NVIDIA & CDPR Devs Recommend A Powerful PC With RTX 40 GPUs To Run Cyberpunk 2077 Path Tracing

NVIDIA & CD Projekt Red have revealed that you will need a powerful PC with RTX 40 GPUs to run Cyberpunk 2077 with Path Tracing enabled.

[Kaii]

Nah people shouldn't purchase overpriced cards

[badboyz09]

Agree

[ZycoFox]

Nvidia and now AMD are upping prices, they have been steadily rising for a while now. Apparently there's loads of stock hanging around in warehouses of certain cards, hopefully that continues and then they'll have no choice but to lower prices.

There's a chance next gen will be much better price/performance, it happened going from 2000 - 3000 series.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

The GPU market is so borked, I partially blame Nvidia for this (crypto, AI and inflation probably play a significant part too), I'm just sitting on the sidelines with my 1080Ti waiting for an inevitable correction where the prices become more reasonable.

[Tapani]

While I agree, the 4090 has a better relative performance/price ration than the 4080. And as the stack goes further down, the price/performance ratio weakens. This is an unfortunate situation, but the 4090 is a one-of-a-kind card this generation and reminds me of the GTX1080ti when it came out. A bit pricey, but just on another level in terms of performance.

[DaMist]

This is how i looked at it, I got the 4090 and if one can afford it, i recommend it, all the others in this line up aren't worth it, at all.

[Gwiz]

IKR the game is not that great.

[frostypants]

I love how they blamed crypto mining demand, then when that subsided...their prices are still insane.

Them and AMD need to be dragged to court because this looks a lot like collusion between them to fix prices.

[GoodGuy09]

Well duh, they'll always want you to buy the latest and greatest.

[MadLad]

Nah. I got lucky and actually found a 3080 at MSRP early on.
I'm good with upgrading for a while, until these guys get their heads out of their own asses and stop trying to put scalper priced hardware on the market as their MSRP.

[darksky]

I got the 3080FE at MSRP after using a discord alert during the mining boom. I certainly won't be paying over $1000 for any gpu. Next upgrade I'll go AMD since they are usually cheaper and offer top notch raster performance. RT is just too much of a performance hog for what it offers.

[Duke19]

Fast forward a few months:

NVIDIA & CDPR Devs Recommend A Powerful PC With RTX 50 GPUs To Run Cyberpunk 2077 Ultra Path Tracing

[FPS_D3TH]

I have a 3080… miss me with getting a power sucking 4000 series card just for better DLSS. The card has very minor benefits over higher end 3000 series cards without dlss.

Can anyone explain to me why dlss 3 cannot run on a 3080?

[Duke19]

How else would they sell 40 series cards? It’s absolutely software gated

[FPS_D3TH]

That’s exactly my feelings as well… but I’m hoping there’s an actual technical limitation.

[TheLigX]

1000%! they’ve gated off dlss 3, and this has pushed me to wait for intel to get my next card. They want to have a monopoly, plain and simple.

[jznrpg]

They want you to buy the newer more profitable card is the only reason

[BehindTheRows]

Actually, the 4090 has a similar power draw to the 3090 Ti, but with better performance of up to 50% (this is without factoring in DLSS). That's not a "very minor difference".

Now as to why DLSS 3.0 can't run on a 3080, well, NVIDIA never said it couldn't...

https://twitter.com/ctnzr/s...

However, it would run with far less efficiency, and thus, give the impression of either a laggy or buggy card, which they wanted to avoid. With new hardware comes new capabilities that require said new hardware to run properly. Has been this way since the inception of technology.

[--Onilink--]

Not saying you have to feel forced to upgrade to 4000 if you already have a 3000, but power sucking?

Every single review for the 4000 cards showed they were noticeably more power efficient than the 3000 cards running at the same specs/caps. Outside of anything else you can rightfully critique about them, they are without a doubt very power efficient

As for DLSS3 running on older hardware, if we go by their claims they dont have a good enough Optical Flow Analyzer. Again, you dont actually have to believe them, but it sounds like a perfectly feasible reason. DLSS3 already introduces some input lag on the 4000 cards, it stands to reason that on lower cards the trade off of input lag would be even higher and just not worthy.

Im still waiting to see someone get it running on older cards to see how it performs (earlier reports of it running on a 2080 were really sketchy and didnt do any measuring of input lag if it was real, which you would assume they could have done at any time since then and yet nothing more showed up, so again, I dont really buy that one)

[FGHFGHFGH]

According to the video, ada lovelace gpus introduced SER(shader execution reordering), which supposedly optimizes gpu workload.

The Nvidia site says forth gen tensor cores? allow 5x more thoughput. <- these are what handle dlss

[just_looken]

Old comment but if you get the alert just let you know few months back some smart users got dlss3 working on 30series no issues.

one article there is more out there
https://www.extremetech.com...

its been patched now but proves it can be done.

[masterfox]

awww DLSS the trick that lowers your resolution strategically so you dont realize you will not get a native image of your game, I remember how PC gaming always dissing current and past gen consoles about games being upscaled ? , PC gamers: haha your game cant run natively. But now look how lots of PC games now are recurring to this cheap trick DLSS in order to have a higher FPS count. PC cards getting ridiculuos expensive and cant run properly the newest games unless you enable DLSS , thats very sad actually, Cyberpunk doesnt even have major interaction with the world objects like for example FC2 or past GTA games, the physics in Cyberpunk are pretty minimal.

[--Onilink--]

Someone sounds awfully bitter….

[Flawlessmic]

He's not exactly lying or wrong though is he.

Pc gamers always look down upon upscaled images and yet here we are people paying thousands of dollars for cards and the big selling point is an upscaling technique.

It's kinda funny when you think about it lol

[MadLad]

Tldr

PC is better.
Get one or deal with middle of the road.

[masterfox]

well I have a i7, 48 GB DDR4 and a 3070 OC, I think I can play some games in that thing.

[Shiore2u]

@masterfox

i7 what?
"48 GB DDR4" Lmao.

You're so embarrassingly tech illiterate you can't even lie correctly.

[masterfox]

@shurro I mean Shiore

yeah Im pretty sure Im giving a mental breakdown to some PC gamers on why I have 48 GB instead of 64 GB in my rig, I think thats pretty funny.

i7 what?, I won't tell you live with the anxiety of not knowing lol :D

[Shiore2u]

@masterfox

I'm pretty sure you're projecting your own insecurities. You made yourself look stupid. Simple as.

[masterfox]

@shiore

Sure whatever you say, now go back to your herd don't wanna get lost. :D

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

And yet, the performance is still significantly better than what an Xbox/PS5 can output... It's not like consoles haven't resorted to tricks like checker boarding or dynamic resolution before.

[XxINFERNUSxX]

I assume you should still be GPU bound at 1080p with close to 100% GPU usage. Ray tracing and path tracing in future games still will tax your GPU at max, even at 1080p. DLSS 3 can help but at 1080p it will not look as sharp as using it at 1440p and up.

[Shane Kim]

Just as I started to get around ray tracing, they go ahead and release path tracing.

[TheEnigma313]

No thank you

[mastershredder]

The willingness of some people. It's not flex peeps, it's a sign of stupidity and gullibility. This is like some youtube gamer hard-selling crypto and nfts to roll his channel. Tasteless and Embarrassing.

[DarXyde]

Customer: "I'm sorry, Mr. Businessman, but I don't see myself buying a microscope from your company any time soon."

Mr. Businessman: "Okay, fair enough. At least take my business card."

Customer: "I can't read it, the text is too small."

Mr. Businessman: "BOY, DO I HAVE THE PRODUCT FOR YOU"

[Fonsecap]

Ray tracing is a very cool feature, it gives a very beautiful and realistic image and improves immersion greatly, but it's very taxing graphics wise and because of that it breaks gameplay a little because we will always loose some FPS not to mention the cost of a system that can run this feature with high resolution, so I think that this technology will have to improve so it can be used by middle range systems as well.

[Aussiesummer]

now this will be interesting, I can't wait till the 11th.

[TheLigX]

With my 3070 (bought at msrp at launch), , the most I have ever done with ray tracing is enable it for a minute just to see and then immediately disable it. Ray tracing has been pretty lame so far.

I will never spend the kind of money that nvidia is charging for the 40 series ever… ever, ever, ever, ever.