The series has never been about the real world, so why start now?
It may not take place in "reality", but it's clearly inspired by medieval Europe, what's so wrong with that. A "thegamer" flame bait article at it's finest. To counter the point of the article, why does it have to NOT abide by reality and include modern day culture and sentiments? Can't devs just make what they want to make?
This article started a while back ago, I first read it on Kotaku. This title is actually kind of modest, the original article I read was titled "Final Fantasy XVI Dev Has A Terrible Answer For Why The Game Is So White" I also just rolled my eyes... I mean the game is based on Medieval Europe. That's how it was back then, they just wanted to focus on making a game not making any political correct statements. This isn't Hollywood, go watch the "Little Mermaid" movie or "The Beauty and the Beast" movie where they have black people walking around the villages and castles dressed in those old fashion garbs just like if they were white, which is totally unrealistic. Those movies don't even stay accurate to the original Animated films. I mean seriously... Who even thinks of this shit? I watched that trailer a bunch of times and the color of the characters never even came to mind. The people who come up with this stuff must have race on their mind all day. Which kind of tells you who the racists really are.
What even is this article? Seriously...
Didn't you guys support FFXV being "fantasy based on reality" so it can be for "new fans and veterans alike"?
I had completely forgot about that god awful line, thanks for reminding me.
It is interesting how the characters can have tails, but making them black would be confusing and distracting. Aren't there like huge chickens walking around?!
I'd rather just have the artists create their visions than be pressured into checking off diversity boxes for a bunch of virtue signalers. This is a complete and total NON ISSUE that the writer is trying turn into one. Here's a thought, want more people of color represented in videogames? Then more people of color should go into game development. Because I guarantee you if you had an all black dev studio, you can damn well bet they'd be focused on making videogames based on black characters/culture (as they should and would have every right to) and no journalist would be asking THEM why there aren't any white characters in their game. The real issue isn't lack of diversity in games. The issue is why aren't more people of color going into game development and/or starting up dev studios. If you fix that, you fix any perceived lack of racial diversity in gaming.
I understand what you’re saying about more black people need to be in games development and create their own games. If they were to do that there would no doubt be many articles saying why there aren’t any white people in the game. Talk of inclusion would some how now be a topic many feel would be the right way to go. Sales of the game would likely be lower than another similarly made game but with different characters. Look at the Marvel Black Panther movie when it was first coming out and how many white people claim to be boycotting the movie because they felt there wasn’t any or rather enough white representation. Look at many games that have black leads and see how they tend to sell less, and many times just picked apart for silly reasons that for any other game would be an non issue.
@Abnor_Mal Ain't never heard no white people complain about lack of white representation. I googled it and all I could find was something about black men boycotting BP2 if shuri becomes BP. I don't even know if thats true. Most people in general don't care about representation. They just want good video games and movies.
You seem very confused. So because the Arthurian tales have dragons, King Arthur can suddenly be black? Go make a fantasy game based on ancient Africa and make the characters look like modern New York. See what happens.
I think YOU'RE confused. Their point is that the lore is fantasy. Thereby, the characters can be any race
@star And because it’s just fantasy we can have robot horses shooting pies out of their hooves. The base medieval Europe. Their vision is a fantasy medieval European inspired world. This is not hard to understand.
Sisi Jiang is that you?
yah lets change wakanda and make some of the lead characters white or asian, why keep the historical realism in wakanda, it doesnt feel right, i can understand that some minority feel bad in america or in the west in general, but plz dont throw your problems outside your country, asking from a japanese dev to do more to represent more recess when most western games and media dont show a single asian in their work, is crazy, plz start protesting westren games 1st and demand asians to be in everything then attack the east devs
Not to be THAT guy, but Wakanda is AfroFuturism...so there's no historical realism
And FF16 is using a Eurocentric base and sorry, there is historical realism in Wakanda. It’s set in Africa on earth.
It’s fiction based on comic books and not all africans are black, north african countries are majority white, but my point was not to change wakanda, the magic of that movie was watching that african culture themes, colors and music
Just let people make what they want ffs
Ah yes, the diversity...when western media talk about diversity , they are only talking about representation of blacks , because they dont care about the Asian, the Latino (aka the south american), the Middle Easterner (aka the Arab) and the Indian. The world for truly is black and white.
Guess you didn't read. They mentioned Asian's presence in ancient Europe. That the Japanese developers even omitted themselves from that history was one of the alleged outrages. They said diversity and somehow you assumed black
I think you're the one who didn't read my comment, and unlike the related article, it only has 3 lines of text. I generalized my opinion on western media, including the interview by IGN with Yoshi P, the very same piece this article is build upon...that centers their question, not about the Asians, and not about another ethnic group aside the black people. Quote from the IGN interview that spawned this reaction article, among others: "IGN: In regards to diversity in the game, can we expect to see Black characters in Final Fantasy XVI, or people of color (non-white characters) in general? To clarify a bit more, there’s been discussion around the trailers to date featuring mostly white characters, and I wanted to get clarity on whether we can expect the final game to be more diverse."
What a brain dead article. No wonder why gaming journalism is dying.
So they didn’t add any black or brown people, who the f*ck cares? It’s a Japanese developed game and there’s no Asian people, you don’t see them losing their mind on it. Enjoy the game for what it is and stop making it about race, if it’s such a big deal then don’t play it. I mean what’s next? No brown people in Mario so that’s racist now!?
They're making the game for the western audience and are supposing the west is all white
They’re making a game using medieval Europe as a base to ground the fantasy in. European styled castles, European styled fantasy weapons and armor, etc. this isn’t hard to understand.
The gameplay is how they’re appealing to a western audience. Being set in a medieval setting is nothing new to Final Fantasy. Check out the first one. They’re not supposing anything about the west being all white. They just decided on a setting and character looks, nothing more. People need to chill out with this whole race bull sh*t. The game is not being racist or problematic for not including different races. Selfish Idiots are the only ones who twist this into a race thing. I tried to use Mario as an example. There’s not a single brown person in the earlier games and yet everyone could just enjoy it as it is without saying it was racist. There’s plenty of games with black and brown people if it really triggers you, go play one of those. I find it hilarious that not a single Japanese person gets upset that there’s not a single Asian in the game and they’re the one’s developing it. Maybe people should take a hint from them and just enjoy something for what it is and not try to twist it into something it isn’t.
@Star51 "are supposing the west is all white" Where did you get that from? That's a massive assumption. They're asian yet they have no pressing need to represent their own race and thats true for many FF games. Most people don't need racial representation to enjoy something. I don't and I don't know anyone else who does irl. Its all about the quality of the content.
I like the "new" direction. It reminds me of before they went with the stupid metro emo look.
thegamer has no business making articles. Go touch grass! Wheres all the diversity in Black Panther? Yet im sure thegamer has zero issues with that. Forced diversity is one of the worst things a game can have.
There were and are white characters in both Black Panther films.
my god is this stupid. i saw this on reddit like a week ago or so. who the fuck cares, let the devs make those decisions. if its based on medieval europe, why shouldnt they make it as realistic as possible?
What's up with "thegamer" articles lately? Editor must be sniffing glue or something. How is anything about Final Fantasy realistic? Is it the chocobos? Maybe Shiva or Ifrit? Just because it's in a medieval setting doesn't mean it's trying to be historic or realistic in any way. Guess what, the moon landings were also historic, so does that mean Mass Effect should have been more about our 'real' experience of space? Been all about some dudes bouncing around on the moon? No, it was a gane about what "could" be in space. Just like what medieval Europe "could" have been like with chocobos and fucking summons. Christ, most "fantasy" fiction takes place in medieval settings. Ever heard of Lord of the Rings? Game of Thrones? Witcher? You are retarded.
God I really hate these chucklefucks. I guarantee if a game was based on ancient Africa with a fantasy twist, if it was black Africans, they’d lose their shit. Fuck these racist people.
If there were no white people in this game no one would care, the fact we are having this conversation is in itself a bit racist.
The entire game uses medieval Europe as a bad. The castles, weapons, armor are all based on European designs. If they want to make it that way why is it such a shock the characters are based on Europeans as well? I’m getting so tired of this nonsense.
I genuinely feel bad for Square Enix and the FFXVI Team. It's the kind of question I bet the developers had to take a moment and think how to best answer it without offending the ones who were asking it. All they want to do is make a great game and they have a vision for that and they shouldn't feel pressured to do anything they don't want to. Square is literally making an entire other fantasy game with a black, female lead and an entire female cast. Representation is doesn't mean every piece of media you create must represent every person from every walk of life that identifies under an infinite numbers of labels. Like seriously, just fuck off. Isn't looking at the world through this lens tiring?
Is there a way to blacklist certain websites on N4G? Serious question
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Can these 'journos' just STFU! From Kotaku going on a rant about how white the game is and now this article about having a European medieval setting. It's the game director's.....direction. Question the game on how good or bad it will be when it releases. Just wait till that journo hears that New Donk City was inspired by New York.
LOL @Kotaku complaining about anything being so white. Complaining about whiteness is the whitest thing ever.
An incredibly pretentious article addressing an issue of exactly zero importance. The quintessential 1st world gripe. I have a question. What business do game journalists have telling developers how to make games? Last I checked most of y'all struggle to even play video games.
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