Was Kingdom Hearts 3 Really All That Bad?

For better or worse, it still does all the things a Kingdom Hearts game does.

[jambola]

In ways yes
Crappy ending, 90% of story contained to the last world
Unsatisfying conclusions
But it was fun
I'll say above average but disappointing

[-Foxtrot]

Yeah pretty much

Convoluted story because they thought it would be fun to do a dozen spin offs before the final game in the Xehanort saga. Didn't help they added a smidge of time travel in near the end of the game...that's NEVER a good idea. Also the games motivation to go to other worlds was basically so Sora could regain his power of waking as he lost it in Dream Drop Distance, I felt they could have had a better way of going to other worlds rather than a plot line to depower Sora.

The worlds didn't feel as big and some of the choices were baffling, I mean Frozen, Pirates of the Caribbean (again), Toy Story BUT didn't follow the plot of the film but rather a new story. Then you had Olympus again but no colosseum.

No Final Fantasy characters at all

The Attractions mechanic got old fast, I would have rather seen a bigger focus on magic or summons

Also the combat felt off in places, a little "floaty" if that makes sense. The combat in Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix was better.

[goldwyncq]

"The worlds didn't feel as big"

That's just nonsense. KH3 has by far the biggest worlds in the entire series. PotC was pretty much a smaller version of AC Black Flag with all the islands you could explore, and Olympus, Toy Story, and the BH6 worlds were bigger than most worlds in the previous games.

[-Foxtrot]

I did say they didn't "feel" as big, not that they were

But for a KH game on the PS4 when the other two were on the PS2 I was expecting a lot bigger, size which would really show these worlds in all their glory for being two generations ahead now.

[FallenAngel1984]

“they thought it would be fun to do a dozen spin offs before the final game in the Xehanort saga”

It was because it was necessary. The devs that made KH1 & KH2 went onto to make FFvXIII that later became FFXV. Nomura stated they wouldn’t start work on KH3 until after FFvXIII was finished. This would’ve meant the series would’ve remained dormant until after FFXV came out if there weren’t any handheld entries to keep the series going in the meantime.

[-Foxtrot]

Necessary? Lol

How about just don’t do it, wait for KH3 eventually OR do spin off games that have nothing to do with the main story

[FallenAngel1984]

Because you don’t let a lucrative property go dormant when you clearly have the option of keeping it thriving

[Snookies12]

Nope, game was amazing. The hate it gets is ridiculous. Sure, there are complaints I have about it. It's not perfect. But people out here act like it's downright awful. At the very least, it's a good-to-great game.

[lucian229]

Pretty bad for kingdom hearts

[Pyrofire95]

Some ways. Sure. Frozen certainly felt like a mess and combos too often lead to aerials. Flash over substance, moves too often taking away the camera control. WTF was the Pirates level. Captain Jack SHOULD have been a Keyblade wielder. Smh

[Lore]

They need to go back to a more grounded approach. The level design was a huge disappointment. KH 1 and 2 offered so many fun platforming elements and a well balanced RPG progression system.

And for Nomura to try and make the characters stand out on their own is ridiculous in my opinion. Don’t exclude Final Fantasy characters simply for the sake of it, utilize the FF characters in an imaginative manner and bring back what made fans fall in love with the series.

[goldwyncq]

But I fell in love with the series as a kid because of the Disney stuff, not the Final Fantasy stuff. The ridiculous anime crap Square Enix added with the Organization XIII and Xehanort and his army of alternate selves is what made the story go downhill.

[RPGer]

Square Enix is Japanese company. It is like saying oh Marvel doing Cartoon and comics crap, well dah.

Anime will always be better than Dc/marvel, on average.

[goldwyncq]

Based on what? For every good anime there are hundreds more generic shows filled with mindless fanservice and nonsensical plots.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

KH2 was the pinnacle of the franchise, it's all downhill from that point.

[GhostScholar]

I enjoyed it myself

[rayford15]

I loved it

[OMNlPOTENT]

I mean was it the worse in the main trilogy? Probably. Was it better than every other game in the entire series besides KH1 and KH2? Yes. Before the Re:mind update, game was probably a 7/10, I would give it an 8/10 today. Story was mediocre compared to the other games, but I think the gameplay and worlds were solid.

[RPGer]

Combat was fun, some free roam was done very good and in other world it did feel like fan made thing.

Story wise it was so poor and the shortage of progression is so disappointing. I mean all the OG cuntscense were inside the ship until the very last 3 hours.

FF characters were always nice addition, suddenly they are not in the game without any explanation (typical KH). But this isn't the main problem.

I mean a lot of people were expecting more of OG KH context, and I am sure that KH3 has the minimal amount of OG content and informations among the whole series.

[Silver_ShadoWolf]

Just wasn’t great. They played off of nostalgia. It just wasn’t worth the 20 year wait.

[Silver_ShadoWolf]

Why does this have a Pc tag???

[FallenAngel1984]

Because Kingdom Hearts is on PC 😑

[gold_drake]

more or less.

it didnt feel like it was its own game and just a game to conclude all the madness that Nomura spun with all the spin off games over many years.

also, the CANON Story DLC is 30 quid. 30!!!

ive also grown tired of these lifeless characters. the writing . dear god.

the gameplay was great tho and it looked great.

[jambola]

yeah
considering you can get most / every game in the franchise for roughly the same price
that's an insane dlc price

[Furesis]

Honestly as time has passed i think it's gotten worse. I don't think to myself "oh i wanna replay that game" but with KH 2 i don't mind replaying that someday.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

Yes, yes it was, the game was a huge slog to get through compared to some of the earlier games (particularly KH 1 & 2), it was boring and the the gameplay was far too easy (gameplay wasn't bad, things just died before you got a good taste of combat).

Also wasn't a good idea to split the story across multiple systems unless they were side games (unfortunately they were vital to the story). Plus the KH3 story didn't progress in a satisfying or fun way and it missed story beats we should have seen in the game, but happened off screen.

I honestly don't know how you can make a action rpg with Disney Characters and worlds so boring to play through. Definitely not buying another game in the franchise after KH3, probably should have just let the series die/stay dead.

[Elda]

It was ok, not better than KH 1 & 2.

[Christopher]

83% Metacritic score, 80% user score. In what world is this "really that bad"?

[Blaze929]

Yes.

[gleepot]

I liked it. I've never understood the story at all. The game was fun though.

[MadLad]

Yes.