Warzone #28 - God Of War VS. Ninja Gaiden, Which Has The Better Fighting System

Torrence Davis of The Bitbag writes, "One of our listeners asked us which game had the better fighting, Ninja Gaiden 2 or God Of War. He lit the flames in the chat and Torrence Davis and Hiphopgamer argued this for awhile. Also on this episode:

- What are the effects of having a single console supported by Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo
- Sony banning PS3's off of PSN and not unbanning them
- What old games haven't you beaten?
- Which consoles have broken down on you? Hit the True Gamer forums to join in the poll
- What old games have you not beaten yet?
- And much much more…"

[ultimolu]

Ninja Gaiden and God of War?

That's a toughie for me because I love both...:/

[WANNA GET HIGH]

God Of War.... Enough Said..... (-_-)

[sonarus]

Thers is nothing tough about it. GOW is an incredible game but NO GAME...i'll repeat NO GAME can tough Ninja Gaiden Fighting system. Like its not even close.

GOW has it beat on story, puzzles, platforming, music and overall is a much better game but as far as fighting system Ninja Gaiden is far ahead of everyone else. Anyone who says GOW3 has better fighting system is either a fanboy or is a fake gamer. The difference in depth between the two fighting systems is as clear as night and day

[Dir_en_grey]

Did people not play DMC 3 before they even decide to argue about which action game has the best fighting system????

There are still tournaments going on for DMC3 SE and there is a community for it just like the fighting game communities. I don't see God of War or Ninja Gaiden still having tournaments or even having communities backing them well after the game is released.

I'm sorry but NG2 and GoW2 are like kindergarten compared to DMC3.

[Bnet343]

I say Ninja Gaiden since it's a much harder game, almost like a fighting game within itself with all the moves and better controls. Rolling with the right analog stick in GoW is a bit on the weird side. but I love both series equally.

This is what I mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

GoW doesn't have that type of fighting mechanic. GoW pretty much has that pound your way through sh*t type thing. Fun, but nothing to get technical with.

@Skerj

Good comment, I agree with everything you say. I can see why DMC is deeper for the simple fact that shooting your gun keeps the combo streak alive. What you say about God of War is right as well. It's good and fun, but nothing to show your skills for.

[Skerj]

Dir En Grey speaks the truth, DMC3 SE has the best combat engine of this new "action era" hands down. Kail's videos from the True Style Tournament are still legendary. Vanilla DMC3 and DMC4 are nothing to sneeze at either, and NG isn't too far behind.

God of War's combat engine really pales in comparison though, it's visceral sure but there's little to no room for improvisation. That's something I'm hoping gets rectified in GoW3 as GoW2 started showing promise but it never took it "there".

@Kigmal

Yeah the guns do help, like buffering with E&R and those crazy ass Artemis tricks. But then you get off into the deep stuff like air resets, just rolls, soft and hard locks, buffering Devil Arm techniques, and some of the freeform combos and it's just ace.

A lot of people don't know usually and choose to button mash without ever learning how deep the game TRULY is. I still remember telling fools that Snatch Jump Cancelling in DMC4 was NOT a glitch, then they didn't listen and when the game came out you saw that you had to purchase the ability to do so.

Ninja Gaiden has a lot of that stuff too which is why even though I got pissed at NG for lack of story and mostly uninteresting characters, one thing I WILL say is that the combat engine is dope as hell.

[Doppy]

Saying Ninja Gaiden has the best combat system is an opinion, but I will say that it's combat system seems to have more effort put into it than GOW and DMC. God of War's combat is more fun to me, but I agree that Ninja Gaiden edges the others out.

[Gue1]

I agree with Sonarus. There's not even a single action game in existence that can compete with Ninja Gaiden on that aspect.

You can't beat Ninja Gaiden pressing the square button constantly like in GOD. There's simply no way to do it. Ninja Gaiden has so much depth in it that it's difficult to even compare it with other games because this is the first of its class. It's like comparing Skate to Tony Hawk games where Tony represents GOD and Skate NG. The AI too is so much better, and the precision of the gameplay doesn't lets you button smash without knowing what are you doing. NG2 was crap though. = \

But as you know GOD has the better story, graphics, art, etc but not the gameplay. Everyone I know that it is a GOD fanatic agree with me but on this site filled with fanboys I'm just expecting a lot of phantom disagrees anyways... The same way I loosed a bubble without a reason. =|

[ultimolu]

*shrugs*

I just love both. :D

[Jamegohanssj5]

I've never played a God of War, but I've played Devil May Cry's and Ninja Gaidens. I love Ninja Gaiden Sigma and it's like crazy hard, but awesome. You would need about 3 controllers if you can't control your temper. Devil May Cry's are pretty good, but I think Ninja Gaiden has the upper hand.

TGSI

[phosphor112]

Those games are both WAY different too compare. One has devastating "lets kill sh*t" attacks, and the other has a very agile and intricate fighting system. I love both, and both are great, nuff said.

[CViper]

Because at the end of the day, Kratos is the ultimate badass. You feel that when you control him, and kill the hell out of everything in sight.

[Rikitatsu]

Bayonetta will trump them all with its New Fighting system.

[barom]

Even as much as I love God Of War. I gotta give it to Ninja Gaiden. It's really fast paced and it's a lot more responsive. I think Ninja Gaiden wins in that regard but not by that much. If there's one thing that Ninja Gaiden 2 showed, it's that Ninja Gaiden lives on combat, cause everything else was only incrementally better or equally good (some stuff was even worse, camera is one of them).

As far as everything else goes though. God Of War wins no contest. Story, art direction, soundtrack, bosses, puzzles, design, blow your mind moments and basically everything else you name it.

[Danja]

DMC3:SE probably has the best fighting system still IMO..

NG comes in second..

GOW pales in comparison to both games..but it's a better overall game though

[likedamaster]

""You can't beat Ninja Gaiden pressing the square button constantly like in GOD. There's simply no way to do it. Ninja Gaiden has so much depth in it that it's difficult to even compare it with other games""

To be fair, they both have deep levels of fight styles, both have many combo moves, and both have unique styles.

I have played both games a lot and come to the conclusion that Ninja Gaiden 2 specifically has more combo/moves than God of War 1/2 and does it with somewhat more "style" & "pizzazz"... but that's just my opinion from some observations.

[JoySticksFTW]

Heavenly Sword's countering-system (with the ability to counter attacks dependent on the stances that you use) isn't too shabby.

Sure, you can button-mash. But, identifying attacks and switching sword styles with precise timing, mid-combat, in the middle of a crowded battlefield with tens to hundreds of enemy soldiers and a boss too trying to kill you is pretty cool when done right.

[Mainman]

Ninja Gaiden has the better fighting mechanic.

[Man_of_the_year]

Am i the only one who thinks that HHG is such a SOny Fanboy that he gets blinded from being able to see the truth?

@HHG - if you are reading this i want you to know that you are considered the JESTER on the BitBag...dude really, they are laughing at YOU!!! Your SONY fanboyism, your ignorant comments, they are laughing at you. Just listen to the podcast - i am only telling you this for your own benefit.

Either stop being on the show or quit with the major fanboyism. Seriously - they are laughing AT you not with you.

[N4360G]

Both have awesome fighting systems but for me God Of War most definitely has the better fighting system,just my opinion.

[Rhoic]

And I think it shines best in NG2.. The game revolves around the combat, and just about every time I play, I see a new combo. It's so in depth.. and not to mention how rewarding it feels when you kill off a horde of enemies. You also just feel like a Rambo Ninja Badass who can lob off heads in a flash.

[ultimolu]

I love how I get disagrees for liking both.
Just wow.

[Stryfeno2]

I will have to give the edge to God of War. Just because I love the quick time events.

[TheHater]

Because of the fact that I can grab a guy and rip him in half. Rip his arm out and then stab him with it. Grab a Harpy wings and rip them out. Stab a cyclops in the eye and cut him in half. Rip a person fricken head off. God of War combat just felt more brutal and engaging. It because of that, God of War is a lot more fun to me.

[sonarus]

GOW combat may be more fun and its definitely has more gore. I too enjoy GOW more than Ninja Gaiden but the fighting system is far ahead of any game. GOW and DMC fighting system would be a more suitable debate

[candystop]

In no way does GOW even come close to NG's fighting system. Just like in no way does NG's story come close to GOW.

Edit below: Well if you put it that way then I would agree also that GOW is much more brutal.

[TheHater]

Ninja Gaiden fighting system is way deeper than GOW fighting system. But the GOW fighting system just seem to be more brutal than the Ninja Gaiden fight system and that what make it better to me.

[sonarus]

Thats silly thats like saying Gears of War is the best third person shooter because its the most brutal. Brutal can be fun but if you don't have depth its not as good

[Spike47]

and if you look at the GOW franchise all of the games have been AAA.

And after what happened with NG2 on the xbox360, I don't think it another Ninja gaiden game will be able compete against GOW3.

[Rhoic]

What happened to NG2? It's the best in the series by far.. Also, what do reviews have to do with the combat system? In my eyes, since I've played through both.. NG > GoW in combat.

[DragonWarrior46534]

Ask this question after GOW3 comes out. I have a feeling that everyone will be saying GOW3>NG2

[Lex Luthor]

NG's combat system has always been more superior and in depth that GOW. I thought everyone knew that, the only thing i like about GOw's combat system is the QTEs.

[pshizle]

ninja gaiden is where its at!

[Rocky87]

Ninja Gaiden beats the sh!t out of Kratos ...

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Kratos kills gods.

[cjp4eva]

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[pp]

God Of War i a JOKE doesn't come close to Ninja Gaiden. Ninja Gaiden kicks ass all the way.

Anyone disagrees is a f*g.

[heyheyhey]

hey pp's back!!

how do you feel about Gears 2 not winning a single GOTY award pp?

[IzKyD1331]

it won GOTY in pp's mind, and that is good enough for the world....../sarcasm
and pp, I don't think you should say NG2 is good, considering it has one of the worst camera's I've played with in an action game

[doshey]

are f@gs because pp said if u disagree with him ur a f@g and f@gs can only call other people f@gs

so pp, ur a dipsh!t

[eagle21]

xplay named NGsigma #1 game hard game ever, even over ghost and goblins. Difficulty is high in NG. But the system is boring to me.

Kratos can't be beat in gameplay. Fun as heck!

God of War easily wins for me.

NGS for PS3 is the best NG out there.

[Foxgod]

I enjoyed God of war on my ps2 (it was one of the very few ps2 games i liked).
But the Ninja Gaiden fighting system is untouchable, The environments and enemy's may be a little boring at times in Ninja Gaiden, but that is because Team Ninja focused for 110% on the battle system, and its perfect.

[heyheyhey]

well i guess it's a good thing that PS3 owners get to experience both...... Ninja Gaiden Sigma FTW!!!!!

[heyheyhey]

Ninja Gaiden is more technical, much more technical... a lot more appealing for purists

but GoW beats NG in just about everything else.... story, presentation, set pieces, puzzles, variety, pacing.....

[Mad_Rhetoric]

NG has the best combat system. PERIOD. sorry

[eagle21]

visit IGN.

even GOW PSP outscored the hell out of NG2 and tied with Sigma at 9.4.

GOW is flawless. In the end there will be chaos!

[heyheyhey]

in the end there will ->ONLY<- be chaos!!

vengeance is all that matters!!

last game in the series... SO FVCKING EPIC!!!!!!

[IzKyD1331]

I'll admit ninja gaiden black was really awesome, but ninja gaiden 2 sucked ass

[kewlkat007]

but Ninja Gaiden is one TOUGH MOFO. You def need skills in that game.

Fighting-wise, Ninja Gaiden and Presentation-wise, GOW.

There are certain parts of NG that make even the most seasoned hardcore players cry.... no wonder casual complain a lot about NG.

It's actually Old-School Gaming Difficulty at it's best while the new Hack n slashers have too much assistance.

[heyheyhey]

one of the few games retaining a similar level of difficulty transitioning from 2D to 3D... you gotta give it props

but it's the very same reason NG will never be as big as GoW, or as fun to play

[SleekDeF]

their big now their in e3 and all these game convictions

and god of war fighting system is supurb and way superior to any fighting system

[pushergreen]

Gaiden and Black are experiences that should not be missed where as GOW's are for the gamers who prefer a more simple minded apprach to combat. NGII apart from some lame boss battles is one of my favorite titles this year, the in depth controls and full gore graphics make this title mandantory for any fighting game fan, it is brutally hard at times but no other game has given me such a sense of accomplishment as this one has. Hopefully there will be a NGIII. Maybe it will be multiplat this time around so PS3 fans won't be so butthurt, although if you are a fan of this genre GaidenII should be a system seller if you are hardcore and not afraid of challenge. GOW3= no for me it is a kiddie game compared to the Gaidens and DMCs in my opinion of course.

[Dark General]

Yes GoW's combat system isn't as deep as NG and DMC. But it apes both series in everything else. Story, characters, environments, memorable bosses etc. GoW gets difficult when you play on God/Titan mode and that's when you have to be more selective in your attacks, weapons and magic. Still not as deep as NG and DMC but it's not completely shallow like it sounds you're trying to make it. It's just not nearly as deep and engrossing as the other two.

GoW is more of a overall experience than just action heavy. The other 2's fighting system them are great. Which god of wars have you played if you don't mind me asking? Heavenly Sword you shouldn't even bother with, the combat is unrewarding. At least when you rip someone in half or something like that in GoW it feels responsive and adrenaline inducing. Heavenly Sword just doesn't have any sort of feel to it in the combat. I'm definitely looking forward to Bayonetta though.

[Dark General]

Being a HUGE fan of the action adventure genre i have to say Ninja Gaiden has the beating fighting system like people here have said. My money for best fighting system still goes to DMC3. The combo's you can pull off in that game is INSANE. It's one of the reasons i didn't like DMC4. It didn't have that same "feel" you get from pulling off a great combo while switching weapons mid connection moves.

Gow combat is more visceral and accessible, but Ninja Gaiden has the deeper system.

[mt]

are you f**king kidding me ?
Gow 1 has better fighting system than NG2 . i can't imagine what will GOW3 be when it is out ?

[DiabloRising]

You guys can argue it... I'll just go enjoy GoW, DMC, AND NG. Since you know... they are different, and "better" is subjective in this case.

[likedamaster]

Well, it's not really that difficult when you ponder the question "...Which has the better fighting system?". The question is not,"Which has the better overall experience?", or "Which has the better story?" or "which game do YOU prefer?".

If anyone's played NG2 and GoW2 then they would immediately say "NG2" definitely because overall it is better when you take "balance & depth" into account.

God of War's camera issues hasn't been "fixed" and NG2 has some issues as well but weapons in GoW2 were very unbalanced(one of the few issues I had with Gow2).

God of War's fighting system would win over any other action game EXCEPT NG2.

[xlg]

There is NO WAY Devil May Cry, God of War or any other can have a better Fighting System than Ninja Gaiden(Black & 2) right now. NG2 make your thumbs sweat! A LOT of Weapons and combos for each one of them. The Enemy AI is the most challenging RIGHT NOW. BEFORE YOU SAY THE CONTRARY PLAY THE GAME. http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Dark General]

Nice combo vids. Love the first one. But it's still not quite as good as DMC3's combo's. http://www.youtube.com/watc... that's one of the better video's. There's betters ones out there but most of their video quality is basically the same.

[xlg]

That video Sux and the combos sux a$$! Devil May Cry cant touch NG2.

[Dark General]

Wow. You sound.. A little too hard up on NG2. Both videos look good to me. In fact the nunchuku combo looks really similar to me. The video quality sucks yeah, but the combo's are insane. Wish i had a better video to show you. Trust me the combo's in DMC3 was insane. You ever play it?

[AshleyRiot]

I like both but prefer God of War for it's better presentation. Both can be pretty difficult unless you learn the different attacks and learn how to approach certain enemies. Or you can button mash them to the end which can be very frustrating but still doable. I'll give Ninja Gaiden the edge in difficulty because you have to fight the camera at the sametime you fight the enemies. Regardless when a new one for either is released it's a day 1 purchase from me.

[gameforall]

they try a different tact.

[Shane Kim]

Well duuuuh, God of War is the one and only.

[borgome]

shut your fat pie hole kimmy

[MicroFud]

Whatever xbots, you all are pathetic. God of War is undeniably the best game. NG? Yea right...

To me it doesnt even matter believe what you want but ill take God of War over NG any day of the week..

No comparison.

[Magic_The_Celt]

LMFAO

comparing God of War to Ninja Gaiden is like comparing Champagne to fizzy P*ss

[Keele]

Agreed. Champagne being Ninja Gaiden.

[i_like_ff7]

Im a bigger fan of god of war but ninja gaiden has a better fighting system then most fighting games.

[Gue1]

I like HipHopGamer and all but this time, he lost it... The only thing that separates GOD battle system from the other button mashers in the market is, as tordavis says, the QTE. -120% true.

Then HipHopGamer comes again to try make his last stand saying that GOD story is the best of any action game... But nobody's talking about that, this is all about the freaking battle system! -torvardis says

As an overall in my opinion GOD is the better game but if you just want some action game and don't care about the story then NG has the best battle system ever in an action game.

This warzone ep is getting really good. lol

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Hands down for me Ninja Gaiden has a better fighting system.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Devil May Cry has a better fighting system than either of them.

[Radiodread]

ARE F@GGOTS SHOW YOURSELVES YOU F!CKING PU$$IES.

[SONYSLAVE]

people disagree with you because you are a idiot fake fanboy.

[ASTAROTH]

How everyone seems to like NG more because its more "hardcore" or difficult, but cry like babies when they get killed by an angry Quimera!!! LOL!! Who the hell understand the press. I have Ninja Gaiden since the original NES games. I bougth an XBOX only for Ninja Gaiden, I got NG2 on my 360 and I have yet to buy the best version of them all in Ninja Gaiden Sigma. I loved the games but they are extremely frustrating and in NG2 quite boring to tell the truth. Sigma is far the superior version in graphics, sound, control ... everything. But to me the best action games of the past gen were three. In first place the GoW series, just play God mode and tell me if its hard. Devil May Cry3 is the second IMO and the third is ONIMUSHA DAWN OF DREAMS!!.

I find unfair when everybody criticiced SHINOBI on the PS2 because it was too hard then praised NG for its hard dificulties. You know not everyone of us has the free time to try again and again to beat a boss. The vast mayority of us had to work hard to bough aour games just to be frustated by its gameplay. Call me what you want but I prefer a hard but passable game. Not like the NG2 crap!!!!

[moja]

I prefer the NG combat system, though I wish the Flying Swallow wasn't so critical in succeeding. Having said that - wow, I really think the more time I spend on here the dumber I get. I never realized how eerily similar this tordavis and the revered hhg 'create' their content. Similarly structured headlines and promises of much much more. Was the hhg show stood up to so they can feed off each other or what?

[Enigma_2099]

Why not GoW to NG? or NGII to GoWII?

[Neo604]

it's pretty addicting.

[jax07]

Heavenly swords combat system is far deeper than both of these game could wish to be. Each stance holding its own combos and then being able to mix the stances gives you even more options. Not the mention the fact that you can counter being thrown and knocked down but your enemies can counter you. Hell there are enemies that can counter your counters. Not even NG can touch that level of complexity in its fighting system.

[baodeus]

@jax07

Obviously you haven't play NGblack, try and play the mission mode, see if the enemies can counter your counter or your super even. Try it you will see what i mean.

If you are just talking about fighting mechanism, you should compare DMC3 and NG2. They are very close, but i find NG2 slightly beat it because of speed and the AI. AI in NG2 is just brutal and they are out to get you..forcing you to always on the move and counter and combo etc....DMC tend to stand around for you to beat them up. That is where NG2 beat it because of the speed. Once you play NG2, fighting in DMC seem like in slow motion seriously. And don't even mention GOW fighting mechanism, it is like casting a level five slow time in fable 2.

[borgome]

Who cares, they're both 3rd person garbage hack and slashers that take absolutely zero skill to play.

[borgome]

Sir budwick.