The Walking Dead PSVR2 Looks Generations Apart from Meta Quest 2

We know that PSVR2 is significantly more powerful than Meta Quest 2. The headset is not only utilising cutting-edge tech, but it’s also powered by Sony’s new-gen PS5 console, which is obviously far more advanced than Meta’s built-in mobile chipset.

Despite all that, however, the irritatingly named The Walking Dead: Saints & Sinners – Chapter 2: Retribution practically looks like a remake on PlayStation’s latest visor.

[DrDoomer]

buh... buh... it's wired!

[Bathyj]

Well now you know why

[DrDoomer]

I was mocking the people that complain that it's wired. I thought the classic "buh... buh..." would make it obvious. But not for some people, it seems.

[Bathyj]

Yeah I got it. I was agreeing with you.

[ApocalypseShadow]

It's like even the graphics are exclusive to PS VR 2. LMAO. I can see it now. "Sony's paying to keep graphics off of other platforms'... Lol.

"But but but they are just ports."

"But but but PS VR 2 only has a few exclusives"

... Looks at Grid Legends and then looks at GT7... Then looks again at Grid Legends... Lol!

Then, you got those that'll mention PC and wireless. Wireless don't make graphics better. And PC costs more. When stand alone gets its ass kicked, they run to PC. Every time.

[Bathyj]

I don't really care that a lot of these games are ports since I never played them anyway. They're new to me

Plus we're getting the best versions of them, from the graphics to the haptics to the frame rates.

[Neonridr]

I mean if you have a Quest 2, you do get that option at least. Great that you can take it with you and use it wherever you want if you are ok with the downgrade in visuals. Have a beefy PC? then you can connect it and the games look better.

I don't understand the point you are trying to make. That's literally the appeal of the Quest line of headsets.

[MrNinosan]

@Neonridr
You do know that the Quest headset itself, doesn't get better, even if it's wired, right? What you do get however, is the opportunity to play PCVR games, but still with low resolution etc

[ApocalypseShadow]

Neon, I'm just having a laugh. It's not even about graphics. I can play games with terrible graphics. As long as it's fun, who cares.

Even if it's true what I said. That "option," isn't cheap. The setup isn't seamless and plug and play using Quest 2 on PC. Every dig stand-alone gamers had against Sony's VR is coming back to bite them in the ass.

Sony's headset is better for games, better sound, better controllers, better first party studios, better back catalog of franchises to turn into VR games, better AAA third party support (as PSVR got games like Hitman and Skyrim while Quest didn't), better company for games, etc. Nothing but ass biting bro. Lol.

All we hear is how many sales Quest 2 got when there's no actual confirmed number. We hear how many games it's accumulated over time against something that just launched. If it has these sales, there's no big games on the Horizon coming out soon. Just indie games which Sony gets as well but they're all better on PS VR 2.

Just taking a certain community down a peg for being so high and might over predatory $299 pricing, wireless and PC support only because Valve allows it. More sales doesn't seem to translate to higher quality VR games. Only Quest 3 has a shot to equalize things but we'll see. It better have eye tracking and foveated rendering though.

[Neonridr]

@MrNinosan - the games absolutely do get better when it's tethered. Walking Dead tethered is the PC version of the game, not the Quest version anymore. The headset is still the headset, but the complexity of the games do in fact change. Google is your friend my man.

[Neonridr]

@ApocalypseShadow - foveated rendering isn't something new age, it's a trick to reduce load on the system. If the PSVR2 didn't have foveated rendering, the overall resolution would have taken even more of a hit because the system wouldn't be able to display all that natively.

I get it's cool and all, but let's not pretend like foveated rendering makes things look better, it's just about efficiency. Eye tracking is something completely different and that IS something to be excited about.

[MrNinosan]

@Neonridr
I don't need google as I own Quest 2, HP Reverb, HTC Vive and PSVR2, together with a 4080 PC-setup.

And if you read my reply once again, I clearly stated that Quest 2 tethered is doing PCVR, which also goes for Saints and Sinners.

However, the fact that Quest 2 has lower resolution etc, doesn't change, even thou it's tethered.

[KeeseToast]

I'm still not entirely sold on PSVR2, but this looks absolutely stunning. Having played only PSVR1 and Quest 2 so far image quality was always one of my biggest gripes.

[ABizzel1]

PSVR2 is a huge upgrade to PSVR1 in every way. The hardware and just how seamless it is, in comparison to PSVR1 is more than a generational leap. The leap between PSVR1 and PSVR2 is equivalent to entering the HD era aka like going from PS1 to PS3. A huge boost to quality in comparison from a technological standpoint.

The only thing holding PSVR2 back currently is the lack of in-store availability, the price (for some), and more importantly THE SOFTWARE. There are several great VR experiences on PC, and Sony would be wise to drop money to devs especially to Valve for Half Life Alyx and other VR support to enhance the success of the platform.

[Fearmonkey]

I have a reverb g2 on pc, its very close to that, but better on colors and black levels, a bit worse in other ways, but comparable. The thing i love about VR on ps5, it just works great and looks great, where i have to fiddle to get great performance at times on pc. Its way better than psvr 1, i hated the move controllers, the sense controllers are very nice.

[porkChop]

Yeah, obviously the PSVR2 version looks much better than the Quest 2 version. But on the Quest 2 you can still tether it to your PC and play the PCVR version. And you can do that wirelessly. How does the PCVR version compare?

[mkis007]

how much more does the pcvr version cost?

[porkChop]

Not sure. The price isn't listed yet on Steam for some reason.

[SullysCigar]

The PSVR2 version is considered the definitive version due to the haptics, triggers and screen quality, but yes, it also 'looks better' on PSVR2 than on PCVR according to sites that have tested that do far. It seems the clarity is better and it also has less pop-in compared to high end PC running ultra settings. I've seen a few comparisons, including VR Grid earlier today, all saying the same.

For me, the more important take away is that if you have Quest 2 AND PSVR2, you probably won't want to play on the Quest 2 for any number of reasons, particularly after seeing these comparisons. Watching that video in 4k 60, it's an insane difference (that gets more noticeable later in the video) and that's before you factor in comfort and controls. Even the numbers of zombies is night and day, ramping up the tension on PSVR2.

[SullysCigar]

Found a video from my watched history that talks about the differences during the review. It goes into lots of detail (17mins long) for anyone interested in PSVR2 vs PCVR vs Quest 2:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[porkChop]

" It seems the clarity is better and it also has less pop-in compared to high end PC running ultra settings."

PC has *more* pop-in? That's unusual. I wonder what happened there.

[SullysCigar]

^ Agreed, certainly unexpected. Presumably the ET/FR is considerably lessening the burden on processing. A lot of people also pointing out the colours popping and brighter whites, deeper blacks thanks to PSVR2 screens. They're getting great results, which can only be encouraging so early in it's lifecycle. You've got to think that each dev's second game will encompass considerable learning and they'll squeeze more out of the tech.

[Babadook7]

“PC has *more* pop-in? That's unusual. I wonder what happened there.“

PCVR has to run full quality lod everywhere (with foveated rendering you only load what you seen in high lod) and ps5 is an absolute beats for loading assets.

[mkis007]

Any time someone brings up pop in on pc version but not ps5 version I have to think it has to be the ssd and i/o chip.

[Fearmonkey]

the quest pc tether still doesn't look as good as a hp reverb g2, and the psvr2 is pretty comparable to the hp. Plus facecrap doesnt own it, that is a huge plus... oh and the haptics are amazing on psvr2...

[mkis007]

While im sure you understood what I was saying ill lay it out for you. 550+400 psvr2 + ps5= $950.

$400+ $1000 pc full build( on the cheap side) must have a modern gpu from the last few years.=$1400
Quest 2 + vr "worth it" pc ( worth it meaning far enough ahead of the internals of the quest 2 hardware)

There is at least $400 difference in price on the low side and that is without comparing the low specs of the quest 2 itself.

[porkChop]

I honestly didn't know that's what you meant. I thought you were asking if the PCVR version of the game costs more than the Quest version. You asked about the PCVR "version" not the PCVR setup itself. It's not a big deal, just a misunderstanding.

But yes, a decent PC plus Quest can cost more than a PS5. Realistically an $800 PC would likely be fine for PCVR, so a $1200 total cost is possible especially if you build it yourself. Regardless, yes, it does cost more.

[Viljong]

Psvr2 is amazing i though it would be half gimmick but its truly a thing from the future i keep playing it many hours a day. Games are simply amazing and the potential is almoust limitless.

[SullysCigar]

I just need eye-tracked foveated rendering in No Man's Sky for a resolution boost and, with that and GT7, I'm all set for many hundreds of hours!

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

$300 for Quest vs $1000 for PSVR2 vs $2000+ for Steam’s headset with Alyx.

Welcome to VR, it’s expensive.

[jznrpg]

With PSVR2 price you quoted you also get a PS5 which has a ton of games Quest 2 doesn’t have

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

Yeah, as you should…. You spent $700 more?

[MrNinosan]

Except, many of the ones interested in videogames and VR already have a PS5, so the cost for PSVR2, is the 500$.

[Astrokis]

$399 for quest 2 128gb* been that way for a year. I have the discless PS5 so it was $399 plus $549 for the VR2 so $950 but you also get all PS5 & PS4 games and a ton of PS1-PS3. Plus being set for 6 years easily with a PS5 its a great gaming investment!

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

I didn’t think I would get sooo many downvotes for not stressing that spending $1000 on psvr2 means you ALSO have a ps5…. You also have a gaming PC if you went with Steam’s headset?

Give it a rest fanboys… I have a psvr2, and enjoy it thoroughly.

[ocelot07]

Can't wait to play the first one on PSVR2.

[Smellsforfree]

I'll probably pick up a PSVR2 eventually, but I feel no urgency. I doubt there will be any supply issues with the hardware except maybe around Christmas this year.

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

Pavlov is great.

[z2g]

The article pretty much points to why the article is a waste of time to read in the first couple sentences.

The Quest 2 is $350 all in. It’s self contained and has the power of a mobile device from 5 years ago.

The PSVR 2 is just under $600 and that’s only for the headset. It still needs the $500 ps5 to power it (which is also sold at a loss). That means the real comparison is an $1100 vr setup to a $350 one. That’s like comparing a ps3 to a brand new 4090 gfx card and then writing an article about how the latest Call of Duty looks better on the computer…. No shit, cuz they aren’t in the same class.

[SullysCigar]

You insist on perpetuating the myth that the PSVR2 total cost is $1100 and I've pointed out several times that you're wrong. Maybe this time you'll acknowledge me? You're over-cooking by $150 lol

PSVR2 is $550 and PS5 is $400, totalling $950, which is still less than a PCVR headset. The Quest 2 was $400-$500 (depending on the model) and the Quest Pro was $1,500, but both received a price slash a week or so after PSVR2 launched, so the Quest 2 is now FAR better value than it was before. The Quest Pro is still debatable thanks to the new Vive launching.

If you have a PS5 and want VR, PSVR2 is a no brainer - you'd be mad to pick Quest 2 at this point unless it's for your kids or you want to tether to your PC. If the latter, you're better off spending the extra and getting a more comfortable PCVR headset.

The Quest 2 versus PSVR2 comparison is clear. There's a market for both, which pretty much mirrors Switch versus PS5. One is low end, but portable. The other is high end for home use only. It's that simple, it just depends what you want. Both are enjoyable.

However you cut it, PSVR2 is remarkable value for the tech and the quality gaming you get. It has the best all-round controllers and has been beating out top end PCs with headsets that cost more than a grand in the comparisons - including the game we're discussing here, which several reviewers claim is the definitive experience on PSVR2. It shouldn't be like that on paper, but it is what it is.

[masterfox]

for the past few weeks I been seeing comparisons between VR devices, PC, wireless and of course PSVR 2, the conclusion as of right now , the PSVR 2 is miles ahead from the competition, even if you have the most expensive VR headset for PC and of course expensive PC, still the PSVR 2 comes on top easily, the hassle free for setup the PSVR 2 and cost, it just can't be top by the competition atm and I think it will never be since usually the PC headsets come ridiculous expensive and not consumer friendly to get, PSVR 2 cost about 550 without taxes, still in order to get a kinda similar game experience and I mean kinda similar experience in PC, you probably need to spend like more than 2000dlls, heck Im not even counting the peripherals like keyboard, monitor, mouse, you need probably way more than a 1000 dlls to build up capable gaming rig capable for a reasonable framerates and can output high visuals to the headset.

Of course there is the PC buyer that will say PC VR is unmatched but the reality here is that he or she is willing to pay large amount of cash for that experience, and imo those are niche buyers and also not everyone have a MicroCenter near you, and no BestBuy or Walmart carries all the tech you need in order to have a high rich VR experience, can't imagine how hard would be in another countries, so whats Sony is doing with the PS5 and PSVR 2 you only need these two to have a rich PSVR 2 experience and is in reach (kinda atm) for all and I mean all consumers in general, and I think is freaking awesome what's Sony is doing and bringing new ways to play our games for everyone and not a niche demographic, when was the last time you go to a Target , Walmart for example and have the opportunity to buy a brand new GPU, CPU, RAM, CASE, PSU, MOBO, VR headset of your choice?, probably it never happened, but to buy a Plastation console or PSVR headsed , now that you can, or you will cause PSVR 2 is I think sold out atm lol.

[Neonridr]

my 3080 + Index can rival my PS VR2, don't kid yourself. I can run the headset at 144hz and run the games at the full native resolution of the headset. My PS VR2 headset is listed as being 4K. Now tell me which games run at a resolution anywhere close to that. Not to mention reprojection at 60fps to trick the headset into 120 fps, resulting in ghosting. My Index runs natively at 120-144Hz.

I get what you are trying to do here because you are one of the biggest Sony shills on this site, but let's keep a level head when discussing factual information. I actually own both, I actually use both. I feel my own experiences are a fair assessment in what you can get from both.

I love my PS VR2 headset, let me reiterate that, but having used my Index for years I can safely say that the jump wasn't some monumental one. It's great for those people who only used PSVR1 or maybe a Quest standalone headset. Less so for those of us who actually use high end computers and VR.

[mandf]

Passive aggressive trolling

[MrNinosan]

My 4080 with Index doesn't rival my PSVR2, maybe I should go back to 3080.
Except from Alyx, there is not many games I've rather play on my Index than the PSVR2 right now, for many reasons.

[Neonridr]

@MrNinosan - not sure what you are doing wrong then. With your 4080 you can run the Index at it's highest refresh rates, using super sampling and getting the full resolution of the headset across the entire display.

Color wise, the PS VR2 wins hands down, I love how colorful everything looks inside the headset. The Index unfortunately looks flat and colors are more dull.

I really do enjoy my PS VR2, the only thing I wish they stole from the Index were the hand straps. Being able to open your hands to grab something was an awesome game changer and one that I feel is sorely missed on the Sense controllers.

[Neonridr]

I mean is anyone surprised at that? One is a mobile based processor, one is a dedicated gaming machine. It's like making an article saying the PS5 version of a game looks better than the Switch version. It's a guarantee. But some people prefer the convenience of portability, which is why they are willing to sacrifice some visuals.

[Number1TailzFan]

Console fanboys will claw at anything they can. Articles rarely mention you can plug your Quest 2 into your PC directly or wirelessly as well to get a better experience, conveniently *cough* for them. Quest 3 is also not far away.

PC gets the best version of the RE 4 remake though 🤣 PS5 is decent, but PC = higher FPS, better texture quality and higher resolution if you have a 4k screen.

Some people also use their PC for things other than gaming, like video editing which also requires decent hardware. They act as if you're only gonna buy and use a PC for games, maybe some do, but not me.

[Fearmonkey]

i own a hp reverb g2 on pc and prefer the psvr2 with its haptics and comparable visuals. Thumper on pcvr for instance seems hollow compared to the psvr2 version. the sense controllers are fantastic, and the comfort on psvr2 is very good, better than the hp.
plus, facecrap doesnt make it, thats a big plus in my book.

[gold_drake]

fuck. me.

also, the headline reads like psvr2 is inferior haha. needs editing

[Solitariussaint]

PSVR2 wins! Flawless victory.