Final Fantasy 16 rockets up sales charts after State of Play showcase

April 13 saw a big Final Fantasy 16 gameplay presentation as part of a PlayStation State of Play broadcast.

Now, the following day, Final Fantasy 16 sits atop Amazon US's best-selling games chart, overtaking the likes of Star Wars Jedi: Survivor, NBA 2K23, the Resident Evil 4 remake, and the Dead Space remake.

[SullysCigar]

Heard about this. People came away seriously hyped after the State of Play deep dive, so presumably everyone's rushed out and pre-ordered it.

It does look awesome. Seems to incorporate all the best parts of the top games in their genre into one Final Fantasy package. Easy day one.

[blackblades]

Guess that should shut the people up that was throwing "it was a waste of time" out

[Adrian_v01]

Honestly I was a bit disappointed by the graphics in this state of play, especially the in game character models. Made my hype drop somewhat.

[sparky77]

Not really news, it's not even in the best sellers for 2023 so this bump doesn't prove much. Even Forespoken topped the charts after showcases.

But again I hope it sells well because SE needs a win.

[Jigga69]

Final Fantasy VII Remake did 5 million in less than 4 months. Check the Square Enix tweet here :
https://www.vgchartz.com/ar...

After almost 3 years, sales must be way higher. So yes, it's also a success. Go troll and cry elsewhere. ;-)

[shinoff2183]

Ff7r has sold 14 million according to what I just read

[andy85]

FFVIIR did absolutely miles more than 5 million 😂 those numbers are before the PS5 and PC version (where it was #1 for multiple weeks) and over 2 years ago.

[Chevalier]

5 million was only from 2020 April launch till August 2020 confirmed 5+ million only 4 months later. Estimated to have done about 15+ in their first year if sales.

[RauLeCreuset]

I just pre-ordered a Deluxe Edition to help alleviate your concern!

[Hofstaderman]

That steelbook 👌🏻

[Obscure_Observer]

"But will it sell as well as FF15 and get 10ml in sales? I don't see that happening when FF7R only managed 5ml."

I think it depends on how well the game performs on Metacritic. If it scores 90 or higher, I think it has the potential to sell more than FF7R, but definitely will not sell as well as FF15, because its exclusive to PS5 which will probably be around 35 million units sold around June. Heavy hitters like Jedi Survivor and Diablo 4 will also be a factor.

Still, like you said, here´s hoping the game finds great success in sales. SE definitely need it. I also hope SE to be acquired by Sony after FFXVI release, after all, Sony will have to do something to counter ABK as part of XGS.

[RauLeCreuset]

"I also hope SE to be acquired by Sony after FFXVI release, after all, Sony will have to do something to counter ABK as part of XGS."

Your past statements give the impression the above quote is using a fake display of concern to gloat about ABK and spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt about Sony's future.

You went from "Sony will get what they deserve" and "I don´t pity them a bit" 75 days ago to "I also hope SE to be acquired by Sony after FFXVI release" because "Sony will have to do something to counter ABK as part of XGS"?

"'"It's a business.'

"It is. And since Sony is making disgusting exclusion agreements to prevent third party games ever comes to Xbox, do not expect MS to play fair with them.

"Sony will get what they deserve."

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"@BehindTheRows

"'You can't make this up.'

"I don´t need to. Facts speaks by itself. Sony will get what they deserve. Fire against fire. Glove´s off. It´s simple as that.

"@Shadowsteal

"'You got it backwards. Microsoft started their acquisition spree 5+ years ago. Sony made these deals to compete instead of purchasing developers and publishers at the same rate as Microsoft.'

"Nah, dude. Sony has been doing it for a long time, since the PS1 days. They did the same thing to prevent FFVII to come to others platforms, among many many titles back in the day.

"Since nor SEGA or Nintendo had the amount of money Sony had at the time, SEGA was merciless crushed as Sony made almost all third party games exclusive to Playstation. They didn´t had to do that. SEGA was third at that time.

"Now they´re facing a company that can fight back and harder. And I don´t pity them a bit."

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[Obscure_Observer]

@RauLeCreuset

Yes, Sony will get what they deserve like we predicted since the ABK acquisiton process started. All of Sony´s shady practices will come to light and Sony don´t have anyone to blame but themselves.

To said Sony will get what they deserve doesn´t mean I want Playstation to disappear. I never said that. I said many times that I don´t care whether Sony acquires SE. Capcom or even From Software.

I just want Jim Ryan to STFU and do something about it.

You won´t see me here crying over any studio or publisher Sony might acquire in the future because I´ll just buy their console if it have the games I want, period!

[shinoff2183]

It'll come out to pc to. Plus I think it said xbox accounted for 2 million of ff15 sales. I got suckered into buying ff15 myself

[shinoff2183]

Obscure Sony didn't prevent og ff7 from coming to Nintendo. Nintendo did by being stubborn and sticking with cartridges. It's well known. Also Sony didn't stop ff from coming to sega. Ff was never on sega. Maybe Nintendo stopped it way back. It's known the Saturn was horrible to develop for maybe square wanted no part.

[RauLeCreuset]

"To said Sony will get what they deserve doesn´t mean I want Playstation to disappear. I never said that. I said many times that I don´t care whether Sony acquires SE. Capcom or even From Software."

Interesting. I never said you want Playstation to disappear. Yours was the first comment here to bring up PS disappearing as a result of the ABK acquisition. You have said similar things previously, like when you claimed Sony is playing the victim like they will go bankrupt if the sale goes through. You doth protest too much, methinks, and revealed more than you intended. It seems you view the ABK acquisition as an existential threat that could end Playstation and are very excited by that prospect. Because revenge for Sega! Or whatever...

"Sony is playing victim to the point of downplaying their own studios telling regulators that no studio could ever beat COD´s level o success and popularity, like they will go bankrupt in case MS acquires Activision/Blizzard.

"It´s good that someone is willing to call out Sony on how full of sh!t they are when comes to achieve their interests."

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Isn't that ironic? Remember "I never said that"? Sony never said they will go bankrupt. That was your characterization of their argument because you ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ hope that will be the case.

[Obscure_Observer]

@RauLeCreuset

"It seems you view the ABK acquisition as an existential threat that could end Playstation and are very excited by that prospect."

The only who believes the ABK´s acquisition by MS as some kind of existential threat to Playstation is Jim Ryan himself.

"Because revenge for Sega! Or whatever..."

More like poetic justice, I would say. What you put out into the universe it gives back to you.

"Isn't that ironic? Remember "I never said that"? Sony never said they will go bankrupt. That was your characterization of their argument."

No ironic at all. I said Sony act like they´ll go bankrupt in case the ABK´s deal pass through. That´s my interpretation of Ryan´s little act.

"because you ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ hope that will be the case."

That´s your interpretation. I´m pretty sure I´d said Playstation will go nowhere with or without COD, but somehow you couldn´t find it in my comment history. Maybe you missed it, maybe not. Anyway, this deal will go thru and Sony will have to deal with both regulators and politicians not to mention the fact that they´ll have to try and secure COD for Playstation if they´re really worried about Playstation gamers, which means they´ll have to deal with MS going forward.

Are they will ask them to sign that 10 year deal that they previously refused? Are they´ll tell MS to shove it? Are they´ll focus in develop of their own COD killer? Only God knows.

All i can say for certain is that the day after the ABK´s acquisition approval, nothing will change for Playstation players. Enjoy your gaming.

[RauLeCreuset]

@Obscure

You sure sound like someone who genuinely wants this PS5 game to find "great success in sales" and "hope SE to be acquired by Sony" and not at all like someone with a 20 year old ax they're trying to grind. /s

"That´s your interpretation."

You mean like how it's your interpretation that Sony acts like or believes* an ABK acquisition is an existential threat??? As you admitted in your reply. Now you want to call out interpretations??? The difference is that you're the one who keeps making comments about the deal putting Playstation out of business, not Sony or Jim Ryan. You're projecting your own beliefs onto Sony that the deal is an existential threat. There's a reason you avoid quoting what was said by Sony or JR to support your interpretation. You know that comments about how the deal could hurt or reduce Playstation's business don't add up to your deliberate mischaracterizations that they're saying it will put them out of business.

*Which is it by the way? Is Sony full of it and playing victim to act like the deal will bankrupt them, or do they actually believe it? You've made both arguments. They can't both be true.

"I´m pretty sure I´d said Playstation will go nowhere with or without COD, but somehow you couldn´t find it in my comment history. Maybe you missed it, maybe not."

1) I love how you say that as if that's on me to do. Maybe it's on you to locate and produce evidence FROM YOUR OWN COMMENT HISTORY that YOU BELIEVE supports YOUR argument? We're still waiting on you to provide quotes to support your interpretation of Sony's comments. It's not enough that I backed up my own argument with supporting evidence? It's also on me to predict your rebuttal, read your mind, and find in your comment history where you said something that you claim is relevant? Something still couldn't be bothered to produce while calling me out for not doing it for you?

2) You seem to be under the impression that I had to wade through your comment history reading comments to find those quotes from you. You would be wrong, and perhaps not so careless if you knew how easy they were to find.

[Obscure_Observer]

@RauLeCreuset

"There's a reason you avoid quoting what was said by Sony or JR to support your interpretation. You know that comments about how the deal could hurt or reduce Playstation's business don't add up to your deliberate mischaracterizations that they're saying it will put them out of business."

By Jim Ryan:

"Our Business Would Never Recover' If Microsoft Degraded Call of Duty on PlayStation"

*Never* Recover. There, his words, not mine. You asked by a quote, I´d provided. In case you don´t think there´s something very wrong about such statements, just keep it to yourself and save us both some useful time trying to convince me otherwise.

1) and 2)

I'll summarize it in a few worlds:

I don´t think that anything is or have to be "on you" about the points you made. You´re the one who searched through my comment history, posting selected quotes, asking me questions which I´d responded in a politely fashion.

Now, whether you believe in anything I said or not, is up to you. My comment history is public to anyone to see. If you don´t have further questions, it was nice to have this little conversation with you.

Happy gaming.

[RauLeCreuset]

@Obscure

"In case you don´t think there´s something very wrong about such statements, just keep it to yourself and save us both some useful time trying to convince me otherwise."

You said that because you know what's coming, just as surely as I knew what you would go scrambling for once I called you out. Don't worry, I would never be foolish enough to make convincing you otherwise the measure of the validity of an argument. That's not the goal. I'll be here forever. It's not in you. What I will do is expose why you're wrong. I don't care at all that you can't accept it. Don't comment if you don't want a response. Now that we're clear on that—

"By Jim Ryan:

"'Our Business Would Never Recover' If Microsoft Degraded Call of Duty on PlayStation'

1) You said (or tried to) that I asked for a quote. That's false. I didn't ask you for a quote. I pointed out that "there's a reason you avoid quoting what was said by Sony or JR to support your interpretation," and that it's because "you know that comments about how the deal could hurt or reduce Playstation's business don't add up to your deliberate mischaracterizations that they're saying it will put them out of business." Hold on to that last quote. We'll be coming back to it shortly.

2) That's actually by VGChartz. That's a headline that is part Jim Ryan quote and part VGChartz paraphrasing. You gave no indication of that, didn't correctly cite your source, and didn't include a link to the quote. If you want to do like I do, do it like I do it. I provided quotes from you, not someone else's summary of what you said, and I included links so we don't have to play these games about what was said in what context and rely on interpretation. Here's the VGChartz article you quoted. https://www.vgchartz.com/ar...

3) Even the VGChartz headline you tried to pass off as by Jim Ryan presents his comments in the context of what he thinks would happen IF Microsoft DEGRADED Call of Duty on Playstation, not JR thinking "they´ll go bankrupt in case the ABK´s deal pass through," as you have repeatedly mischaracterized. They aren't saying it will happen, and it would be foolish to say that. Apply common sense. You think a publicly traded corporation is going to say they'll go bankrupt if a deal with a good chance of going through is approved? That's a good way to go bankrupt. They don't need to do or risk all that. They are arguing that MS has an incentive to make COD exclusive and that doing so would harm (not bankrupt) PS because those are the things the CMA are looking at for the console market.

4) "Our business would never recover" does not equal "we'll go bankrupt." Again, they don't need to convince the CMA that the deal will bankrupt them. They only have to convince the CMA that the deal "may be expected to
result in a substantial lessening of competition (SLC) in gaming consoles." ( https://assets.publishing.s...

5) Which brings us back to what I said before you replied. "You know that comments about how the deal could hurt or reduce Playstation's business don't add up to your deliberate mischaracterizations that they're saying it will put them out of business."

[RauLeCreuset]

"I don´t think that anything is or have to be 'on you' about the points you made. You´re the one who searched through my comment history, posting selected quotes, asking me questions which I´d responded in a politely fashion."

You said it's not on me, before strongly implying that I should have gone through your comment history for comments you think are relevant for a counterargument you hadn't made yet. SMH.

I told you I didn't have to wade through your comment history to find what I quoted. Do you think I read through or skimmed 75 days worth of comments to find that? I didn't read through a single page. It's a combination of going about it efficiently and remembering what you said because you made a whole production of posting the origin story for what is apparently your more than 20 year grudge against Sony.

That comment history, including comments elsewhere in this article, provides reason to question whether your OP is hiding behind feigned concern.

[shinoff2183]

The news came out like a day later.

[shinoff2183]

Sparky ff7 remake says 14 million in sales wtf are you talking about 5 mill day one?

[ironmonkey]

It's a troll bro, he calls himself us Xbox fans. Kids being kids.

[Chevalier]

Wow get your FACTS straight.

https://www.google.com/amp/...

They sold over 5 million back in 2020 August. The game released in April that year. They did 5 million in 4 MONTHS! Because the game launched 2020 April! So you think it sold NOTHING in the 3 years since?! Lol. Shows how dumb you are.

Sorry there goes you're idiotic uninformed Rant. Estimates have FF7 Remake selling over 15 million during their first year

[RauLeCreuset]

Add to your argument that FF7R also released on PS+. Sparky will cape for Game Pass and make arguments that player count for an Xbox exclusive is more important than the sales of a PS exclusive but pretends to be concerned about how many sales a PS game that sold 5 million in 4 months before also getting paid twice to be on a sub got compared to the game before it.

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The original PS4 version released as part of the March 2021 PS+ monthly games in its first year. Like other monthly titles, it will remain available to anyone with an active PS+ subscription who claimed it while it was a monthly offering.

https://blog.playstation.co...

The enhanced PS5 version, Intergrade, was released for PS+ Extra and Premium last July and is still available.

https://blog.playstation.co...

[iivGHOST]

Ive never played a ff game before but this one looked really good. Might have to be the first one i play

[Gardenia]

It's only a Final Fantasy game by name. The real Final Fantasy games died long ago unfortunately.

[Elda]

It's called 'Evolved"

[Stanjara]

So finally I can play it.