Hmm. Phil said the Xbox HDMI stick for cloud gaming was in development but they couldn't get it under a certain price point. Likely $99. I wonder if they were able to figure that out now with newer hardware. It would be a smart product to put out, especially if that mobile gaming storefront also launches on it.
@porkchop I don't know given the success of the Samsung intergration I can see smart tv apps being used as a alternative to a HDMI stick.
But realistically the quality doesn't really compete when compared to native rendering in my experience on a gigabit connection streamed to x1 and PC it's fairly heavy with artists and screen tearing I'd be buying consoles until they can improve image quality and response time in cloud streaming.
But even Xbox admit that only a small subset of users will prefer cloud streaming and it's a supplemental service
1. The successor to the Xbox Series. That would make some sense, we have a bunch of new tech reaching the consumer market at once. From faster memory to better and more efficient architectures. So starting to think about the successor does make some sense. 2. It's the mid-gen upgrade. Same reason as before, there is new tech available and I doubt manufacturers will drop the idea of a mid-gen renewal. It will be interesting to see how they do that with the Xbox Series S, though. 3. It's the streaming box. We already know that they were working on a cloud-based device and while I don't believe it makes that much sense now with TVs coming with Xbox Cloud pre-installed and the G-Cloud being more or less adopted as the "portable" Xbox. Maybe they were already too far into development to drop it.
My boy ... MS had dropped a 8 billion project along with a buy out/merger of a cellphone company in the past (Nokia). You really think they are too far into something, not to drop it!? For a 2.2 trillion company expected to reach 2.6+ in this year ... a billion is what they wipe their ass with.
Ugh. PTSD my friend. I was a major windows phone fanboy. I HATE android. Microsoft bought Nokia and all the quality windows phone handsets immediately died off because Microsoft started making the Lumia handsets instead of Nokia and it is partially what killed the platform. Then they discontinued lumia and windows phone OS. Now I use IOS.
Xbox and Playstation will still be using AMD hardware when their next consoles launch, and instead of using maybe RDNA 3 or 4, they should be pushing for something beyond that. Maybe RDNA 5 or 6 I'm sure AMD has a whole time line for their GPU tech. So that when they launch, games won't be scaled back as much when the console is a few years old.
And will this one actually have games? 😆 cloudgaming...new colors controller...new consoles...but exclusives? No we left that behind together with 360. Wake up! And please take sea of thieves, kick it far far away and let rare work on kameo 2 or new perfect dark.
WHAT?!?!?!? How dare they! This gen just got started and now they expect people to just shell out even more $$ for their next system? this reminds me of Sega and Bernie Stolar saying "Saturn is not our future" not long after the Saturn launched. It tanked the Saturn and the Dreamcast that followed and Sega never recovered to be in the console market again. Knowing this info NOW is certainly going to put a dent in any sort of market share MS was hoping to gain this gen. People are going to ignore the Series and just get a PS5 as a result. Nice job Phil & Co... you just ruined XB for me!!!
/s Yes that was being over dramatic on purpose because that is how some will react to this 'obvious' news.
Very true, consoles launched in 2020 likely began development in late 2014 or early 2015, analysis of what's working for the current platform and the limits of current hardware will also always tell Sony/Microsoft and devs what's needed for the future too, along with what AMD/NVidia or any other hardware players can provide to meet their needs for future hardware.
The coming platforms are likely pretty much the same, feedback from what came before, features and tech that couldn't go into PS5 and Series S/X, plus what devs need to make the games they want going forward that couldn't happen because of this gen's limits.
This should come as no surprise to anyone that follows console gaming news.
It's standard, they start work on the next platform probably even before they've launched the "next-gen" thing, especially with feedback and analysis, along with hardware providers selling their future tech that needs to go into the systems Microsoft and Sony will sell.
It's been outright stated by Mark Cerny and the architecture team of XBox that they're assessing what to include and improve on all of the time, but actually starting to piece together what the hardware is begins planning from a year after the launch of a new console platform. Then they iterate on what the design of everything will be until it's understood whether performance targets and features have been met and if they can out it into a financially sellable package.
No duh. New consoles usually start development 2-3 years after a console gets released
What did you expect them to start in their 5th year?
Like ps6 so is Xbox making a successor I'm not surprised tbh.
Well, it might be:
1. The successor to the Xbox Series. That would make some sense, we have a bunch of new tech reaching the consumer market at once. From faster memory to better and more efficient architectures. So starting to think about the successor does make some sense.
2. It's the mid-gen upgrade. Same reason as before, there is new tech available and I doubt manufacturers will drop the idea of a mid-gen renewal. It will be interesting to see how they do that with the Xbox Series S, though.
3. It's the streaming box. We already know that they were working on a cloud-based device and while I don't believe it makes that much sense now with TVs coming with Xbox Cloud pre-installed and the G-Cloud being more or less adopted as the "portable" Xbox. Maybe they were already too far into development to drop it.
They will have released more consoles in last 3 years than they have released games.
R and D normally starts as soon as the current console is released.