Bungie officially joined PS family

PlayStation tweets :"The agreement to acquire Bungie has closed. So now we can officially say… welcome to the PlayStation family, @Bungie! "

[darthv72]

I'd love to see bungie make a new Marathon or Oni.

[roadkillers]

Does Rockstar or Bungie own Oni? I found both answers online…

[blacktiger]

I think Bungie owns it, regardless if they do, THEN ONI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KillBill]

Take Two. They got Oni for their 19.9% stake they held in Bungie in 2000 when Bungie went to Microsoft. They also got Myth franchise in the mix.

[gamer7804]

Oni would be great but I think they’ll be stuck making destiny and tools for other live service games

[SoulWarrior]

Almost 3 billion to continue to develop games for the main rival, still just seems like a mind boggling and agreement on that there.

[LOGICWINS]

Its also 3 billion towards making live-service games that no one in the Playstation community asked for.

I'd be amazing if Bungie worked on Killzone and Resistance reboots, but that's wishful thinking.

This deal was done primarily to make "Fortnite-style" games that provide consistent revenue streams that single-player only games don't.

[Obscure_Observer]

"Its also 3 billion towards making live-service games that no one in the Playstation community asked for."

Wonder where you´d get such information since Playstation is the home for such big online gaming communities such Microsoft´s Minecraft.

[SurgicalMenace]

Who said no one asked for it? It amazes me how many of you speak as though you have access to the entire community. Your opinion nor mine doesn't matter outside of where they lead our decisions concerning our level of support. Please try to refrain from believing that billion dollar corporations make decision haphazardly. Why not cater to a group of people that have shown that they are willing to support live service games? You may not care for them but Sony's not concerned about you if their decisions aren't altered by your opened disapproval. Until you're in a position to where they're calling you before a move is made, your opinion is just a communication that can be dismissed as easily as it can be communicated.

[Shikoku]

Sugicalmenace must have never worked at any billion dollar companies, they make haphazard decision and knee jerk moves all the time and even when their own people are sounding the alarm that it's the wrong move, they will forge ahead lose millions blame others and lay people off happens every day.
Lastly he is a consumer of their products he has every right and does anyone to comment and communicate his disapproval, were you even around during the whole xbone fiasco for Microsoft? That is literally an example of the community of people sounding off their disapproval of the product and the billion dollar company ignoring them forging ahead hoping the disapproval didn't pick up steam so their wrong decision wouldn't have to be changed and they lost and reversed course. Public disapproval and the ability to talk about share it and post it online and every consumers right and the only real way we have to fight back against said companies.

[jznrpg]

There is a very large community of people who play Destiny . I played the first one and it was pretty good but I just don’t have the attention span with the current state of my life to play these types of games . Maybe when I retire I’ll consider them more if done well. To say nobody asked is crazy .
Do the single player only people ask for it ? Of course not , but there are a lot of people who play both or mostly online and they will cater to those people too.
If it helps fund more single player games I don’t mind it at all.
They also talked about movies and other stuff with Bungie not sure what’s going to come of it but that’s also part of the deal .
I don’t really like GaaS as a whole but Destiny 1 was the best one that I’ve tried just don’t have the time or patience for it currently .

[ChubbyBlade]

Yet all the most played games are live service games lol

[SurgicalMenace]

You see you guys are always up in arms as though someone's stating that you can't express your disapproval, but fail to explore that they can equally be dismissed or ignored out right. This is true for any of us no matter how much you may not agree.

[-Foxtrot]

I'd get it if the plan was for a second team at Bungie to make a new IP which would be a "spiritual" successor to Halo, a new franchise with a captivating single player and a great multiplayer like the old school days but to continue Destiny...it's just sad, I don't see myself as a gamer / consumer benefiting from this at all. I hope that changes and I'm wrong but if Destiny didn't grip me and Destiny 2 didn't then Destiny 3 won't or something similar.

They need to make a new IP, something more single player focused.

[Obscure_Observer]

"They need to make a new IP, something more single player focused."

Forget it. Sony didn´t bought Bungie for single player games. They done it for GaaS.

Bungie is indeed working on a new IP. Matter. But from what is known, it´s far from a single player focused experience.

[SurgicalMenace]

Let me get this straight, your argument is that because they're not making games that cater to your tastes they are in need of your invaluable advice on how to be successful? Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Bungie's contributions allowed them to work with some of the leading companies in the industry? Of all their achievements, which by your instruction has garnered them the most acclaim? Self-important much? Grossly overvalued one's own opinion, huh?

Please let us all know the next time that you've got Sony or Bungie on the line, as I'm sure that we've all got a thing or two to suggest as well. Might I ask, what is it that you do to have landed so high in the peaking order? Inquiring minds and all....

[Crows90]

@surgical

Pretty sure the only argument is that he individually doesn't see value in this acquisition for himself.

Nothing wrong with that.

[Obscure_Observer]

@SoulWarrior

Not nearly mind boggling as Microsoft´s 68.7 billion acquisition to continue and develop games for Playstation.

[Eonjay]

Neither are mind boggling. Microsoft isn't stupid. They aren't going to spend $68 billion and then cut the earning potential of the main get in half. That's preposterous. Same goes for Bungie.

[ocelot07]

More platforms more money to earn. Why not keep making the money off Xbox players who spend on destiny microtransactions? They would he really stupid not to.

[Shane Kim]

Because Sony knows fanboy wars don't generate them money. But selling their games to most people will.

[VenomCarnage89]

@soulwarrior
What is mind boggling about the fact that sales are sales, regardless of which platform the money came from? Do you think Sony spends just for PlayStation fanboys to nut? They spend in order to turn a profit. Might as well have said
"I can't see why they spent 3 billion in order to make 3 billion + eventually"
It's just a nonsensical statement

[garryxcs]

Microsoft bought Mojang for $2.5 billion and you can still play Minecraft on Playstation, its not "mind boggling" its business and both companies do it.

[crazyCoconuts]

Maybe it's a bargaining chip in case MS wants to lock up Call of Duty...

[P_Bomb]

The new Cold War? Everyone play nice or it gets the mutually assured destruction.

[crazyCoconuts]

Right...Prisoners dilemma

[Tedakin]

I mean MS is paying 70 billion to continue to put games on Playstation...

[Lightning77]

Seems like Sony and MS are buying studios for the insurance and keeping the lights on for these companies. Rather than making exclusives out of multiplatform ips.

[Lifexline]

I agree that whole deal made no sense for 3 billion it was a waste of money not worth it at all. Yes they made halo but they don’t have the rights to that. Destiny that’s it. Just seemed like a desperate move. Not worth it at all.

[Crows90]

You forget that they also have the best talent fro making really solid and incredible fps gunplay

[roadkillers]

Mojang says hi. Great business decision.

[mkis007]

Got to get that return on investment. What do you think would make MS more money? Games pass on xbox and pc or gamespass on anything that could run or stream the games? (It's Rhetorical)

[kenpachi]

Waste of money and time

[Rimeskeem]

Kind of like your comment

[kayoss]

Why is it a waste? Destiny 2 is still played by millions. Eventhough the game is multiplatform, Sony will still make money from it. In addition, now Bungie have a good reason to make destiny 2 content exclusively for the PlayStation. The acquisition by Sony, will hopefully allow Bungie to branch out to different IPs instead of just Destiny 2. It’s a win win for everyone and the players. Remember, Sony is lacking in the shooter department, With bungie’s help. They can probably make more shooters that can be competitive to the likes of COD or battlefield or even Fortnite.

[tay8701]

not a waste of money dude. they are going to make sony ALOT of money. their expertise in gaas games is going to crucial to the 12 1st party gaas games slated to be released in the next few yrs.

[KillBill]

Expertise in gaas games? They have made a total of ONE gaas game. Destiny. They own 2 IPs... Marathon and Destiny. wow... 3 Billion? lol

[Orchard]

I would’ve much preferred that they buy Konami (or their IPs) or Square than this.

3bn dollars on Bungie is a waste.

[-Foxtrot]

Konami is needed because they just aren't doing anything with the IPs

Square...I'm not sure, if they still had Tomb Raider, Hitman, Just Cause etc than totally but at this point if they HAD to buy a publisher I'd rather it be Capcom.

[darthv72]

MS spent nearly the same on Minecraft / Mojang. and look how well that turned out. Im sure Bungie will bring a huge return on investment to Sony. Destiny is a big $$ maker not to mention any other projects they may have waiting in the wings.

[VenomUK]

@DarthMarvin I sincerely believe Minecraft has been Xbox’s best acquisition. It allows for traditional gaming at a less intense pace as well as creativity. In the gaming market we all know popular franchises can lose popularity, by comparison Minecraft is an evergreen and timeless game that will likely always have new customers with every generation of children. It requires a Microsoft log in. So it’s almost guaranteed to strengthen Microsoft in the long term. Since the acquisition it’s generated approximated $2.5 billion in revenue, pre tax and excluding development costs so Microsoft will make its money back.

https://www.businessofapps....

[shinoff2183]

I actually agree with you. They wouldve done better by buying one of those companies. Capcom square konami maybe made a push for sega.

[gangsta_red]

Sony has more than enough developers making single player games, them buying Konami or Square would be redundant. Their whole reason these last couple of purchases is expanding into areas they seriously lack in, live game services, multiplayer focused games.

They need games that generate money yearly with a player base that can potentially grow year to year. Bungie is a developer that has more than enough experience for this.

[TheColbertinator]

@gangsta red

Excellent comment that cuts right to the point and makes valid assessments without being condescending. Unfortunately you are the only one who had such a comment here.

[Destiny1080]

bungie is actually a great purchase because it counter acted microsofts Activision deal and it didn't cost 70 billion

[Imalwaysright]

Please explain how exactly is this deal is even comparable with Activision's purchase?

[garryxcs]

When that MTX money rolls in from xbox users it won't feel like a "waste" for Sony.

[oldenjon]

No, Sony doesn’t need Japanese developers to compete with Microsoft. It needs large scale western developer acquisitions. Bungie a huge win for them. Microsoft still hasn’t matched the quality of their Halo titles (with any of their first party titles really) after years of trying.

[SurgicalMenace]

Man, what sector of the business industry do either of you find your professions in? Both Orchard and Foxtrot, you both seem to only base what you think around yourselves instead of seeing the entire market. What either of you would rather happen doesn't matter, as neither of you are in position nor are providing capital to fund said preferences. This is the reality of the matter, nothing more, nothing less.

[ChubbyBlade]

Yea buying the studio that made 2 hit franchises and made billions is a bad buy lol

[tay8701]

konami would have been a huge overspend. their studios are next to worthless. they have some great dormant IPs, no way am i spending 6 billion to get MGS, castlevania and silent hill though.

[John_McClane]

Bungie hasn't been relevant in a long, long time.

[Orchard]

@John Pretty much. Most PS gamers (myself included) didn’t even care for Bungie/Destiny before this acquisition.

I could name a whole bunch of studios I’d rather buy ahead of Bungie.

[derek]

@Orchard I'm convinced Sony is in the process of buying Square if they haven't already.

[Orchard]

I am convinced too. I believe that is what was behind the sudden selling off of their more western themed games recently.

Now that Bungie and Haven are closed out, we might see some movement.

[Obscure_Observer]

Congratulations, Jim Ryan and the Team Playstation!

Bungie is made of amazing developers and masters of their craft. Quality will definitely continue to improve at Playstation Studios, which is great for everyone.

[Eonjay]

Have to agree with you on this one. I can't see anything negative about this for any party. Bungie wins because they have have the backing of a huge publisher who will basically let them do what they want including new projects and their media projects. All players win because Bungie will make games for all platforms. Sony wins because they will profit from Bungies sales and they finally have a world class dev that can make popular FPS games.

[SegaSaturn669]

Hopefully we get more free to play games where I can pay money for stronger weapons to compensate for my lack of skill.

[Elda]

Nice.

[VerminSC]

Ugh, you can keep them. Hate grind fest games

[Godmars290]

So from MS to Activision to Sony.

So, counting the two or so indies they put out, fourth times the charm?

[Obscure_Observer]

"So from MS to Activision to Sony."

Bungie was never owned by Activision.

[SonyStyled]

You are correct. Bungie had a 10yr publishing contract with Activision after disbanding from Microsoft Game Studios as a first party studio. Bungie disbanded from the Activision publishing deal after 8 years of Destiny.

It’s still MS to Activision to Sony though

[kayoss]

Hopefully Sony can provide more support to Bungie and help them take over maintaining the Destiny’s IP. While Bungie focus on different IPs. They have too much talent to just focusing on just a single IP.

[northpaws]

I like diversity, my favourite genre of games are third person adventure games, which Sony has tons of studios for, it is always good to have talents.

It is either they develop a live service game separately, or they put live service crap in your favourite games, what do you prefer?

[moriarty1889]

Welcome Bungie. May this be a long and successful union.

[hennessey86]

Imagine telling an Xbox fan around the time of Halo 3 that Bungie would one day belong to Sony. Can't wait to see what they come up with

[Aloymetal]

Cool.

[DrDoomer]

What a weird timeline.

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

Time to show off the ps5 with a great multiplayer exclusive 🤗 *in five years

[ALMGNOON]

low key I was hoping the deal would fail because Sony clearly overspent here and the money should be spent on other studios but hey let's see what they make of it !

[derek]

I believe 1.7 billion of the price is to retain employees through bonuses etc.

[purple101]

You are correct

[ocelot07]

Don't get why live service games get so much hate. Like off Fortnite is a live service game and that's fun and you don't have to spend a single penny on it. Same goes for games like PUBG and Destiny. Yes their are also some terrible live service games as well.

But just because a game is a live service game it shouldn't automatically get hate.

[CrimsonWing69]

Aside from the 2 popular Battle Royale games and MMOs, what are good GaaS games?

[ocelot07]

Warframe
Destiny 2
Dota 2
GTA online
Warzone
Counter strike
Rainbow six siegeff realm reborn

[fan_of_gaming]

It would be nice if Sony can help Bungie find a way to get the removed story content back into Destiny 2

[F0XHOUND]

nice, now this is finalised we can hopefully hear news of a potential square enix/capcom deal.

[frostypants]

This timeline is so weird.

[CRASHBASHUK]

so are they now a 1st or 2nd or 3rd party dev?

[Imalwaysright]

1st party.

[MadLad]

How are they 1st party?
You own them, but the games get offered on other platforms.
Even second party means they pay to keep your current projects on only their hardware.

Sony is just bankrolling them.

[masterfox]

since is now part of Sony , how about insomniac give the oportunity to Bungie and let them continue the Resistance franchise just saying, or about Haze " The Halo Killer" :D, I mean Imsoniac is pretty busy with SpiderMan 2, and Wolverine atm.

[spoonard]

This is the equivalent of watching the weather report say a sunny was going to happen, and then calling a press conference when it does.

[Knightofelemia]

Only time will tell how Sony utilizes Bungie. Personally I would rather see Sony grab up Square, the gaming division of Konami since the are more focused on pachinko machines, or even Capcom or Sega.

[sourOG]

“If you’re not trying to find a way to add monetization into your games then you’re an idiot” - unity guy

[RetroCaptainSteve]

Considering all the problematic employees that work at Bungie...this isn't good news.

[ironmonkey]

Problematic? Dude this isn't Activision where the boss was touching people. That's problematic. Worse still under investigation. Bungiw is doing absolutely fine and making big bucks just from destiny 2 alone.

[Lionsguard]

This acquisition still makes no sense to me and just seems like they way overpaid.

[John_McClane]

I think Sony did it because Microsoft was spending big bucks and they didn't want to be upstaged.

[MadLad]

Sony's largest gaming purchase all to just have assistance in some sort of GaaS future they're apparently aiming for.

[CrimsonWing69]

GaaSy

[Gameseeker_Frampt]

Such a panic buy. I guess having your stock value drop 13% after the Microsoft/Activision deal will do that to a company. It is amusing to see some out there now think Destiny 2 and Bungie are some of the greatest things in the industry.