...is this where I bring up the oft overlooked Halo 3 target video that was made with "ingame assets"... yet at a resolution, framerate, and AA level that the final game doesn't even touch?
No?
Moving on then...
In truth, I wish all 3 would keep their mouth shut and let the products speak for themselves. It's up to the talent of the dev above all else.
yes and these devs have ALOT of talent. motorstorm1 blew my mind the game was just so crazy, resistance1 didnt blow my mind graphically because i played it for the first time like 3 months ago, the game was incredible for a launch title.
the power of the ps3 delivered the first year with incredible graphics even though the devs were working with something really tricky known as the cell processor, THATS how talented sonys first party devs are.
the only game that really underdelivered was motorstorm, by far lol, it is still one of my favorite games though and i didnt see the E3 05' footage so jumping from the ps2 right to motorstorm was FRICKING AMAZING. i mean its really hard to be exact but just look at GT5p.... heavenly sword... uncharted... play these games on a 40" SONY BRAVIA and what you'll have my friend is gaming heaven....
cool video though : ) just play games MOFO's!!!!!!
well off to play some resistance2 on my new 40" SONY BRAVIA.... pce
if Motorstorm looked like that. Next goal? Make Motorstorm 3 look like that (add some NEW gameplay features too). Right now though, I'm enjoying my Motorstorm 2.
I still am having a hard time figuring out why people are so sensitive towards Sony and Microsoft. So what if one company lies? Don't tell me any of the members of n4g never lied:| Whats important is Sony has produced great unique games. We should not forget if it wasn't for Sony we still would have been playing Mario XIIIIIIII. Apart from that we shouldn't also forget if it wasn't for Microsoft, online console gaming wouldn't been a reality. Console shooters wouldn't have been a possibility. Yeah Halo 3 initial video was a lie so was Killzone 2 "target render" but whats important is we have the best looking game on consoles and that is Killzone 2 & Halo 3 multiplayer is still second only to COD4 multiplayer on xbox live. Neither Sony or Microsoft are going to pay our bills or anyone's college fees.
one person says sony lied about toy story 2 graphics. its proven and the sony attackers say so what if microsoft lied and find another reason to pic on sony.
But the GCI trailer that they showed 2005 looks better.Killzone 2 has the best graphics for console games.But they will be better looking PC games in 2009!And I must admit that they lied,but that is not the problem because every company lies.Good luck Guerilla Games...
KZ2 looks noticeably better. everything seems to have more weight to it and doesn't look as cartoony as the '05 footage. the enemies look and act more realistic. the flame thrower today looks better than any i've seen in ANY game. the overall color pallette looks richer. nope, todays KZ is much better.
forgetting Too Human, Too Early. Lair was 07, Too Human was in 08. Not to mention that the 360 is a year older than ps3, AND Too Human was in development a whole FLOP of ten years....dumba$$
how about all ur supposed "AAA" titles flopping? little big flop and resistance 2 flop of man. even arcade games sell better than the AAA titles. droids suck it
Can I ask you a question? How the hell does an idiot like you define Little Big Planet as a flop with a 95% metacritic average and with nearly 1.5 million units sold in less than 55 days on the market? Also remember the fact that it was an unproven, original IP when it hit the market. How the hell do you xbot idiots rationalize that in your minds? Seriously.
i like how u sayed "55 " days like its a standard ROFL. metacritic doesnt feed the dev's families. the amount of hype those 2 had i expected alot better sells than DLC but alas it fails.
I knew it. Whenever you losers are called out and are givin the task of defending your positions in a truly logical way, You F*cking idiots totally avoid the issue at hand. You didn't even answer my question, which just proves how f*cking ignorant and unsubstantiated you idiot's "arguments" are.
"i like how u sayed "55 " days like its a standard ROFL. metacritic doesnt feed the dev's families"
What the F*ck does feeding their families have to do with any of this?
well i can tell negative u dont have a job, if it doesnt sell then they lose money and wont do a sequel etc and its a chain... calling other fanboys losers when u urself is one of the biggest sony fanboy in this site is really hilarious.so come back when YOU come back and defend or spin in a logical way. good day.
@goflyakite then get off the internet jackass.usually people that come and bring the grammar sh1t usually cant bring anything to the table, makes them feel good.
I actually don't have a job because I am currently a full-time student at the University of Southern California. But I am majoring in Business Science and Accounting so I believe I know a little more about the subject on business revenue financials than your middle-school caliber intelligence has. But by the way you type and write out your comments, I can tell lance that you've never heard of Hooked On Phonics.
"if it doesnt sell then they lose money"
So as of now, a sales record of nearly 1.5 million units isn't considered as anything to you? Let me spell that out for you: One Point Five MILLION units sold as of the recent reporting period and concurrently steady sales numbers mean absolutely nitch to you???
With such a high 95% average of review scores, LBP is a massive CRITICAL success.
With a very respectable figure of nearly 1.5 million units sold AND COUNTING and with no dip in sales numbers currently being seen, LBP is certainly a COMMERCIAL success and nowhere near the "flop" status that you stupid kids seem to see.
As both a COMMERCIAL and CRITICAL success, how exactly do you morons rationalize your "arguments" that LBP is a flop? That is what I wanted to know.
But sometimes I forget that this website is primarily populated with stupid, immature kids that couldn't survive on there own independently for even one freaking week. Street Trash like you, lance, don't even know what "logic" is. If you did, you wouldn't have made that stupid comment up there ^ about me needing to use logic when all my comments here have all been logically sound.
With such an obvious display of retained ignorance and stubbornness I swear to God, xbot butt-buddies like lance and moreover or going to be seen 20 years from now living near freeway off-ramps washing driver's windshields for penny's and nickels.
Despite my attempts at trying to obtain some kind of a sensible answer, I have come up empty-handed. Thanks for the complete waste of time, you MS fanboys.
Trying to get any kind of a reasonable, valid response from you idiot MS fanboys is like trying to negotiate business deals with mentally-handicapped people: You may get some contacts and deals from them, but at the end of the day your still talking with f*cking retards!
No you GTFO the internet with your, "won't feed the families!" crap.
MM is doing amazing, considering how small their company is. What is LBP at right now, over a million? I'm sure they can feed their families you idiot.
Anyways I'm gonna get out of here, because regardless of what I say I'm going to get like 10 disagrees in a minute, and probably -bubbles.
yup all sony bs talk. LBP should of sold millions in a month,not f!ck1ng after 2 months with all the hype.Dont come with that schooling bs cause at the end of it all ur still a sony d1ckrider and a hypocrite.
i guess you've forgotten alan wake, SC:conviction, huxley, and halo wars. just to name a few 360 games on the delay list. all devs have delays once in a while. that isn't necessarily lies.........it's just the nature of the game design business.
Gears2, delayed. Fable II, delayed. Halo 3 Delayed. Left 4 Dead, delayed. Forza 2, delayed. Bioshock, delayed. NXE, delayed. MotoGP, delayed. GTA4 DLC, delayed. Fable II DLC, delayed. And on and on it goes.
What's that saying about people who live in glass houses?
Alan Wake shows game footage in the next couple of months, it is vapourware OR multiplat. That is the only way to explain the....lack (understatement) of gameplay video or screenshots. Not to mention, last video they showed, it was running on PC, not 360.
Most definitely... Heavenly Sword has some amazing facial animation, and characters that truly show emotion. Not to mention Bohan was friggin hilarious...
Unfortunately I remember a while back Ninja Theory saying that there will not be a sequel... Quite unfortunate if you ask me..
Quite unfortunate is a bit of understatement. I enjoyed playing HS almost as much as i enjoyed Uncharted or MGS4, so no sequel to it is way more than unfortunate if you ask me
In the video IGN says Sony hasn't fully delivered on their promises and then goes on to say that if ps3 games look as good as killzone2, who's going to complain?
That final statement is a long way away from saying 'sony lies' and actually ends upbeat. As a result I'm a little surprised by some of the very unreasonable and inarticulate arguments and words being thrown around in this thread.
Breakfast - your opening comment ... you really believe what you wrote or you just write things like that to get some attention? I'm truly flummoxed
Owner of x360 since launch, owner of ps3 since launch and so far i`ve been much more impressed with the ps3. That`s not saying that the x360 is rubbish, just that the ps3 had more impressive games over a less period of time. Any hardcore gamer will know that to experience true next gen gaming one must own both consoles.
I bought a 360 at launch, and thought it was the best gaming platform I'd seen. I bought a PS3 when they made the first price drop, and from the first game I loaded up it proved itself as a marginally better console than the 360. The PS3 is going from strength to strength.
It really really bothers me seeing all the hate the PS3 is getting lately.. ill tell you why.. the Wii gets a completly free pass on having the crappiest game library probably in the history of gaming and noone on here even bats a eye. Yes Sony has made some big mistakes but you know what, they have more than made up for it. 2 years ago everyone complained and moaned that the PS3 had no good games so sony releases amazing games this year and some last year but its not enough.. all these media journalist are still saying "but but teh PS3 still overpriced but but teh E3 2005 sony lied" give it a rest already..
If you think about it, the PS3 is the most improved console and the console that has evolved the most out of the big 3.. look how far the PSN has advanced in the last 2 years, everything from ingame XMB to Home to the awesome selection of movies in the PSN store for download and tons tons of demos and game content on the gaming side of the PSN store. look at ALL the great games.. Uncharted, LBP,Motorstorm PR, MGS4, Resistance 2, Heavenly Sword among other titles.. Look at the amazing 2009 game line up!
Why cant you guys just forgive sony.. Yes sony has said some stupid things and made stupid mistakes, yes they might have got carried away with the initial Hype of the PS3 but you know what. Atleast they are trying hard, releasing great games, constantly improving the PSN and really looking toward the future.. Whats the wii doing?! what games does the Wii have in 09?! what great games did the Wii have this year?! why doesnt the Wii get crapped on?! Atlesat the PS3 has some reall honest to goodness great games coming out and that have already came out!
I like playing a great looking game as much as the next person, but I also love playing a FUN game too. I still play Super Mario 3, Super Metroid, Crono Trigger/FF3 PS bundle because they are FUN and immersive games. I don't care if Microsoft or Sony shows target renders as long as the final product delivers. A game that looks as good as Killzone 2 isn't a good game unless people have fun playing it and there we run into the age old argument of graphics aren't everything... which I agree with.
Really, stop worrying about the he said/she said BS because all it's really used for is to create hype and hopefully sell games. Only fanboys and other non hardcore gamers get caught up in target renders and other marketing hype. It's getting ridiculous what people argue about these days...
No doubt in my mind that, as with the PS1 and PS2 eras, the PS3 target renders will be surpassed. Killzone 2 already looks slightly better than its CG trailer from E3 2005. I think Motorstorm would've gotten there already if it wasn't for the 4-way split screen multiplayer. But still, Part 2 looks really good regardless.
What some people fail to remember is that Sony's E3 '05 footage was designed to do one thing only... Take the limelight off the 360 launch.
Anyone who thought the PS3 was really going to launch with 2 HDMI ports, 3 network ports, and the ability to run games in 1080p at 120FPS were suckers.
The target footage is the same deal. Sony needed to deflect attention from the 360.
Does anyone even remember what Microsoft did at E3 '05? All the talk was about the PS3.
At the time I thought Sony were a disgrace for deceiving consumers - but in hindsight it was a pretty smart marketing ploy.
Yeah, Sony didn't live to up to some promises on graphics, but at least the games still have better graphics than the shtty60.
I mean what's 360 got? Gears maybe, we got Heavenly Sword, Uncharted and Killzone that are better looking and then Resistance that has better online, and is a better game, even said by IGN. (By the way, don't mention the review as they were done by two different people, who's scoring criteria is different and probably have slightly different opinoins on shooters, so basically the comparison is defunct unless it was done by the same reviewer).
After having better looking games, who's the failure?
The Killzone demo was 3 1/2 years ago! The game is STILL not out yet. So it SHOULD look great, especially knowing they had to live up to the tech demo!
And last I checked, the best looking games aren't usually the best PLAYING games! Lair <cough-cough>.
Graphics for PS3 are great enough.Gameplay on all consoles needs to grow up more than the visual tech though and i'd trade in these graphics for more advanced gameplay to the point that i'd be happy with xbox1 graphics
Games are on the whole better than they used to be but very little this side has progressed really
Lol at the Motostorm trailer, we were all mugs to believe that for even a second
Hopefully this game plays as good as it looks. I didnt play the Beta.
PS: Breakfast welcome to my ignore list. Also minues one bubble.
...is this where I bring up the oft overlooked Halo 3 target video that was made with "ingame assets"... yet at a resolution, framerate, and AA level that the final game doesn't even touch?
No?
Moving on then...
In truth, I wish all 3 would keep their mouth shut and let the products speak for themselves. It's up to the talent of the dev above all else.
the only game that really underdelivered was motorstorm, by far lol, it is still one of my favorite games though and i didnt see the E3 05' footage so jumping from the ps2 right to motorstorm was FRICKING AMAZING. i mean its really hard to be exact but just look at GT5p.... heavenly sword... uncharted... play these games on a 40" SONY BRAVIA and what you'll have my friend is gaming heaven....
cool video though : ) just play games MOFO's!!!!!!
well off to play some resistance2 on my new 40" SONY BRAVIA.... pce
I still am having a hard time figuring out why people are so sensitive towards Sony and Microsoft. So what if one company lies? Don't tell me any of the members of n4g never lied:|
Whats important is Sony has produced great unique games. We should not forget if it wasn't for Sony we still would have been playing Mario XIIIIIIII.
Apart from that we shouldn't also forget if it wasn't for Microsoft, online console gaming wouldn't been a reality. Console shooters wouldn't have been a possibility.
Yeah Halo 3 initial video was a lie so was Killzone 2 "target render" but whats important is we have the best looking game on consoles and that is Killzone 2 & Halo 3 multiplayer is still second only to COD4 multiplayer on xbox live. Neither Sony or Microsoft are going to pay our bills or anyone's college fees.