Oooh God. You went there. There's nothing I can do for you now. They're gonna take you apart for being racist, because you're only allowed to acknowledge annoying white characters.
If she was white, she'd still be annoying, because guess what? It's actually not about colour!
Forspoken looks amazing and has an interesting character with an interesting story and I can't wait to buy it. The demo was amazing which makes the waiting for release more unbearable. Definitely a day one purchase for me. I'm really just hoping for a game that can perform well on day one without much issues because I see some game reviewers like to ignore glaring negative issues that affects gameplay performance.
im not sure what's different about this game to garner massive amounts of negative opinions around it where normally most gamers wouldn't waste time voicing negativity on something that doesnt interest them but would rather talk more about what interests them. The game seems amazing to me and the demo released played well and performed well which I'm glad about because I remember seeing earlier previews where the performance looked dodgy.
^ righto, "killer", you might wanna check recent discussions on the subject.
Basically, if you don't like Frey's personality, you must have a problem with her skin, or so say the mob you brought up.
I get that you disagree - so do I - but it's right here on N4G. You can easily see this for yourself, if you care to look rather than taking the lazy option and just accusing me of lying.
The person that replied directly before you is saying EXACTLY what you claim "nobody is saying".
@Sullys No one has to look because ur quite literally the one who brought it up, even going as far as accusing Vengeance in some way as if they’re the one who said it.
No one denying that this isn’t an issue out there, but the fact that you inferred it’s what Vengeance was meaning when they literally are saying the character is just annoying, says more about you.
The person that replied before Killer was direct reaction to your comment that had nothing to Do with what Vengeance even said
^ lol Nitrowolf2, how the hell are you missing the sarcasm in my insinuating Vengeance1138's comment had racist connotations? I'm pointing out the absurdity of the suggestion. He understood me and so did dozens of others.
Check out this top story about Forspoken and how the comments section is littered with people making claims like people saying it's "woke" is some kind of racist code. Then look how many people silently agreed with such ridiculous claims. That's absurd and that was my point.
I don't see "most" saying she's fine. You can't just say "most" this and that ya know. It actually needs to be real observation and not just an extension of what you believe.
TLoU complaints were that people still wanted to play Joel, and the story they didn't want to accept. Not because of female hate. Returnal and Horzion have examples of modern day well written characters that just happen to be female. No focus on being different for sake of being different and no cringy writing to go with it.
I’ve not looked at much videos of the game, but it does look interesting to me. Plus I love the flair, particles, and spectacle of magic in SquareEnix games.
I will see how it reviews and pick it up at a discounted price. I also pre ordered Crisis Core and will check that out when it goes live, great price so I jumped.
So they decided to make new mistakes. Got it. One of the games i was really looking forward to get, now it became a "i'll get it when it's around $20 or so". And not even sure i'm going to buy it. And the main character with the talking thing on her arms are hateful, never heard so stupid dialogues...
P.S. all of this is from my experience with the demo, the final product can be a lot better. The effects and those things are great but... that's all about it. It has a lot of potential, it's true but for now i wouldn't give more than 5 on 10. And because i'm a good person :P
Clearly one of those things wasn’t an awe inspiring living world. If you compare Forbidden West to what’s been shown of Forespoken, it’s like they forgot to actually care about the world itself. It feels so generic and soulless.
Is it? Does it have a physics system and attention to detail even comparable with BoTW? Was the world specifically designed to be explored in the same way BoTW world was? I'm asking because I don't have a PS5 and obviously didn't play the demo.
I think they didn't learn anything then. The devs say they focused on parkour which is fine but they also avoided adding npcs to run into which is a huge mistake. Only one big city will be boring really quick. Don't get me wrong though I'm buying the game because the combat is good and so is the premise but they don't really have the influences they're saying they do. It feels like they mentioned whatever open world games were popular at the time regardless if their game is like it
I really liked the spell effects. But the visuals are so weird, everything looks fuzzy and pixelated.. I think it's that engine they are using, FF15 had that same slightly janky feel to it.
Also as others have said.. The dialog is rough. It feels like a bunch of writers in their 40s were trying to figure out 'what the kids these days say' it just feels so tonally disconnected to the situation. I really want to support a game like this, I think the actress herself is doing fine, but she's strapped with a terrible script and there's no getting around that.
Absolutely amazing how now everyone is into dialogue as defining a characters quality. Main character says “fuck” and it’s cringe. Bayonetta was the most cringey lines with the worst choreography and even crappier on rails game play, design and performance y’all give it 10s and say “so fresh! So new!”
You get a brand new world with a character they are aiming to give growth and depth to. Not over sexualize her, give her character defining traits that sets her apart from the status quo. Has new gameplay style that’s unlike anything else because let’s be honest…. Playing as a mage is not a standard in gaming ESPECIALLY a parkour mage. And y’all screaming generic? Bland? Lifeless?
Y’all couldn’t be more full of it. Dante has the CHEESIEST dialogue in devil may cry it’s “hardcore”. The dude literally yells “crack shot!” “Bingo” in his combos and that’s normal huh?
Ghost of Tsushima has you travel an empty empty world repeating trivial tasks. But it’s beautiful because you can follow a bird or fox to a secret? Because you might run into a bear sometimes? Or maybe because you can sit in a hot spring? Don’t mind the Uber pointless horse back riding after 20+ hours. But yeah… these are flawless games and this game is trash because “I didn’t like a trailers dialogue” y’all been so full of sh*t it’s insane.
Yes dialogues is a thing. Bayonetta tone is very different, guess what? Just look up with what Kojima does on his games and you have better example than obvious Bayonetta yet again it is because "context".
Sexualize or not she is terrible. Alloy is a fairly very new character and very young and not pretty nor sexualized and in the wild and yet she was presented far better NOT FOR HER COLOUR, BUT BECAUSE THERE ARE BETTER WRITERS AND DEVELOPERS BEHIND HER APPEARANCE!!! and the world settings presented better and prettier although, it is just a PS4 game.
This game using Final Fantasy XV engine and assets and even animations looks similar, so not that new tbh. New gameplay style? really? Playing as a mage is not standard!!! really? you don't play JRPGs? or RPGs? This so called parkour of yours barely can scratch Dying light, Assassin Creed and Infamous Second Son. Even though Second Son wasn't that interesting, but it played tons better and steadier than this and even most importantly felt responsive!!!!
Dante!!! like really again??? you seems don't understand how developers represent their humour through an adult and old characters right? Dante, Bayonetta, Cid, Sneak, Barret, Yakuza characters does all have that unique traits to make a smile on your face, at least once you get it. But they don't do it all the time, some does occasionally, some rarely. Again because of context. This one here is just annoying and cheesy and cringe all the time like a very bad Hollywood movie.
Ghost of Tsushima flow better than your "unique parkour magic" thing, and it emptiness filled with good art, atmosphere, creatures and visuals. This game have non of that.
Listen if you like this game, good for you, but if you like X game doesn't make X game a great one. Maybe you don't see the problem and you are not really getting the idea. That's fine but again not great game at all. People can say the same things about MGS4, The Witcher 3, GOW, Elden Ring, FFVII Remake, FFVI, but these are masterpieces and had a lot of pros that can makes cons be overlooked easily, because there are much great things to do and witness that keeps you busy to notice the flaws.
I’m going to summarize why everything you said is bullshit about this game. A. It’s not even out and your claim the world has no atmosphere, creatures, or visuals is straight horse shit… you can look at any old Witcher trailer, metal gear etc. and without the fawning over the character NOTHING SCREAMS THE GAMEPLAY.
Metal gear solid 2 and 3 trailers initially were cg with nothing to do with final product. Starfield is all screenshots and a piss poor teaser trailer and people scream “new” innovative! Your willingness to use “fan favorites” to drive a point actually proves more how bias exist.
Alloy is not an engaging character, the world she’s in IS engaging, but her as a character not at all. She’s a clone outcast with a savior complex in the second and that’s character development to you? I’ve spent 30 hours in that game just trying to get anywhere that’s of importance at a snails pace.
B.you have NO idea what this character offers or where her struggle is going other than she’s a displaced young adult in a fantasy world. What other context could you want? You won’t get it until you guess what? PLAY THE GAME! Not even the demo can give it all away because it’s a DEMO.
C. Did you really just compare an action RPG mage to JRPG turn based mages? Like are you serious? The closest thing this game is to is infamous and the difference is SETTINGS and PLOT. One world is super humans, the other is MAGIC! You also have no idea how much her parkour evolves like you don’t know in infamous, second son you start with basic traversal it evolved to fast running, flight from point to point and vent hopping.
You know how you get those abilities? YOU PLAY THE GAME, something NONE of you have done. You’ve just made bullshit excuses about the dialogue in an era where you get language options and now you crying it’s unbearable? Fuck outta here, you don’t know her advancements, struggle or improvements. But scream it’s unbearable from 2 minutes.
Bayonetta is unbearable, but people love it so I leave it the hell alone. The Witcher franchise is the most boring games I’ve played but I leave it alone when others talk about it. Elder scrolls are the most overrated piss poor preforming franchises I’ve ever played but I leave it alone because others still enjoy it.
The crusade to shit in this game since its reveal over dialogue is absolutely bullshit. And talking about the world that NONE of you have truly experienced is also full of shit because it’s a DEMO!
How about what character creation mistakes to avoid? Most complaints on the game are that the protagonist is unbearable when she opens her mouth.
learning from the Pros :D
I’ve not looked at much videos of the game, but it does look interesting to me. Plus I love the flair, particles, and spectacle of magic in SquareEnix games.
I will see how it reviews and pick it up at a discounted price. I also pre ordered Crisis Core and will check that out when it goes live, great price so I jumped.
So they decided to make new mistakes. Got it.
One of the games i was really looking forward to get, now it became a "i'll get it when it's around $20 or so". And not even sure i'm going to buy it.
And the main character with the talking thing on her arms are hateful, never heard so stupid dialogues...
P.S. all of this is from my experience with the demo, the final product can be a lot better. The effects and those things are great but... that's all about it. It has a lot of potential, it's true but for now i wouldn't give more than 5 on 10. And because i'm a good person :P
Clearly one of those things wasn’t an awe inspiring living world. If you compare Forbidden West to what’s been shown of Forespoken, it’s like they forgot to actually care about the world itself. It feels so generic and soulless.