Warzone 2 is here to keep all the FPS fanatics entertained – but there's another, lesser-enjoyed game coming back around. But is it worth it?
That's what gamepass does. Nurtures mediocrity.
I don’t mean to ruin your narrative or anything, but it’s not “Gamepass” that’s doing anything. If you subscribe to Gamepass you also get EA Play in the subscription. So, not only do you get access to all the games on Gamepass, but you also get access to EA’s vault through EA Play, which you can also buy a subscription on PlayStation and PC… So, yea, you get EA Play for free on Gamepass and Battlefield 2042 is being put on EA Play.
Lol You clearly don’t have game pass there are so many great games available for it.
Weird, because I'm constantly playing great games via gamepass.
@madlad Crazy, I'm doing the same thing.
Because A Plagues Tale: Requiem Pentiment, As Dusk Falls, Insurgence Sand Storm, Grounded and ton more are bad games.... Upcoming High On life, Lies Of P, Wo Long. Are still to come. Even Monster Hunter Rise was leaked and releasing in early 2023 day one on gamepass. That's a biiig one. I'm just gonna mark you for inappropriate for crap posting, I know you can't help it but you need to control yourself.
I’ve been addicted to Grounded I’ve been playing it non stop , I use to just skip past it but decided to finally give it a try. Haven’t been disappointed since
Do you not mean ea access?
Unfortunately for BF 2042, there are too many great titles to compete with on game-pass. Good luck.
I think most people won't waste their time even if it costs nothing to try it
So ppl arent getting the same "second chance" on playstation or pc with eaplay?
Dude, these GP subs are starting to sound like a cult. If you hear, "I'm just going to wait until it hit GP" you'll know you're amongst their ranks. Beware....
well not everyone can afford buying games on lunch and even or sale
That may be true but GP isn't the way; working harder and managing money more affectively is.
well hate to tell ya Onisama gaming is a luxury. If it's too expensive then you should probably be spending your money elsewhere. Also I call bullshit on the "sale" bit if you're anything but a Nintendo fan. What you're actually telling us YOU can't wait till the games get cheap enough to afford them. @Surgical - what's even worse most of the current GP library is absolute garbage. I've had IndiePass for the last year, there's barely anything worthwhile to play...The hypocrisy of championing walking sims, interactive movies, pixel art, and 2D side scrollers they used to sneer at when on PS is pure gold. What I wonder is if there's a special handshake and a secret decoder ring coming in the mail. I didn't get mine.
Gamepass costs $15 per month if I don't get it at a discount in Australia a new game costs between 68 to 120 dollars let's call it 90. So realistically I could buy 2 new games and a few on sale for the same price and as someone who has a ultimate sub I often don't touch it play suprisingly little from the catalogue to the point where I won't renew it I've only played about 2 games this whole year from gamepass withost of my games being new buys
Bruh, the look they give you once they find out your pay full price for games is hilariously entertaining. "Enjoy paying full price" they'll say and I'll walk away with a new experience while they'll continue trying to champion the importance of BC. "You know, instead of being bothered to play new games on your next gen system you'd have a better time revisiting all the old games you played before this one on the new one." "Look at how much better these old games run on the new system" All of it sounds just as crazy when you say it out loud. Phil Spencer is the Jim Jones or Mason of gaming, leading his followers down a path of delusional self-destructive.
You sound nuts guy.
@CBaoth No. Gaming is not a luxury. Gaming is super cheap. Just dont buy on release. Patience helps here. @SurgicalMenace Working hard and managing money more affectively doesnt work if you dont make more money. Thousands of companies expect you to go over and above the job description but wont compensate you more...and when they do they may just give you a $1 raise. Not saying not to work hard but its better to look for a company with leadership that appreciates you more. And no its no cult to wait for it on GP...especially when it comes to xbox 1st party. No point in purchasing those.
Menaging money.... You know that a single game with a lrice tag of 60$ can cover your food for 10 days... And most of african salaries start at100$.... In my country is around 300$... So that 60$ is so much lets not talk about the 70$..... The way gamers go in Africa is pirating games and thats 0$ for devs and publishers... GP give our African gaming community the option to pay the devs by sub to gamepass and gived us the option to play legally Like it or not... I know this is a PS community and most are getting paid by dollars and euros but its not the case for half of the planet so yeah i love GP and i think its the best thing happened to gamers for a long time
@cboath ....15$....nah i get it for 60$ a year thats less than 5$ a month and i can share with a friend Gaming is a luxury but your not the one to tell me not to support GP or i should give up my hobbies because i can't buy a game of 70$... GP is for perfect for people like me and i pay for the sub a ps fanboy that recist and sick to the core can't take that right from me
@onisama - how do you only pay $60/year for gamepass?
"SurgicalMenace That may be true but GP isn't the way; working harder and managing money more affectively is" What kinda logic is this? Game pass isn't the way because you most likely don't have an Xbox? Work harder and manage your money better to buy games for full price instead of paying a cheaper monthly sub?
I agree with crow90 to an extent. Only issue that I have is from what I see in my personal life. No one I know that has gamepass except myself. Anyway not one of them actually buy games and only experience whats on gamepass. Its kind of annoying to the sense that yo there are way better games out there. Im not saying everything on gamepass is trash because i do enjoy some xbox exclusives(still like sonys offerings more) but there are good aaa and indie games out there that get ignored because its not on gamepass. I did convince one of these guys to get xcom 2 collection and theyve been enjoying the hell out of it. It helps it was 10 bucks though. Even the articles for xbox i see that are new games it seems most of the attention is to the new ones on gamepass. I didnt say all but I be on here about everyday I see it. To the point though yea just wait, I dont buy games any longer at day one, unless I feel it will be hard to get in the future. I bought the new legend of heroes game because those arent huge releases just stuff like that. To onisamas point if gamers cant afford to buy games at lunch which i understand completely. The not being able to afford them on sale part though. WTF did these same people do before gamepass or psnow , watch paint dry.
I guess unless you're farming those bing points or have some special temporary deal, the standard rate for GP is $15/month, or $180 a year. That's not cheap. Are you even getting 3 $60 games a year that you would have bought new for that? If I was strapped for $, I'd look to free games from Epic and super cheap Humble Bundles on a low-end PC, not commit to monthly payments for games.
I, in fact, do own a Series X but I own well over 10k games so there's little value in services for myself. Furthermore, I will always be an advocate of full retail as that's what fuels any industry most affectively. Sustainability can never be had with the convenience of the consumer in mind. We all get what we are willing to pay for, sometimes that means that there will be instances that we're not able to partake in. Everything is not accessible to everyone and that's why there are markets that each company focuses on. Porsche, Ferrari, Bentley, or the like cater to a class of people who are able to purchase the level of quality their contributions aim to deliver. Some marvel at the beauty in their enginuity while others are able to experience it first hand. This concept is no different when traversing across the boundaries of other markets. We just seem to be in a place where individuals believe that they're entitled to engage just because they want to, unfortunately, that's not hinged on reality. If I can't afford something I venture into the reality that I have to either work harder, save my money, or forgo the experience. This is the way that life goes and I am cool with it as everything is not meant for everyone nor myself. GP will not create the level of profitability needed for a company to flourish, only the an ability for consumers to engage. This ideology contends greatly against any sustainable business practice so I will always be against it. As a salute to Sony, Nintendo, or MS I will always be willing to pay for their fruitful contributions to the wellbeing of the industry by paying what they ask of me. There is a stark contrast between GP and services like Netflix. This being that most content on the later goes from the theater, Blu Ray, and DVD before it hits the service allowing it to maximize its earning potential before being assimilate into a collective. With the abysmal sales numbers associated with the XB community, the very inception of GP shows a desperation from MS that can't be ignored. There's a foreboding fear that their community of supporters will make a grand exodus after realizing the apparent negligence of innovation displayed by MS. Promises not delivered upon is the formula for abandonment, hence the hasty attempt to throw money at the issue they've ignored for generations. I will not subscribe to instruments of the pretentious while seeing the fruit through dedication exercised by both Sony and Nintendo. MS doesn't get a pass all because they promise to do better next time. My wallet is paused towards them until they SHOW me an effort towards changed behaviors. They are well aware of just how selfcentered most gamers are so they're playing into the psychological benefits of it by sending in a Trojan horse filled with gifts infused with toxicity. Not my cup of tea. To each their own.
@Surgical Please explain to me why paying a sub like Gamepass isn't the way to save money and that I should instead work harder and manage my money more effectively. Also, I find you're championing for BC rant quite entertaining especially when you are praising GOW on PS5. Care to explain what new experiences you found on PS5 versus PS4 that warranted an extra 10$ Or what was so different compared to playing the 2108 version on PS5? On what basis do you make your claims that "full retail is what fuels any industry most affectively."? Last I checked I have yet to read about a company not getting paid, lost of money because of second-hand sales, and piracy with subs like Gamepass.
Very simple business antidote: If you had a business would you be able to grow while only selling products at a discount or a reduced price? Full price allows for maximum margin potential. Very basic understanding of business. I gather you've never operated your own?🤷🏾♂️ Why would you have to read about the affects of low impact sales? Layoffs, downsizing, consolidations, etc all speak volumes to anyone paying attention. Let's see, for $10 more I experienced haptic, adaptive triggers, Tempest, Kraken, etc. All of which cost more to implement hence the extra cost. Note: if $10 is the make or break of my willingness to spend then I don't need to be buying anything. With your logic why pay for anything that's a sequel.🤣 Elden, Horizon, GoW, Dying Light, or the like are all similar to their counterparts.
@Surgicalmenace "GP will not create the level of profitability needed for a company to flourish, only the an ability for consumers to engage" If this is the case then why are developers continueing to release their games on GP? When exactly is this GP bubble of sustainability going to pop, because I believe it's going on five years now. As consumers and more importantly gamers, why would anyone complain about a service that for a monthly or yearly cost (out of their own pocket) , that service then provides a library of games. That probably would not get the exposure otherwise and on top of that be able to purchase at a used discount, the same as retail. You like to buy games, cool. No one will ever have a problem with that. But this strange narrative and fascination you have with others personal spending habits who say they play games from a service that they pay for out of their own pocket and then on top of that, tell them to manage their money better, is what really is the true cult like mentality only found here.
Cult like? No that's how adults who flourish in the real world think, sir. Furthermore, I'm speaking from the perspective of which those like myself approach their gaming. If you're more me minded and think about your own pockets that's all well & fine. Please be aware that there are those of us that place the survival of the industry above ourselves because sacrifice is apart of longevity. This approach is not the most popular in our current ecosystem but it still exists. Again, to each their own.
@Surgical If you had a business would you be able to grow while only selling products at a discount or a reduced price? Full price allows for maximum margin potential. Very basic understanding of business. I gather you've never operated your own?🤷🏾♂️ Just wondering what economic basis you are referring to cause it sure is not one from the product life cycle principle. Perhaps you could enlight us of this step in the growth stage But I could talk about the concept of price penetration to have a new product offered at a low price to have a faster entry into the market since the cost of production is already paid by MS before the launch (the introduction stage) This means getting to the Growth stage quicker. Just remember profit happens when you have covered your expenses. https://corporatefinanceins... "Let's see, for $10 more I experienced haptic, adaptive triggers, Are you talking about the seven 10 sec playable cutscenes (when Thor appears, the 3 times you are asked to cut a path with the axe, the 2 times you harvest materials for Brocks, and when you shoot arrows in a barfight)? "With your logic why pay for anything that's a sequel.🤣 Elden, Horizon, GoW, Dying Light, or the like are all similar to their counterparts" I'm not the one who said that "I'll walk away with a new experience while they'll continue trying to champion the importance of BC" So again what are these new experiences you are walking away with that make the experience of playing the new GOW different from playing the 2018 version on PS5?
You said a lot and at the same time said nothing. "No that's how adults who flourish in the real world think, sir." Actually that's not true, that's how children who pretend to be adults speak. They view themselves higher than what they really are while purposely demeaning others. Why do you care how someone prefers to spend their money, that they earned on a sub services like GP? A service that gives a lot of games exposure in an over crowded market. "...there are those of us that place the survival of the industry above ourselves because sacrifice is apart of longevity." We appreciate and salute your service on the front line keeping the industry afloat, but this isn't the first time this industry has survived rental services or the used game market. Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, Netflix, Redbox, Gamefly, etc have all had game rental services since the 8 bit days and the industry has still flourished and is on par or above with profits similar to Hollywood movies. And you haven't answered any of my questions by the way...if GP is such a detriment to the industry then why do devs continue to support it? "Again, to each their own." Well, if this is your closing argument then why do you continue to try and downplay GP and anyone who enjoys what it offers?
Pretty much but headlines get clicks
Listen, my guy, GP is cool for those who it's cool to but there are others that won't pretend that it is some savior to an industry that's only ailing on the side of MS. Sony nor Nintendo are pushing this narrative because they're both producing sellers. Concerning the development teams who keep taking advantage of GP, I mean, who wouldn't when there's no confidence that they'll make any money from the community directly? MS games sales trail on almost every chart if they even make it. Without GP there is no XB so it is a saving grace for XB only. Where the trouble lies is when those taking part in the service treat those paying as though we're missing out on something. News flash: we don't care because we're willing and able participants.
I see you're repeating empty statements from the echo chamber here, statements that have no real meaning when you actually read it out loud. "...but there are others that won't pretend that it is some savior to an industry that's only ailing on the side of MS." And let me guess, this is why it's up to you to come into almost every GP article and tell everyone how broke they are, how successful you are and how you're the savior of gaming because you buy your games? It's always wild how dudes get bent out of shape at others enjoying the services they prefer and pay for. "Sony nor Nintendo are pushing this narrative because they're both producing sellers." Good for them, but what exactly does that have to do with the people here who enjoy GP? "..who wouldn't when there's no confidence that they'll make any money from the community directly?" But you said it's bad for the industry and there's nothing to be gained with GP, now you're saying it's great for devs because blah blah blah, well if they're getting paid either way, then what's the issue? None, just more ramblings and nonsensical arguments dipped in fanboyism for Sony, with Nintendo thrown in when convenient. "Where the trouble lies is when those taking part in the service treat those paying as though we're missing out on something." Absolutely no one does this, the only time this ever happens is when people like you come in to try and downplay the service and tell others how they're hurting the industry, then in true corny fashion proclaim themselves heroes for buying their games, as if anyone ever cared. "News flash: we don't care because we're willing and able participants." Lmao, case in point.
I could care less about the people who choose to use the service as I only speak on the service and it's ultimate affect on the overall state of the industry. I am pro-corporation over consumer so my views are aligned with the companies that aim to profit. Most companies are not going to put their new releases on GP over their legacy titles in an effort to gain more buyers. If you take that personal, that's tough but changes nothing. I stand on what I stand on no matter who may refute, rebuttal, or otherwise. Who am I? An faceless/nameless avatar, my view is shared but doesn't have to be considered in any way. If you're comfortable with your decisions it doesn't matter what's said. Everyone is not going to align with what you or I choose to do. This is all just entertainment between sessions. It's not that deep to be offended. Sticks and stones...sticks and stones.🤣
I played it for around ten minutes before uninstalling it. It’s weird but it doesn’t even feel like a Battlefield game. It feels like another company has been making it and Dice have put their name on it.
EA play not GP
It's on gamepass. I'm literally looking at it. This is the issue with ppl like you. You don't do simple research or anything. You make things up for no reason. You tell me the sky is red and I say no it's blue then you want to argue. Like what? It's literally on gamepass. Clearlyou don't know anything Xbox related at all just do a 5 second google search my guy.
Agreed. It's on GP as well.
Sight lets see what's the official information says on the Gamepass webpage https://www.xbox.com/en-us/... Look at the game Battlefield V and there's a huge indication at the bottom saying: EA Play! Again EA play is an ultimate perk just like having 3 months of Apple Music is one or should we have an article about Gamepass is giving a second life to insert a song title that Apple is adding to Apple music this month?
I didn't bother buying & I haven't bothered trying it on GP.
It's on EA play subscription not GP
When I'm in GP (not EA Play) I see "recently added" I see games that were recently added to GP & one of those games is Battlefield 2042,so it's GP to me.
It's also on GP.
Yes Elda/Traecy the game shows on Gamepass due to being part of EA play On PC the EA play logo appears at the bottom and you need the apps to start it. The logo also appears on the console If you want to argue to opposite fine just read the official webpage https://www.xbox.com/en-us/...
It's EA access and of course they are going to push their own jank.
Ppl have been to hard on it. Because it was a very good game exxellentnvisualsnandmaudionco nrolsnspot on. Well worth an. Install and. Play
I won't even bother to read the article since the game is not coming directly to Gamepass but to EA Access. But I'm sure this kind of article will please the ppl hating the service.
“Not coming directly to Gamepass” That’s some fine hair splitting. If you have Game Pass Ultimate then you automatically have EA Access. I would wager there are more Game Pass subscribers than solely EA Access subscribers, hence the articles looking at it through the lens of ‘coming to Game Pass’
My point is yes it's coming to Gamepass via Ultimate perks but in no shape or form does MS have a say in what EA include in their own services. Just look at the comment section on this site to read the usual flocks of ppl trying to prove otherwise and how Gampass affects the quality of games. Just read the 1st comment for proof
I actually enjoy latest season very much. Playing it more than new Warzone lately. Organic BF moments are still unmatched.
Honestly this is just comical. These sites capitalizing on the issues the community is having, but let's be honest people will forget and love this game in a couple years. All their games have released with tech issues and controversies and people have gone on to praise them after they fix them. It really doesn't matter, these things are never a learning lesson for devs, it just encourages them to try the same thing over and over.
If a game improves it deserves a second chance? Of course, was on this like 2 days ago with friends and it's much better than its initial release. Now would I recommend buying it? No probably not, but it's a great multiplayer shooter now for game pass/EA play :)
Bullshit. Cancel culture is f***ked up. If the studio is willing to put in the work to correct wrongs and take gamers feedback to right those wrongs then they should have a second chance. Ask yourself if you’ve ever made bad decisions in life and didn’t want a chance to correct them. Not one person on this earth can say they’ve never experienced that. To me it’s what you do with that second chance. If you screw THAT up then clearly you do t get it.
It's not on Gamepass, but EAPlay, but you already knew that.
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