With the overarching rise of popularity of many action titles, the stealth genre has taken a hit, both in quality and quantity.
Video Games have become much more realistic at depicting violence. Are we reaching a breaking point between realism and violence?
It's also fun/cool/whatever makes people interested in a product that will mostly decide what's worth making more realistic or not.
And sure, a future virtual and super realistic surgery sim using haptic gloves may become a reality.
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Watching surgery videos on youtube is difficult (for me). Seeing the incisions occur and all the yellow fat, blood, guts being exposed makes me feel sick. I bring this up because I feel there is definitely a point where games can be too realistic. When a game really looks like real life in all aspects (not just hyper realistic environments) our actual emotional discomfort will start to kick in.
yeah, I play games to experience realism after experiencing realism in real life -- super fun!
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Right!?!? We have a rating system already. M for mature can contain graphic violence. If you can't handle it don't buy games rated M.
I think rape crosses the line for realism in a video game. If there is a rape scene in a game it shouldn’t be graphic. I’m all for dismemberment and gore but rape doesn’t sit well with me.
It wouldn't sit well with me either, but if everyone carved up depictions of violence according to their own sensibilities, there would be no violence in games at all.
Certainly, the suggestion to not be too graphic with rape is probably something everyone can agree on. Even Game of Thrones kept it relatively kosher. In reality, I suppose a depiction only needs to go as far as effectively communicating how evil/violent characters are. The article take about MK1, but I think that's always been what draws or repulses an audience to Mortal Kombat. The use of extreme violence in a game like The Last of Us actually works very well for narrative purposes. It really helped to immerse me into Part II where I despised Abby (until the end, I suppose) and really understood how batshit insane the Seraphites/Scars are. In the absence of that extreme depiction as a narrative tool, you get the sense that the world is sanitized and "inauthentic".
For me, it is exactly that extreme violence that gets me into the mindset that we're dealing with some truly reprehensible characters and you get to understand the extent of their evil.
Imagine Jigsaw as a character without the horrible deaths: you'd just think he's setting people up for failure. With that violence, there's much more precision in capturing the type of person he is.
Just my thinking.
That's fair. For me it depends on how it's depicted and what's the context behind the event.
"I'm all for dismemberment and gore but rape..."
Fuck sake, that is totally messed-up and the reason why we are here with this nonsense attitude towards anything sexual in games. Attempted rape scene in Tomb Raider 2012 game, which some outlets got all pissy about but none gave a crap about the many gruesome death scenes.
If a game is clearly marked as having extreme content, then all cards should be on the table (aside from any underage nonsense). It seems Japanese sex games include unwilling participants as a fetish. Not for everyone, I get that but rape is just too taboo in the West but killing someone is totally acceptable, encouraged even.
Fucked-up that is.
The biggest question that should be asked is. Do we actually need rape in games? Short answer NO. But if a dev wants to make a game that includes that then let them. Consumers can use their right to choose and NOT PLAY IT.
Look it's really important how it's depicted. Now as much as I understand your point about murder. It's weird cause you aren't wrong, but most cases of murder in games is usually predicated on the fact that these enemies are attacking and trying to kill you so you are defending yourself so murder is most always worse than rape but you can have a justifiable reason for killing In defense, but there is never a justifiable reason to rape.
I agree with if someone wants to make it, but understand due to severity of the issue, people may not have like it and it's their right to voice their issue.
Honestly one of the worst scenes I remember (I've seen most of the supposedly violent movies, not naming them u can google them if ud like) was from a French film whose story was told backwards, so at the movies end (chronological beginners) it depicts a 12 minute rape scene. Realistic as fuck that I felt sick for seating through it.
I know some would say why on earth would a movie go that Realistic? What's the art in that?
Well when if a Realistic depiction can make me feel like shit, I don't even think I could imagine how terrible it actually is to go through and live with that experience.
I don't know if a game could do the same effect, to show rape in its true terror, not a bunch of short cut aways thats lessen the impact.but I guess if one tried and succeeded it'd be something.
Just Ya know, people should be at least warned either way.
I am struggling to make an argument as to why I am ok with the most realistic gore you can have, but against rape in a game... I want gore because enjoy letting loose in red dead 2 or last of us 2; would never think about it in real life. There are people I assume who would say the same thing about rape in a game...logically I am a hypocrite...I understand this, but maybe rape crosses a moral line that gore doesn't in games and movies?
@mkis, nah you are right to feel repulsed. I have seen tones of murder on film to no effect but the few rape scenes I've seen in film have always stuck with me in the worst way. No need to explain it you just know you don't want to see it.
I always hated stealth in games. There is nothing worse for me than forced stealth sections where being discovered equals instant failure.
I love stealth games. But there are a few games that let you choose how to handle those situation. TLoU was great at. that.
Stealth can be so satisfying when done right. You just gotta, well, do it right!
It seems like "every" game has a stealth section and most games have the option. It has been assimilated not killed.
I’m surprised more MGSV mechanics aren’t copied to improve other stealth games.
Quick dive is huge.