switch to support Nintendo and artists.

[franwex]

Dang dude. All that? I was thinking that just buying digitally from eshop and then “pirating” it on PC would’ve suffice.

I personally would just probably play it digitally on the switch.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Fran

I like the game and love the series so of course I want it to succeed even if I'm playing it on ryujinx rn.

[meganick]

Dungeons or no dungeons? That’s all I want to know.

[ZeekQuattro]

There are multiple dungeons. The subreddit for the game had the maps up for them and their locations.

[meganick]

If true, that is great. That was the main thing I wanted that I felt was lacking in BotW.

[gold_drake]

yea ... ive been spoiled big time.

sucks. why are people like this

[Good-Smurf]

Runs quite well on Ryujinx even at 2x resolution.
Only the shader compiling can be terrible at times drop down to high teens but resolve itself pretty quickly.
Much better than Sonic Frontiers which constantly struggle to hit over 25 fps on my setup.
60 fps mod doesn't quite work at the moment for me it simply makes the game speed tied to frame rate when it can't hit 60 fps so game's in slow motion.

[Pyrofire95]

Crooked Nin10doh

[Pyrofire95]

I hate giving money to Nintendo.
That said I don't have an issue paying for ZELDA. I love it more than my hate of the Business heads at Big N.
The only reason I don't want to buy it is it's locked on the ancient Switch.
Make and Switch 2 or whatever and I'll get it there.
I'm sure they'll re-release it and get so many people to buy it twice at $70. Or something along those lines.

[talocaca]

I really wish Nintendo would just fast track the release at this point. It feels like we are being punished for doing the right thing 😑

I pre-ordered and still have to wait 10 days.

[sadraiden]

Of course people are. And while I appreciate that gamer hustle to experience the biggest game of the year first, I'll wait a few more days and get an actual copy of the game.

[Andrew336]

I tried it on pc and was shocked when I had to pick Link's pronoun.

[Chryzz23]

Definitely runs well on Ryujinx and with the 60fps mod it run so smooth....FANTASTIC GAME !!

[radagem]

I'm buying the game. But proud to see my jack sparrow bros sticking it to Nintendo. Screw Nintendo and their games never go on sale. Pikmin 4 and Metroid 4 and I'm done with this console. Gave it to my kids already.

[DankSinatra]

The amount of people here arguing “it’s good to pirate because Nintendo deserves it for not having better graphics” is absolutely ridiculous.

[OzzY-waZZy]

Can anyone answer my question since BotW.. Are there proper dungeons in TotK?

[fsfsxii]

Serves nintendo right. I never bought a nintendo machine or game full price, always used, won't support scummy practices.

[DankSinatra]

What exactly is scummy? What is it they’re doing that’s any different from the others?

[MocBistro]

It runs like total shit on Ryujinx