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I Thought The Last Of Us Was Better Than This

Blake writes: "I think there's room for a remake of The Last of Us, which rebuilds more from the ground up than just visuals and parts of gameplay. But unfortunately, this isn't that kind of game. Its improvements feel surface deep at best and largely superfluous at worst. The game looks good but doesn't always deliver beyond that visual impact. I'm not sure a third trek was necessary."

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Knushwood Butt1017d ago ShowReplies(7)
Christopher1017d ago

"The problem is, I remember The Last of Us being better. "

This is a problem with the individual. The remembrance is elevated to a point that it can't be matched with the memory of the individual and what they experienced with the game originally. It's why people complain about "no good games anymore" because they've elevated the past beyond what it is in their head because of the feeling and emotions they had around it. They aren't aware they do it, but they do it nonetheless and it's pretty common in other mediums as well.

It's called personal nostalgia.

--Onilink--1017d ago (Edited 1017d ago )

But the point of most remakes is to bridge that gap between what people remembered and what it actually was. Since they decided to focus mostly on the visuals, or course all the problems that the original had in terms of gameplay will stick out.

People tend to forget just how much more dynamic the combat became in Uncharted 4/Lost Legacy/LOU2 compared to their earlier titles

Christopher1017d ago

***But the point of most remakes is to bridge that gap between what people remembered and what it actually was.***

I can't agree that the point of remakes is to bridge the gap but to bring it slightly forward. And, the biggest complaints this author had were the story, not the gameplay. Remakes very rarely affect storytelling.

***People tend to forget just how much more dynamic the combat became in Uncharted 4/Lost Legacy/LOU2 compared to their earlier titles***

I mean, yeah, that's pretty standard. That doesn't change how "good" this author felt the original was mired by memories and not an actual analysis of the original. This isn't about "how different the other game was" but how after replaying TLoU he didn't feel it was as good as he remembered.

None of the gameplay changed, so why did he think it was good before until he replayed it? The story didn't change at all, so why did he think it was good until he replayed it?

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senorfartcushion1017d ago

Outside of bugs, game reviewing is always personal. People pay too much attention to opinions of others

Crows901017d ago

Not true. Reviewers can be objective. Doesn't have to be personal at all. A critique can be formed by following certain rules or criteria and then grading based on that criteria.

While true some subjective elements will remain in every review there can also be objective elements. Like if a game has great realistic animations...that's objective. There's of course the possibility of a reviewer failing at being objective and making a purely subjective review of a game.

0hMyGandhi1017d ago

@Crows90 Absolutely false. Reviewers are providing their review of a game, and that review will *always* be subjective. Opinions cannot be objective.

The only time a review can be "objective" is with actual metrics, like discussing the game engine, and the tech driving it. A game reviewer saying that the game has "realistic animation" is not an objective statement.

Honestly, I don't know how old you are, but this is what worries me about this up-and-coming generation that can't understand the distinction between a fact and an opinion; what is objective and what is subjective.

Godmars2901017d ago

@Crows90:

Reviewers have been openly bias since before Polygon came on the scene. Has become the literal center of the current social/entertainment divide.

Dirty_Lemons1017d ago

Exactly. I remember Star Wars: Master of Teras Kasi being fantastic as a child. I tried it a few months ago and it's pure shit.

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anast1017d ago

This is a good comment and I agree. People usually don't remember actual situations. They usually only remember their feelings during a situation and most of the time those feelings are loosely tied to any given situation.

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Elda1017d ago

Stop the obsessive whining knowing you're going to end up buying the game regardless otherwise you would be paying the game & its price no mind.

travestyj1017d ago

A lot of this reads like shit troll comments

brewin1017d ago (Edited 1017d ago )

Thanks for your input. I thought it was interesting because of the psychological aspects of it. Like, why as gamers do we have this innate desire to play the best versions of things we've already played? So much so that we're willing to pay the cost of a brand new game to replay something.

We know how the story plays out, but we want to experience it with the new bells and whistles. I didnt think this was trolling at all, but a real deep dive into our own personal feelings of nostalgia and value. Some people think that there is value here, others see it as nothing more than a cash grab. Its an interesting dynamic to see how different people react to the opinion one way or another.

Crows901017d ago

I want to replay it because I like it. But won't be paying full price.

travestyj1017d ago

Do you also wonder why someone might want to watch their favorite movies or TV shows again? Or buy a 4K bluray of their favorite movies even in they owned them in a different format?

Why listen to a song more than once? You hear it one time, never need to hear it again!

Kakashi Hatake1017d ago

Game journalists are gunning for Sony these days. MS paying for them articles I see.

Jin_Sakai1017d ago

Like the bias review from IGN France?

"If we were to judge Part I only as a remake which isn't bringing anything gameplay or story-wise, the score would be 70. But at the end of the day, the Naughty Dog masterpiece is getting its best version yet so it couldn't be anything else than a perfect 10."

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Crows901017d ago (Edited 1017d ago )

That quote makes no sense. Is that really the quote????

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Stanjara1017d ago

What? How can anyone give this game anything lower than 9/10? Everybody shilling for the Druckmann D in case of a new masterpiece and an early copy in the future.

shinoff21831017d ago

I feel this to. They try to trash alot of sony stuff for a bit now. I almost feel your right. Being compensated a little to slant things to the negative.

DankSinatra1017d ago

When anyone calls Sony out for a BS cash grab:

“Why is everyone attacking Sony!”

When anyone else does the same cash grab;

“Man when will this company learn!”

It’s good for companies to be criticized for piss poor practices. Nintendo, Microsoft, and yes, even Sony, each have such practices.

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PlayStation - The Concert "Changes Everything" for Music Lovers

PlayStation - The Concert is a magical musical experience for fans of the brand.

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The Last of Us Complete Now Available on PS5, Physical Collector’s Edition Coming July

Two award-winning masterpieces, together in one incredible collection.

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Christopher65d ago (Edited 65d ago )

As expected. Unless it's going to Xbox or Switch 2, we can stop hearing about these older games now? We can move on to just news about new games?

darthv7265d ago

....until the PS6 remake followed by the PS7 reboot

Christopher65d ago

Man, first year of PS6 is going to be 90% remasters. I'm going to hate it and likely hold off until new games actually get released that I can't play on my PS5.

Cacabunga65d ago

Yes I’m waiting for complete remaster…. On ps5

OtterX65d ago

...20 years later, "you haven't heard the last of us yet!" *releases The Last of Us Retro Collection*

cloganart65d ago

@Christopher

Oof, yeah. I don't think I'm picking up the PS6 until "Pro" comes out 😂

Cacabunga64d ago

I haven’t played Tlou1 since PS3 and i have the greatest memory of it

Notellin64d ago

I'm already dreading all the cross generation games and remasters we'll see with the next round of consoles.

LonDonE64d ago

lmao this is getting ridiculous but thing is if people keep buying them.. then why would they stop making them?
Peeps STOP BUYING this game.. that actually hurts me to say this as the last of us is high up on my greatest games of all times.. its one of the few games i played through start to finish 3/4 times back to back as i loved it so much. But sony need to stop, give us a Resistance 3 remaster, i would love and buy that.. such an underated series as was killzone.
Or give us infamous.. so many great series and titles i would gladly buy but they just want to keep giving us last of us.

I am done buying that game.. i would only buy part 2 remaster if they remade it and kept joel alive, or i am not interested. Hate last of us 2s story killing off joel.. the actual game is stunning and incredible, they improved so much in the gameplay department but i hate the story with a passion.

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Profchaos65d ago (Edited 65d ago )

We can stop hearing about it when they stop re-releasing them I guess.

I reckon the ps6 version will be 8k 240 and I'll still not care.

I miss new games from nd

Inverno65d ago

And HBO just announced season 3 even tho LoU2 couldn't possibly be so long that it wouldn't be able to fit in 1 season. They're just milking it at this point.

darthv7265d ago

speaking of the HBO series... I felt they should have made part 1 across two seasons, then address part 2 in seasons 3 and 4. so now i have a feeling they rushed through part 1 in season 1 to make season 2 a cliff hanger with Joel's impending demise being the starting point to Season 3.

-Foxtrot65d ago

I love how they decided to rush, chop and change things for Season 1 to get through the game yet for TLOU Part II it’s like “we’re going to do multiple seasons and take our time”

Inverno64d ago

Okay after seeing that there's only 7 episodes I take it back. Though I think it's incredibly stupid not to have just made the season longer. Another season just to finish what could've just been a 13 episode season seems counterintuitive but aiight. I put that on HBO tho.

Neonridr65d ago

This will be the 4th time Sony sells us The Last of Us Part 1.. And the 2nd time on the PS5.

Knushwood Butt64d ago

They don't want Metroid Prime holding that record,

NotoriousWhiz64d ago

Strange, I thought the record went to Street Fighter 2.

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FPS_D3TH65d ago

We are approaching Skyrim levels here

Profchaos65d ago

At this point we are at Skyrim in terms of frequency. Skyrim was one per generation. If you exclude VR Skyrim we've now exceeded it

Tlou 1 PS3, 1 PS4 2 ps5
Skyrim 1 ps360 2 PS4/x1/vr 1 ps5/sx

Tlou 4
Skyrim 4

Christopher65d ago

Not quite. Skyrim had:

PS3/360/PC
PS4/X1
VR
Switch
Skyrim Special Edition PC/PS4/X1
Skyrim Special Edition PS5/XSX

VersusDMC65d ago (Edited 65d ago )

Also add skyrim bundles like the one below and all the humble bundles since that's what everyone is doing here

https://www.xbox.com/en-CA/...

darthv7265d ago

@Chris, LoU is getting just as bad by milking the same user base. At least Skyrim was able to sell to a wider audience via different platforms.

Christopher65d ago

@darthv72: I don't know why you're telling me that. I only corrected on number of Skyrim re-releases/ports/etc. I didn't say anything else.

Profchaos65d ago

@christopher guess I forgot just how much was out I think the special editions are technically one release despite being cross platform though would the Alexa version count

Christopher65d ago

@Profchaos: I guess, but I'd consider it a separate release since it rolled them into one at a later date but definitely there is a PS5/XSX version with PS5/XSX supported updates specific to them.

Chevalier64d ago

"LoU is getting just as bad by milking the same user base"

Weird. Like 35% of PS5 owners are NEW to Playstation. Plus this is really for new fans from the TV series for season 2 of TLOU.

I recall the same idiotic comments when the 1st one was remade just before TLOU TV Series came out and it went on the be one of the best selling games that year.

So maybe get your FACTS straight. Unlike Skyrim getting literally releases in 3 generations and 10 releases.

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Neonridr64d ago

I gotta figure RE4 is up there too

FPS_D3TH64d ago

No. Those are remakes. Not remasters

Neonridr64d ago

@FPS - we've had quite a few RE4 remasters, only 1 remake.

CrimsonWing6963d ago (Edited 63d ago )

@FPS_D3TH

It blows my mind how people do some mental gymnastics to try to cope with a game they like doing the same thing (technically more) they’re complaining about for another game.

RE4 - PS2, GC
RE4 w Motion Controls - Wii
Literally RE4 HD Remaster - Xbox 360, PS3
I’m assuming a port of RE HD - PS4, Xbox One
RE4 Remake - PS5, Xsex

1 Remake and the bunch are Remasters… how, I mean how—Y’know what, it doesn’t matter anymore…

P_Bomb65d ago

Store says I already own it. I guess it’s just a straight twin-pack. Looks like they added 4 maps to ‘No Return’.

VersusDMC65d ago

You don't need to buy this to get the maps, marlene and bill. It all got patched in to the game on the 3rd.

P_Bomb65d ago (Edited 65d ago )

Good to know. I’ve watched runs of ‘No Return’ but have yet to try it myself. Soon, soon 😉

Knushwood Butt65d ago

Yeah, No Return got a content update.
Three new trophies too.

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A mysterious physical edition of a Naughty Dog game is in the works

billibil-kun: "As The Last of Us season 2 prepares to air on HBO, we've spotted a mysterious reference to a special edition of a physical PS5 game from the franchise. Here's our take on the game, which remains unclear for now."

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Relientk7775d ago

It's probably a bundle of both The Last of Us games

Nyxus75d ago

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. The Last of Us Part 1 + II Remastered.

lukasmain75d ago (Edited 75d ago )

That's totally what it is I believe. It would be a great bundle for new players getting into the ecosystem

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Goodguy0175d ago

They're really milking this franchise lol

anast74d ago

You must comment on every Mario, Zelda, and Skyrim article too.

darthv7274d ago

....because there has been the same mario, Zelda and Skyrim games for three console generations?

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isarai74d ago

@darthv72

Literally yes 🤨

Cacabunga74d ago

Every Mario and Zelda is different. This is just the exact same game over and over

anast74d ago

Skyrim, yes. Mario and Zelda since the 80's

Loktai74d ago

@darthv72 Uh yes. Yes it has. They milked BOTW across Wii U and switch and they STILL want 40+ for it new and never discounted it. They made "remasters" of older zelda games as well on switch and in the past onto the other gameboy platforms from the older platforms. They have done the same with Mario. They port the paper mario games and mario RPG to switch. And now I PROMISE you they are going to show "enhancements" for those same games on Switch 2. I PROMISE you thats going to get mentioned, maybe even tomorrow. Last of us Part 1 has been across techncially 3 generations, but 2 has been 2- and JUST BARELY 2 because it released just a few months before the PS5 did - and so if that counts as milking it, what do you call breath of the wild on Wii U then going to switch or Twilight Princess coming uot on gamecube and Wii - OR ZELDA WIND WAKER HD coming out?

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Chevalier74d ago (Edited 74d ago )

"Skyrim games for three console generations?"

Darth showing some idiocy here. Seriously yes Skyrim has been re-released more than any other game period. It's been released on 3 generations - PS3, PS4, PS5, PSVR, PC, PC VR, Switch, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S. That's 10 releases across 3 generations! So Seriously get your DAMN facts straight.

Yui_Suzumiya74d ago

And yet Fallout 3 has never been Remastered. Prison time should be given for that offense, lol

darthv7274d ago

Skyrim sure, but the other two... not so much

thorstein74d ago (Edited 74d ago )

@darth GTAV says hi.

Skyrim has an Alexa edition.

Chevalier74d ago

Clearly a guy with business acumen! Why would Sony want to rebundle games and release them in time for the 2nd season of TLOU to release? I mean the last time a bunch of idiots laughed at Sony then guess what? TLOU part 1 for PS5 only hit top 5 sales and kept popping onto charts throughout the year?! Lol

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Chevalier74d ago

"Skyrim sure, but the other two... not so much"

Multiple Mario and Zelda games have made 2 generations. Maybe you guys forget that over a 3rd of the gamers on Playstation have NEVER owned a Playstation system before and some are coming into it as a result of the TV show.

People said the EXACT same crap when the 1st game got released on PS5, but, it ended up being one of the best selling games the year it came out.

Also for all the idiots complaining. Playstation at least offer $10 upgrades for some of these games. Have you EVER seen a re-release by Nintendo, Xbox, Bethesda offer that?! No I didn't think so.

darthv7274d ago

releasing a newer version because the previous version is not physically compatible is not quite the same as taking a perfectly good existing game that already works on the newer platform and repackaging it under a remaster brand for that newer platform and then repackaging it AGAIN for the same platform.

And that whole line of *insert people here may not have had a PS before* is a line of BS. PS2 is the most selling platform in history... chances are very good a high percentage upgrade to the PS3 and then upgraded to the PS4 and are upgrading again for the PS5. So dont give me that line of bologna. you'd rather swallow every bit of Sony propaganda instead of call them out for milking (and yes this is milking) this game. You know there will be a PS6 version and likely a PS7 remaster.

Of course i am purely speculating on the 6 & 7 but there is a high degree of probability because of what they did already between 3, 4 & 5. And you defending even the $10 upgrade when most of the XB games get free upgrades is just another sign of your blind loyalty. I didnt think it possible and gave you benefit of the doubt but now I can see i was totally wrong.

Chevalier73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

@Darth

Again your examples are absolutely terrible. Repackaged games for new audiences isn't new with the high cost of development. This release is timed for people that are new to Playstation coming from watching season 2 of the TV show. If you're surprised and annoyed by this then stop gaming then. It will happen if there's some new Skyrim, Fallout, Doom or whatever TV show comes out too.

Also you're the guy who defends Xbox for this crap too. Skyrim releases were done while owned by Xbox.

Also you mentioned the PS2, repackaged games happened all the time then too. If you think that repackaged games is going to go away with the skyrocketing cost of development is going away then sorry cover your eyes and plug your ears and pretend like an idiot then. You will be complaining daily soon.

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OhReginald74d ago (Edited 74d ago )

I hope it's both ps5 games bundled with all updates including the new no return add ons for April. I'll triple dip on that.

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