Wii copies 360 with NEC eDRAM

The Nintendo Wii will use the same NEC eDRAM for its graphics processing as the Xbox 360, NEC has revealed today.

10MB of fast RAM, embedded in the graphics chip, allows enough buffer space for anti-aliasing to be added to graphics 'for free'.

[OutLaw]

People better keep an eye on Nintendo. Their system sounds more stronger than they are letting us know about.

[TheMART]

The Wii and 360 are the only ones with this bufferram which makes a very good datatransport from the GPU with 256GB ps, Sony stays behind with shared 512 main memory by CPU & GPU devided without this embedded Ram

Oh yep for sure Sony is loosing this battle on the Wii60

[Killswitch]

I had just psted up a story i recieved from a partner. And the graphics was amazing, they have something up there sleeves and when it's all said and done we will be in a state of shock. Nintendo have a game coming out to where you can make a person, you become the person,and you are the person thats why their adding a camara to their joy stick. Believe me people it's gonna be huge!!! oh yeah and i ain't talking about the sim's

[Lucidmantra]

Heres my responce in your so called NEWS ARTICLE.

yeah and a posted pic of Crysis (not confirmed yet for anything but PC). Someone please take this guys life before he infects my human genepool with his inferior strain. Nintendo has said time and again they are interested in innovation over graphics this generation. Their Hollywood and Broadway CPU/GPU are not anywhere near as good as the Cell/RSX and Waternoose/C1 and they don't want to be about the race to the fastest best graphics. They want the Wiimote controller to speak for itself and bring innovation to the way we play games.

That doesn't mean at all it will not have decent graphics. But it isn't about that with them. Enough to aid the immesion they want you to have with the Wiimote controller waving it around and stuff.

[OutLaw]

Your article was all whacked out. You had no site to confirm your news and your writing didn't make sense. You just put what you thought that should be news and try to submit it. It is not done that way. I would be very shocked if they post it.

Don't think I'm trying to get on you. I just didn't understand what you was trying to prove.

[Marriot VP]

give me stats and price SOON. They really have to tell us in the next month at least. 6 months away, what are you guys afraid of.

[Gh0stDrag0n]

Looks like the Wii will be the "trojan horse" in this gen. of consoles.

[Lucidmantra]

It would be funny if Nintendo did trick Sony and MS though and played the Possum and rolled over playing dead and then blew em away. But with the size of the system I don't see it having the power. The system board for the Gamecube was lonely and small but DAMN how could they pack something along the lines of PS3 and XB360 into a box half their size. We shall see though. Nintendo is playing it very very quiet. Almost scary quiet.

And where is the power brick for this system?? It must be huge too.

[kingboy]

i don`t want kiddy games 24/7

[OutLaw]

http://www.kotaku.com/gamin...

[GrimFang4]

Since when is it called "copying" when a company (ATI) sells two similar products to two different customers (MS + Nintendo)? That title is misleading.

I don't agree with the author about anti-aliasing, either. There is a gigantic difference on a computer monitor. There will be at least a big difference on a TV, whether or not it is HD. AA was not invented for HD.

[Lucidmantra]

The C1 and Hollywood were developed by 2 completely different teams that had no communication with each other. I know there was a situation with the CPU or GPU on the 360 where a guy was fired immediately for emailing across the teams. You are dealing with companies that are in competition with each other, they are most definately not sharing information between the teams. Nintendo and Microsoft have stated that about the gfx chipsets.

[GrimFang4]

I'm not talking about the teams or any communication between them. Who cares? The point is that the company that makes them has the access to the technology involved. Since this is such good technology to have on a console chip, then why wouldn't both teams independently opt for it?

[Lucidmantra]

DUde the schematics for the chips in the Xb360 belongs to Microsoft. They leased ATI engineers to execute the plans. Try reading up a little. They did it so that they aren't tied to ATI to manufacture the chips they can use like Taiwan Semiconductor, or any number of other companies to make the chips for way cheaper than ATI would. MS owns the plans to the C1. not ATI. That was a lesson they learned on the xbox1.

[Marriot VP]

could someone post what stats we do know of the Wii.

[Lucidmantra]

best thing is wikipedia which says...
Processors:
* CPU: IBM PowerPC processor codenamed "Broadway" (made with a 90 nm SOI CMOS process[2])
* GPU: ATI "Hollywood" (made with a 90 nm CMOS process, [24])
Memory:
* 1T-SRAM[25] (made with a 90 nm CMOS-compatible eDRAM technology by NEC Electronics[26])
* Unknown Amount
Ports and peripheral capabilities:
* Up to Four Wii Remote controllers (connected wirelessly via Bluetooth)
* One SD memory card slot[2][24]
* Two USB 2.0 ports
* One Sensor Bar port
* Four Nintendo GameCube controller ports
* Two Nintendo GameCube memory card ports
* Compatible with optional USB 2.0 Ethernet LAN adaptor
Storage:
* 512 MB built-in flash memory
* Expansion available via SD card memory and USB mass storage[11]
* Slot-loading disc drive compatible with:
o 12cm Wii optical disc (4.7 GB Single layer or 8.7 GB Dual Layer)
o 8cm GameCube optical disc
o DVD Video (optional additional purchase)
* Virtual Console games accessed from flash memory
Built-in content ratings systems:
* PEGI, ESRB, CERO, and OFLC
Networking:
* Wi-Fi by Broadcom
* Standardized Bluetooth by Broadcom
Video:
* Up to 480p[27] and will work with a computer monitor as well as any TV or projector[27]
* Component (including Progressive scan), composite or S-Video output
* 16:9 support
Audio:
* Main: Stereo - Dolby Pro Logic II-capable[28]
* Controller: Built-in speaker

[shotty]

There were rumors that the CPU was clocked around the 700+ Mhz level.

[96impala]

Man, so many people put down the 360 which is a great system as far as im concerned but they give all this credit to the wii. But to be honest if you look at the specs of the wii, it'll be just about the same as the original xbox, and will output at 480p, and all the games will be on dvd's. Now that's not a bad thing by anymeans and i know that the developers are going to do a great job but, The 360 is a way more powerful and capable machine so why is it so hated?