Wccftech talked to MIDiA Research senior analyst Karol Severin to get his take on the Microsoft/Nintendo Call of Duty deal and other recent news concerning the two platform holders.
Of course is win win... for Microsoft. They take away a sales monster from its main competitor to put it on their subscription model which was made because of their low sales situation.
This is a big win for Microsoft and a big fail for the gaming industry. We will witness the fall of COD as we did with Xbox own franchise Halo.
Seems like you need some tissues. So more players get to play call of duty on Nintendo and pc owners have more options and it still gets to stay on PlayStation. Yet it’s being taken away the mentality of a little kid amazes me sometimes.
At all of you above if people play call of duty mobile what makes you think people won’t play it on the switch?? It’s insanely popular on mobile I’ve tried and it’s actually really fun. Yes the switch can run it as well.
@CPTN MITCHELL They've shoved other games like Doom and Witcher Wild Hunt on their, even though they had to noticeably downgrade those games to get them to run acceptably.
"I couldn't of said it any better! Since when are more options a bad thing?"
More options of where to play would be pretty fantastic actually. Like I don't know like say Bethesda games maybe? Oh right those aren't available to Nintendo or Playstation games any more.
Thought Microsoft thought 150 million gamers would be a good idea? Then by that logic shouldn't like 270 million Switch/PS4/PS5 gamers also be a big deal? Especially if they're trying to suggest Sony is preventing so many gamers from gaming on Nintendo etc?! Kind hypocritical now right?
This is a big win for gamers as they will have the option to choose where they want to play COD. Whether it's Gamepass, Cloud on mobile, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation and PC. COD will be even more accessible than ever and it doesn't change how you normally play COD.
The most notable on here is COD on the cloud. Without a doubt, the latency and quality will improve over time. That means 3 Billion mobile gamers will have access to play COD on their phone. Imagine a fraction of 3 billion subbing to gamepass to play COD on their phone. These are you non-console gamers and when they hear that console version COD is playable on game pass cloud service, they're going to sub straight away. You can see how big this deal is for gamepass. Let's say that incrementally over Years MS markets COD for mobile, as well as the cloud service, drastically improves over time. They will start off slow but this is what it might be 1% of 3 Billion= 30 Million 5% of 3 Billion= 150 Million 10% of 3 Billion= 300 Million If you add the growing gamepass members you can see that number piling up. Also when it lands on Nintendo console it will be adding those players as well. After this deal and after they put COD and other Activision games on gamepass you can see that they will be making a killing off gamepass.
Lets range between 60 Million and 300 Million Subscribers in the long Run. They could be making £7.2 Billion to £36 Billion a year fro Gamepass
With these growing numbers and how much the game pass, you can easily see that the Billions they are paying for Activion/Billzard is worth it.
Pretty much. It's only not a win-win if you're Sony. Mostly everyone else is fine with it at this point - and more gamers than ever will have access to COD.
I agree with you 💯 but like I said months ago COD isn't the same how it use to be so this might be the beginning of a downfall for COD especially since Sony install base will be eliminated 😄
"COD isn't the same how it use to be so this might be the beginning of a downfall"
In what way? None of the data backs that up.
MW2: - Best selling game of 2022 - Fastest selling COD game ever - Passed $1bn revenue in 10 days, $800m in the first 72 hours - Most played game on PlayStation and Xbox
It'll be a huge disservice to PS gamers if they have the option to keep COD on PS and decide not to do so.
Realistically, those people will just jump to PC or Xbox/Switch if that happens. COD is a guaranteed buy every year for millions of people - so it won't be that big of a deal for COD sales. If anything, it'll hurt Sony more than COD, Sony makes a LOT of money from COD sales and microtransactions.
It would be kind of ironic if after months of shouting about how Microsoft is removing COD from PS, it is ultimately Sony who removes it from PS.
Is it? . If Cod isn't on Sony machines they think the switch will cover that marketshare... Or mobile or cloud... So out of touch. The main target of the switch isnt Cod. Just look at the sales of the mature Bayonetta and then compare it the other hits of Nintendo last year like pokemon! .... It's night and day. Cod will gradually become irrelevant like halo is. Microsoft couldn't even make halo a hit after spending 500 or 600 millions in their flagship title....
You can play the game where you want. Not where Microsoft wants. this Nintendo and Nvidia and cloud its just the strategy that Microsoft lawyers are using to get the deal approved....
No that's definitely a lie. If they wanted their games everywhere then explain why Bethesda's games are no longer going to be gracing Nintendo and Playstation systems?!
Kind of funny MS suggest this deal if it doesn't go through affects 150 million gamers yet they're perfectly fine ignoring 270 million games between the PS4/PS5/Switch.
Ms is an embarrassment, they can't compete by making there own games, they been on 3rd place for the last 20+ years and even fronting about teraflops can't get them out of 3rd place and here they're trying to buy cod because they can't compete with playstation. Xbox sucks always has always will
The GameCube was in 3rd place while the original xbox stayed in 2nd place. Okay the Xbox 360 and Xbox One were both in 3rd place but...what Place was the Nintendo Wiiu in? That's the question! If the last two Xbox consoles were in 3rd place than what place was the WIIU in??? Answer that
you do realize sony brought Naughty Dog and Insomaic and Gurellia Games and Sucker Punch in fact just google sony acquisition and you see something you probably wouldnt like. The only studio sony built from the ground up is Santa Monica and PD studio everything else they brought.
@Sonyslave3 All those studios made 95% of their games exclusively on Playstation already. Nothing was taken from the competitor. Yet you're a Xbox fanboy, you can't see clearly, you think that is the same as Microsoft buying an entire publisher which main fanbase is Sony (it's where they make the most money by far).
All those developers you named made like 1-2 games at most that were on other consoles out of 10-20 games each. I dare you to name them without looking them up, I bet you can't, I know I can't except for Insomniac. They made Sunset Overdrive, which flopped badly and Fuse, which was a multiplatform game. It flopped so hard that I don't think anyone can remember what it was.
Cool remind us which Guerrilla, Suckerpunch, Naughty Dog games did Xbox gamers miss out on? Cause last I checked they weren't making anything for Xbox. Whereas Hellblade 2? Outerworlds 2? For example won't be on Nintendo or Playstation systems will they?
Plus if Microsoft/Xbox like they claim are so worried for the 150 million games they claim will miss out then why are they blocking 270 million gamers on PS4/PS5/Switch that won't be playing Bethesda games any more?!
sony lived on 3rd party exclusivity since PS1 and bought many studios and 3rd party exclusives along the way to get to the throne.....fans dont want to admit it but sony bought their way up but i still admit they know how to menage their studios which as an xbox player think is xbox division need to learn ...xbox need to adapt to gaming market ignoring MS policies of creating a MS owned engine to build games...making a team that audi quality around studios and keep them focused, get studios into pace...microsoft needs to improve to get the best out of there studios...i do beleive that phil was perfect in reviving xbox but i think his not the best for the next step...now xbox division need an aggressive CeO thats compititive and can control those studios with an iron hand
I can't believe the fools on this page that are celebrating the fact call.of duty basically has to be made to run on a mobile phone how just because they think it will pressure Sony into closing the deal.
Sorry sighted idiots. You want a hamstring call.of duty to line Microsoft's pockets
It shows Ms has little to no business acumen when it comes to gaming. Switch gamers are a whole different type of gamer. Do you think Cod will sell more then the likes of pokemon or animal crossing on switch?
Compromises will have to be made to cater for the switch. This may be the beggining of the end for Cod imo...
Did I mention Sony? My comment was about the quality of Call of Duty and how Xbox gamers seem happy to see it suffer just to get this W. I mean happy to see you a game you already had get worse just so you can control it, what's that about?
And have I considered the possibility of Nintendo release in a console that competes with the other two on a power basis?
No I have not considered that because it will never happen. New to gaming are you?
@bigfish Oh don't you worry Microsoft has huge plans for Call of Duty on Nintendo HW including Nintendo Switch... introducing Call of Duty: Paint Party Plus!
Xbox offered parity contract in contents and release date... But sony doesn't want that... They want marketing deal exclusive contents and of course cod not coming to gamepass day 1... You can defend sony as much as you want rhis is the truth and rayan will keep on cryinf
@onisama "Some poeple think sony cares for players... No no company does i just hope that we get the best competitiveness and deals + quality"
tl;dr: PS cares, they really don't have a choice. MS couldn't care less and this is abundantly clear.
If PS didn't care it would be coasting on a couple stalwarts like GT like Nintendo does relying on Pokémon. Or they could be floundering trying to keep pace with features while falling woefully short with games!
Thing is, PS needs to do well financially and if the PS team doesn't care about what their players want, they lose money and their company goes away. Microsoft has so much more money in their coffers than Nintendo & Sony combined, but they have yet to turn it in to profits and they don't need to.
MS always has a uphill battle, but why aren't they making good games with all their money after 20 years? I'll tell you why. MS jumped into the market to dethrone PS as a brand. MS' own Bill Gates saw Sony's move into the living room with PS as a threat to their business of becoming the one-world computer authority. Microsoft's answer to PS was Xbox and it was only ever made as a shameless clone of PS, whatever PS did Xbox had to do better, they got lucky stumbling on Halo which was a genuine success for a while, but when the franchise fell apart... they just moved to aquire new studios.
Of course is win win... for Microsoft. They take away a sales monster from its main competitor to put it on their subscription model which was made because of their low sales situation.
This is a big win for Microsoft and a big fail for the gaming industry. We will witness the fall of COD as we did with Xbox own franchise Halo.
This is a big win for gamers as they will have the option to choose where they want to play COD.
Whether it's Gamepass, Cloud on mobile, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation and PC.
COD will be even more accessible than ever and it doesn't change how you normally play COD.
The most notable on here is COD on the cloud. Without a doubt, the latency and quality will improve over time.
That means 3 Billion mobile gamers will have access to play COD on their phone.
Imagine a fraction of 3 billion subbing to gamepass to play COD on their phone. These are you non-console gamers and when they hear that console version COD is playable on game pass cloud service, they're going to sub straight away.
You can see how big this deal is for gamepass.
Let's say that incrementally over Years MS markets COD for mobile, as well as the cloud service, drastically improves over time.
They will start off slow but this is what it might be
1% of 3 Billion= 30 Million
5% of 3 Billion= 150 Million
10% of 3 Billion= 300 Million
If you add the growing gamepass members you can see that number piling up. Also when it lands on Nintendo console it will be adding those players as well.
After this deal and after they put COD and other Activision games on gamepass you can see that they will be making a killing off gamepass.
Lets range between 60 Million and 300 Million Subscribers in the long Run.
They could be making £7.2 Billion to £36 Billion a year fro Gamepass
With these growing numbers and how much the game pass, you can easily see that the Billions they are paying for Activion/Billzard is worth it.
Pretty much. It's only not a win-win if you're Sony. Mostly everyone else is fine with it at this point - and more gamers than ever will have access to COD.
It's a win-win for Microsoft not for others.
Ms is an embarrassment, they can't compete by making there own games, they been on 3rd place for the last 20+ years and even fronting about teraflops can't get them out of 3rd place and here they're trying to buy cod because they can't compete with playstation. Xbox sucks always has always will