Cliff Bleszinski considered taking Gears 4 first-person pre-Microsoft acquisition

Microsoft bought the IP from Epic in 2014

[-Foxtrot]

Why? Just make a new IP

[_SilverHawk_]

The franchise is dead because of the lack of growth. I cant believe how popular this franchise was only to be seen as mediocre to rubbish now just like halo.

[porkChop]

I seem to remember Gears 5 being well received. Gears isn't being talked about these days because there's no new game, not because people don't care or it isn't popular enough.

[rgraf77]

actually, its not dead.

[Lore]

Yes Gears 4 was literally a linear corridor shooter. Don’t know how it received so much praise

[MadLad]

Despite the issues had with Halo Infinite's multiplayer, both games were very well received.

People really like to exaggerate and create their own narrative.

[EvertonFC]

I think a fair few halo/gears gamers moved back over to PS4 and add to that alot of hardcore halo and gears fans are probably in there late 30/40s now with families etc.
Also those Xbox fans are probably more into f2p games like Fortnite, apex, Minecraft etc now.
Add on top of that the series being stale or going in the wrong direction didn't help either.
Add all that together and that's why we see less interest in those titles imo.

[gangsta_red]

Gears 5 is excellent and received rave reviews. The DLC Hivebusters is one of the most gorgeous looking games on Xbox Series X.

Stop with the cap.

[Profchaos]

Gears 1 was so unlike anything else when I played it after picking up a 360 in 2006 there was other cover shooters but none that worked as well as this I beat the game in the first few days and spent so much time online looking up leaked info for a sequel I was a huge fan then we finally got 2 and it was great but there was signs that the franchise wasn't really innovative and although it could tell a good story by the time 3 hit it was showing cracks in the formula not it's own fault but it was a victim of its own success.

That era had so many years clones and so many ue3 games that everything started looking the same every ue3 game looked like gears and that made gears feel done to death along with the cod revitalisation and gta iv, halo reach, GTA v trailer graphics leap ue3 felt old compared to every other engine.

Had it not spawned countless clones I think it would still be huge and 5 proved it's still got some life to it. But 4 and judgement just sucked

[Crows90]

They're not rubbish just not great games like what we expect from 1st party at Sony.
You could miss out on either and them and it wouldn't be a loss.

[GotGame818]

Gears 5 has a user score of 82 on metacritic. It looks and runs fantastic, on PC and Series X after current gen updates. Why would you say it's dead, when the latest Gears game is absolutely a great game? I am guessing with your comments, you haven't played it. If you have, it probably wasn't long.

I find it funny. People comment on games, when they haven't even played them, and trash them anyway.

Forspoken has a much lower score on Metacritic than Gears 5, and you praise Forspoken.

I was going to pick Forspoken up on Steam. Since most players trash it, I'll wait for a sale.

[cthulhucultist]

@_SilverHawk_ The fact that your are being upvoted, shows how bad this site has been infested with fanboys.

I am pretty sure you hyped ps games that scored lower than Gears of War 5 just because they are Sony games.

No need for that. Enjoy the games regardless of platform and who knows. You might actually have some fun in the end.

[gangsta_red]

Like Lawbreakers

[-Foxtrot]

The issue he tried to jump on a trend by making a shitty Overwatch clone

[porkChop]

Having played both I actually preferred Lawbreakers. It's a shame it failed. Same with Radical Heights. It was super early in dev but it was so much more fun than PUBG and Fortnite. Boss Key had great ideas but poor timing and terrible luck.

[gangsta_red]

@fox

"The issue he tried to jump on a trend..."

What isn't a trend these days?

[ModsDoBetter]

I’m still salty I bought that game at launch and it died very quickly.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

@Gangsta_red
I was actually thinking of Radical Heights when I read yours/Foxtrot's comments, but I wasn't sure if Cliff Bleszinski actually did that game (I do remember it flopping spectacularly before I even got to play it).

[gangsta_red]

@Fanatic and Porkchop

I totally forgot about Radical Heights!

Yeah, that was one that came and flopped fast

[Profchaos]

I guess he kind of did in the end just not a memorable one

[Sonic1881]

The franchise was good back in the early 2000s but it's stale now. I hope they move on from it.

[SonyStyled]

The first Gears released November of 2006 my dude. It had an Epic trailer with the song Madworld. The PS3 and Wii launched the same month. It was an exciting holiday season I’ll never forget.

Maybe you’re confusing Gears with Unreal Tournament?

[Sonic1881]

I played the first 3 gears. It started to get stale after that IMO

[z2g]

That’s about 100x more difficult, risky and expensive. just ask Forspoken.

[SpacedDuck]

Yeah, new IP'S have worked out well for Cliffy.

[BandarHub]

Then it would pretty much be Doom 2016.

[Profchaos]

A 30 fps ue3 first person shooter would be more blacksite area 51 than doom

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Interesting tbh

[shinoff2183]

It still would have sold imo

[anast]

Yeah, instead of doing the work, let's just change the perspective and charge "$200" for the mega edition. These guys are losers even though they make a ton of money. Yes, it's possible.

[zero_jp]

It’s sad what happen to Gears under Microsoft’s stewardship. Halo is in an even worse state.

The fact of the matter is they've been set on keeping the games exactly as they were back in the early 2000’s.

Gears should be terrifying at this point like Dead Space. Real scary enemies. Real threats. Yet it’s still the same old ish.

Halo with the voice lines being all jokey by enemies. It’s time to grow up. Yet they refuse to evolve and grow either franchise.

Same tired stale ideas. Microsoft simply caters to the streamers and pro players at this point. They’ll never learn their lesson regardless of how much those franchises fail.

Cliffs B should have obscene amounts of money thrown his way to restore Gears to greatness. Unfortunately that’s never going to happen.

Therefor the epic fails under Microsoft will continue. Bungie for all of their issues with Destiny was smart enough to abandon ship and run far far away from them.

[BandarHub]

It's hilarious what you say because this is the complete opposite of what fans what.
Scary as Dead Space.... What a joke

[PhillyDillyDee]

So how would the cover system work? Leaning?

[chicken_in_the_corn]

Similar to Killzone 2 I imagine

[z2g]

Hmmm. Kinda glad that didn’t happen.

[Knightofelemia]

The game was always better as 3rd person. I love Gears 1 and 2 but after Epic sold the Gears franchise to Microsoft the franchise just feels meh at most now. Like Halo the franchise is not something I want to buy anymore on day one. Gears 3 was ok felt rushed Judgement was meh. Gears 4 and 5 I couldn't finished because I was bored of it. And FPS Gears game you may as well just come up with a new IP instead of beating the same dead horse.