Gotham Knights Will Run at 30 FPS on Consoles Due to Co-Op

Fleur Marty writes: "I know many of you are wondering about the availability of a performance mode for Gotham Knights on consoles. Due to the types of features we have in our game, like providing a fully untethered co-op experience in our highly detailed open-world, it's not as straightforward as lowering the resolution and getting a higher FPS. For this reason, our game does not have a performance/quality toggle option and will run at 30FPS on consoles."

[Orchard]

Why... 30fps modes only on next gen is totally unacceptable.

[Jin_Sakai]

“The game won't support 60 FPS on consoles, at least at launch.”

Then I won’t support the game until it’s running at 60fps.

[Army_of_Darkness]

This is ridiculous and unacceptable that there isn't a 60fps option for current gen consoles! especially when this game has last gen quality graphics! Forbidden west is open world with outstanding graphics while running at 60fps so I'm sure they can do a little better than this halfed as$ bs.

[deleted]

Same here. I always choose performance mode over quality, at least during a first playthrough. I'm definitely interested in the game, but I feel no incentive to get it at launch. I can wait.

[PapaBop]

Agreed, no performance mode, no buy.

[TheLigX]

Me either. The unfortunate thing is that this game appears to be completely rushed and mismanaged. I wouldn’t be surprised if WB Montreal shuts down after this and a whole bunch of devs and QA staff lose their livelihoods.

[SDuck]

I think we're way past calling it "next gen". It's been a year since they launched, it's current gen at this point. Still an unacceptable situation at such an early phase of the console's lifespan

[ArdynMDH]

I'm most likely wrong but I feel like the reason we aren't seeing the graphical leaps we used to see between generations is because the industry is stuck on trying to optimize a game so "previous" generations can play the game and because a majority of the games we have now are cross-gen/cross/play.

If they focused solely on current gen I bet they could easily optimize it to run at 60fps .

[Visceral89]

It's going to be 2 years in a month

[Profchaos]

Closer to two years at this point

[starsi360]

It's more or less 2 years since they launched... end of 2020

[Gridknac]

Lol, its been 2yrs since they launched!

[Profchaos]

Probably tried targeting higher quality visuals same as every gen we eventually go back to seeing predominantly 30fps games.

I'd it's 30 fps I'd say it's likely the frame rate was wildly fluctuating making it a miserable experience best we can hope for us a 40fps mode to enable vrr and then we should see a significant boost

[Good-Smurf]

Here's the thing there are already much better looking games on PS5 yet they run at 60 fps and over.
This game looked quite sub par for current gen standard.

[Crows90]

It's called poor optimization. They should hire a team to optimize their game.

[darthv72]

seems odd. usually there is a performance mode and a quality mode.

[Angyobangyo]

That would require common sense, which the devs seem to be lacking.

[XbladeTeddy]

Yeah but the devs are living in last gen land and Nintendo world.

[Sgt_Slaughter]

60 FPS should be the standard by this point, no excuses. These new systems can do [email protected] yet this very last gen feeling game can't hit it?

[Number1TailzFan]

4k on console is not always native, it's upscaled. UE5 games will probably be locked 30 for some of them too unless running at 1080p or something.

[Sirk7x]

Most console games this gen run at 30FPS when you're targeting 4K, and 60FPS at 1440. Generally dynamic resolutions. I'm surprised there aren't options. I usually choose fidelity modes, but I know many prefer to run at 60FPS.

[Shane Kim]

I also go for graphics. But I mainly play SP games and a locked 30 is good enough.

[monkey602]

There are a few developers speaking about this and are chalking it down to the Series S. That machine is going to hold a lot of games back for a few years yet.

[VersusDMC]

Ha! Now we know why the last gen versions were cancelled...probably running at 15 fps if they can't get a 60 fps performance mode running on current gen. And i think it doesn't even look better than arkham knight so i don't know why they can't.

[Ashunderfire86]

An Arkham Knight looks way better than this on PS4/PS4 Pro! Even the water design looks better than this! Come on man dang!

[Ryuk_2007]

A ps4 game with the ps5 price

[Flewid638]

At least you acknowledge the only difference between last gen and this gen is the framerate.

[masterfox]

the game already looks boring and now this?, lol good luck with that.

[TheExecutioner]

60 fps gangs are upset

[Sirk7x]

I usually choose higher fidelity modes, but this news is concerning, because everyone else since this gen launched has been able to implement graphics mode choices. It definitely hints at performance and development issues. I have a feeling this game isn't going to run well, even with the 30 fps cap. I could be wrong, but this game might be a total shit show.

[Shikoku]

A warner bros game runs like crap? No way really?

[Father__Merrin]

Unacceptable for a next gen game. Both consoles have the CPU and GPU for high FPS.

For a TV display 60fpss should be the norm now for consoles

[Flawlessmic]

I play all my games at 30 quality mode anyway so no biggie for me but game better look amazing atleast if they won't provide 60 fps option for people that do enjoy it

[Good-Smurf]

Search for Skill Up impressions on the game it certainly not amazing looking not even close to stuff like Returnal and at half the frame rate.

[Mr_Writer85]

I agree with Good-Smurf it doesn't even look all that impressive graphically.

Had it looked the best looking current gen on the market, possibly. Even if they made it 30fps just got multiplayer.

But it doesn't even look as impressive as an old last gen title never mind an early PS5 or Series X console.

[P_Bomb]

Disappointed. I’m so over 30fps at these prices.

[XxINFERNUSxX]

I will guess that the RTX 4090 @ 4K with DLSS 3 (I think it will support it) max settings + RT we should see maybe 100+ FPS or maybe just a bit under that. If not then at least to me the 4090 fails. Yeah sure it can run current PC games at 4K + max settings and RT with FPS in the 100's but if it can't do that or at least come close to that number with future games then, it's not all that in my eyes.

[darksky]

Arkham games are usually Nvidia sponsored so I wouldn't even be surprised if they nerfed the console versions to sell the new RTX 4000 series for Nvidia.

[TheLigX]

Tinfoil hat nonsense. In no reality would your take make sense. It’s been a mismanaged and sloppy project from the start.

[XxINFERNUSxX]

I doubt they would do that, unless they do not want to sell copies 😄

[Sirk7x]

That would not be a failure of any graphics card, that would be a failure of the company making the game to to deliver a good product. Also, how many people are going to have a 4090 anyways lol.

[GamingSinceForever]

That sucks

[BlaqMagiq1]

This is a disgrace. No game this gen should be without a 60fps option. Especially a game that was developed for last gen and then jumped to current gen while cancelling the last gen versions.

[Ashunderfire86]

It was a case of cancelling the last gen versions at the last minute, which means they can’t say they build this game from the ground up for current Gen consoles.

[TheLigX]

The game looks terrible.

[TheLigX]

Absolutely.

[Notellin]

What a joke. Next gen has been a massive disappointment.

[Flewid638]

You were placing all your next gen bets on this one game?

[Notellin]

This is the latest example. What a stupid comment.

[TheLigX]

Lol. Because one bad looking game doesn’t have a 60fps mode? So you judge every generation by its disappointments? Gaming must be a truly miserable hobby for you.

[Notellin]

Damn your simple mind drew that conclusion from 2 sentences? You're projecting your misery on others replying like this as opposed to my pretty simple statement.

[Sirk7x]

Every other game has been able to deliver multiple graphics options. I think it's just this game that's going to be a massive disappointment LOL.

[GoodGuy09]

Oooof. 60fps option needs to be standard from this gen and forth for consoles.

[Good-Smurf]

Sounds like they rushed it makes no sense why it won't rub and run at 60 fps the game already looked dated months prior.
The least they can do is to give us unlock framerate option should have learn it from games like Bioshock 1,2 have this very forward thinking option in 2008 on PS3,360 era which is a potato hardware wise compared to PS5 and Series X.

[Exvalos]

So I'm limited to last Gen frame rates for a feature I will not be using. This game about to be straight trash.

[Knightofelemia]

I cancelled my preorder today

[FlavorLav01]

Might cancel mine as well and play on PC instead, get the best of both worlds. 60fps is crucial to many of us these days, should be the new standard by now, especially given how often dynamic resolution is used to achieve 4k anyway.

[Sirk7x]

Bold of you to assume this game will run well on PC either lol. I mean, brute force maybe if you have a great card, but the writing is on the wall that this game is not optimized well.

[GamingSinceForever]

Why pre-order? Will it not be available day one?

Just curious to know because I never understood that. Do pre-orders come with something additional?

[BrainSyphoned]

Probably why Gotham looks plain and empty in the preview video Skill Up released.

[CobraKai]

I agree with most people here. The graphics are decidedly last gen so 60fps should be included. I’d be more understanding if a suite of current gen effects were used, but it isn’t. And co-op isn’t much of an excuse.

[JEECE]

They can't have a 60 fps mode because the game has co-op is one of the lamest excuses I've ever heard. It would be one thing if it was "it takes every ounce of power from the PS5/Series X to even get to a locked 30 fps because we built such an intricate world with complex AI and tons of things happening on screen." I mean, I'd still be annoyed about that, but at least it would feel somewhat valid. But no, the excuse is, "we can't do 60 fps because the game has co-op." I guess they forgot that there have already been countless games with co-op that ran at 60 fps (or better, in some instances).

[Ashunderfire86]

The Ai sucks from the preview builds. And even the stealth 🥷 take downs look dated in some situations.

[JEECE]

Exactly. This isn't some groundbreaking game visually and gameplay wise. It's entirely derivative. That's fine; not every game can be revolutionary, but if you are going to be derivative your game needs to play and run well.

Maybe there will be a game later this gen where I really buy the idea that it's so complex and graphically intensive that 30 fps is all that's possible. It just isn't this game that looks like a mid-tier PS4 game.

[LonDonE]

exactly this, they are just lazy, the game looks lazy and boring

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

30 fps? I was in the fence about this game now but now I know I will not be buying this game. 30 fps is unacceptable on current gen hardware.

[BestBusdriver]

If you see how slowwwww this game is....it s like 10 fps😆

[Hofstaderman]

Even with co op ps5 and series x should be able to do 60 fps. Absolutely poor excuse.

[Exvalos]

There is much better looking and bigger games that run at 60, no excuse for 30 fps

[starsi360]

For me, 60fps makes such a huge difference to the feel of a game over 30fps that I hate going back to games that run at 30. They just feel sluggish and janky.

I was interested in this game but now... not at all. Bad mistake by the developer here.

[DaniMacYo]

DOA.