God of War Ragnarok PS5 Resolution and Frame Rate Detailed

God of War Ragnarok will go live for pre-order tomorrow July 15 and details around the PS5 resolution have been revealed through the Store promotional material.

[darthv72]

Id love to get a steelbook edition without having to get the hammer.

[Double_O_Revan]

Yea, there's a big gap in the market releases. I would like something similar to what they did for Horizon: FW. Something around $80-90 with a steelbook and some extras. Nothing too fancy. Just a nice shelf piece.

[jBlakeeper]

That’s what I want also. I don’t see why that isn’t an option when it was for HFW. They likely think it will make people spring for the fancier edition. But they are underestimating how much a lot of people still care about having a physical disc.

[RosweeSon]

Yeah those ones are normally best to go for these days if want the steelbook at least get a nice lil package and some bonus dlc normally. Just a shame a few retailers wanna charge extra £10/20 for the steelbook 😏✌🏻

[Bobertt]

The steelbook doesn't even have a disc the editions with the hammer got rid of the disc.

[CobraKai]

Right. So lame. Why have a disc case if they’re only giving a digital code?

[LamerTamer]

No buy for me. Sony recently pulled 100's of movies from their digital library, and Ubi pulled an Assassin's creed game so even if you bought it it is no longer accessible. With digital YOU DON'T OWN IT! It is just a long term rental. No thanks. Digital media can disappear at any time and you have nothing you can do about it.

[VenomCarnage89]

@lamertamer
It sounds like you just read the headlines and move right on. That Assassin's Creed thing is proven incorrect click bait.

But my question to you is, what do you do about your physical copies after the disc sh*ts itself?

[-Foxtrot]

It's a shame, Sony first party games have always had a slip case with a steelbook included along with a mini artbook, the limited edition basically.

Why they aren't doing it here is insane, it's another push against physical discs as these limited editions would at least include a disc version.

[shinoff2183]

I dont think sony is doing it like o well screw physical media. Sony was the first to let these limited companies make games physically with low print runs. Nintendo did after sony was letting it be done and xbox wants like 75000 minium for a print run. I believe ive read that about xbox. Ive seen sony print runs going as low as 1000 copies.

That alone i dont think sonys at war with physical media. The gow thing is a dumb decision by whoever made it but i dont think the company as a whole is the issue

[fr0sty]

I was disappointed that this game wasn't much better looking than the PS4 GOW... another game held back by cross-gen.

[RosweeSon]

Some steelbooks are really nice but they become a bit of a joke these days. They literally gave them away with brand new copies (and some place still do entirely for free) now they are sold as extras and people pay £20/50 for them it’s madness 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣 ✌🏻

[Neonridr]

I'd love to get a steelbook with an actual game to put in it :/

[darthv72]

Well... preorders are up and against my better judgement I ordered the CE. It says it comes with a voucher for both. So does that mean I can install the 4 on my Pro and give the 5 to my son (for his digital 5)? Then I can pick up a cheap 5 disc for the steelbook (to use on my disc 5). $200... ehh. The extra $60 for the Jotnar, which really amounts to different dice and a cloth map, wasnt really worth the extra $$ to me.

edit: i guess its just one code for either version. Well okay then.

[masterfox]

pretty sure the PS5 can handle easely full HD, high fidelity, and ray tracing all together running in a lock 60 fps, they should add an option like that imo.

[rpvenom]

I was going to disagree but then I realized you wrote HD, not 4k. Woops

[GoodGuy09]

I mean he's basically saying max visuals with raytracing, 60fps, at1080p which I find nothing wrong. At native 4k, I don't think the ps5 can do 60fps at those settings...

Even the top tier pc GPUs can barely handle max visuals, raytracing, 4k native at 60fps on modern AAAs, you'd need dlss also to get 60.

The ps5 will run the game fine and it'll look great. It'll have options for performance or visuals. And I don't think they've even confirmed ray tracing for the game?

[jznrpg]

I’d bet they add some other graphical options like Guerilla did with Forbidden West after launch . I’m sure they are focusing on polish and releasing the game first . I will try out both modes they offer and make my decision from there . Each game is different and I’ve noticed that I don’t always choose the same setting . Whatever looks and runs best “in my eyes” is what I choose and sometimes 30fps wins . Not always but sometimes . I don’t care what the numbers are just how it feels and looks to me . Depends on the game really .

[Binarycode]

PS5 should be able to do 1440p @ 60fps with RT.

Early days yet. Old engines built for old tech. Takes time to adapt. I'm looking forward to see what Upgrades Naughty Dog have done to their engine for Just PS5 Games.

[Tacoboto]

We've got 4K30 and Dynamic4K60 mentioned, oh-please let there be the new PS Gold-Standard 40hz and unlocked VRR modes

[alb1899]

You will get 4k 30fps and with the PS5 pro they will make a remaster 4k 60fps with Ray Tracing at 70 dollars.....there you have it.

[Tacoboto]

Can't wait for that announcement article to complain about Sony only to preorder the most expensive version *Standards leaves the chat*

[DarXyde]

Why would you remaster a game that can run 60fps with dynamic 4K? Would it not automatically upscale at a locked 4K wherever possible provided that the hardware has the grunt for it (which would very likely be the case with a 5P)? Moreover, it's pointless if it can use the latest FSR because it would probably feature a 120fps mode, so why are we talking about 60fps for a prospective Pro console?

[alb1899]

Darxyde,
In a logic World things will goes as you say but that logic World doesn't work for a grab all money you can company. Remember what I'm saying, with the PS5 pro there will be a new version of the game 4k, 60 to 120fps and Ray Tracing. Why? Because that's the way SONY works and the fans support that with their wallets.

[DarXyde]

alb1899,

Let's say, for argument's sake, that comes to pass. Or rather, it is advertised as such. That would be consistent with Sony's tendency of late to do something anti-consumer.

Fair enough.

But in such an instance, I would actually expect that their fans DON'T support this and Sony will catch tremendous heat for it, prompting them to reverse course and offer a free patch to existing owners.

Playstation is my favorite platform... And I have my gripes with Sony. That said, I can appreciate their sensitivity to criticism. Since this generation started, they've been testing the waters with what they can get away with and the fans have been good at slapping them down.

In other words, even if they try to charge for an updated version, it's unconscionable that it will come to pass.

I think you sell the PlayStation community a bit short. The reason their games are such grand experiences is because their fans are content at best and hostile at worst. I think Xbox fans are easily led into acceptance on a number of things (XBL withstanding) because they see the value in the subscription service of XGP, but it also means Microsoft effectively has carte blanche to release WIPs. Nintendo's fans are often of the mentality that Nintendo games come with a certain level of prestige and support practices unquestioningly.

To be fair, PlayStation also has the biggest tent, so their fans being the most vocal makes a lot of sense.

[swize]

yes , 40fps was great in Horizon FW . Let it be the standard from now on . Ditch 30fps altogether .

[RevXM]

So how is 40 fps going to work out for people who have hdmi 2.0 or older tvs?

I hear only great things about 40 fps, but I dont think adoption of 120/vrr tv's is widespread enough to justify ditching 30 just yet.
Id be SOL with my lg B7 if the game didnt also have a 60fps mode.

[jznrpg]

They obviously shouldn’t ditch 30fps . That would be stupid . Adding more modes is ideal but take time and money . I don’t think they will after launch but it may not be exactly what random people want . More options the better though .
I’m not going to wait to play this I’ve waited long enough .

[EvertonFC]

Full of Ads;

"Based on this information, it has been found that there will be two render modes in the game. One will allow the game to render at native 4K with 30 FPS performance. The other mode will allow the game to run at a dynamic 4K resolution with 60 FPS performance"

[andy85]

Sounds good to me. Never get the issue with dynamic. No one's telling the difference unless you have 2 monitors side by side. Much rather more stuff going on on screen and having it dynamic.

[isarai]

Depends on the game, not that uncommon that it makes an image just soft enough to make my eyes feel like they are constantly out of focus.

[StarkR3ality]

depends what the lower end res is, if it's like 1440p+ like a lot of games that's fine. the problem is there has been some instances where the perforamnce mode on some games are barely above 1080p. Dying light 2 and Valhalla for example, unoptimised to fuck examples but you get those games on a Full 4K 65inch display like me and they look terrible. Like staring through a glaucoma filter.

[JEECE]

Yep. I'd always rather have the resolution drop to maintain 60fps rather than have native 4k locked with fps drops.

[Muigi]

Haptics, 3D Audio, Graphics and Performance modes.

[REDGUM]

Can someone please tell me why the PS5 can't produce 60fps AND 4k at the same time?
Surely it's capable of producing both at the same time? With just about every game our there at the moment on ps5 we have to choose betweenthe two, why is that?

[CML2]

Even some of the most powerful PC GPUs on the market have difficulty doing that with some games.

[Tacoboto]

Not sure who could disagree with that - 4K60fps at native resolution is nearly 500 million individual pixels getting rendered every second. That takes an enormous amount of power, especially combined with modern rendering techniques and no temporal upsampling

[Eonjay]

The Quarry can't run run maxed out on PC on a 3080.
The Matrix Demo can't run 60FPS at 1440P with GI on any consumer grade machine period.
It goes on and on but image reconstruction techniques are doing the heavy lifting these days because it turns out that working smarter not harder is really a thing.

[SyntheticForm]

Raw, native resolution is nice but when it comes at the expense of so many other things, then it's not worth it to push the pixels that high.

The game will still be beautiful.

[purple101]

Game is a ps4 game. Slightly spruced up for ps5 a la horizon gt7 and now this. When ps5 only game engines are ready we will get it all. Think insomniacs & naughty dogs next games ...

[Fishy Fingers]

We're at a point where reconstruction techniques are capable of reproducing indistinguishable resolution clarity without the resources needed for true native resolution.

You have PC GPUs that frankly embarrass current gen consoles GPUs yet we (the dudes using them) are still running DLSS, FidelityFX, intel XeSS (admittedly usually to get way more than 60fps but still).

Long story short, if you can't tell, who cares. Opt for frame rate.

[isarai]

I feel like we'll get closer to that when we stop seeing cross gen games.

[jBlakeeper]

It can. It just can’t do it with cross gen games. There are several PS5 only games that can do both. This is one of the drawbacks of a cross gen game.

[gametapes]

This is an irrelevant question if you don't know what the average resolution even is, the game even with dynamic could be pushing 4k 99.99% of the time and the dynamic is just there to catch the 1% frame drops.

And on top of that, regardless of the hardware, developers can always push more lighting, shadows, textures so that a 30 fps cap is needed. They could easily dial everything back until 120 FPS/4k was basic mode, but the game would look like a PS3 game with little to no lighting or shadows ect.

[jznrpg]

Who cares , Native 4k is a waste of resources if you can get something that looks nearly identical with better fps , little details draw distance etc . I really could care less if a game “says” native 4k vs , dynamic 4k if they do it right .
Sony doesn’t f around with their big franchises they will do it right .
Native 4k is more about bragging than being the best option to use .

[purple101]

Gran Turismo 7 is 4k native. 60fps.

[darksky]

They could have used FSR 2.0 to get upscaled 4k 60fps but it looks like they are still sticking with checkerboard rendering.

[Eonjay]

FSR
DLSS
Checkerboard Rendering
Unreal TSA
Temporal Reconctruction

They are all fundamentally the same thing and in reality you don't know what technique they are using... just be happy they are using something.

[MADGameR]

The exclusion of the physical discs on the collector's editions of the big AAA PS5 exclusives are just uncalled for. SONY clearly wants more money out of the sales.

[sourOG]

Any ideas on when these things usually go on sale? Midnight tonight? 10 am tomorrow?

[RosweeSon]

10am✌🏻

[Aloymetal]

Ready to pre order!

[swize]

All games should have 40fps balanced mode like Horizon FW . Better fidelity without the choppyness of 30fps .

[jznrpg]

Horizon didn’t have it at launch I’d guess after launnch it could get it . I have 2 HDMI 2.1 TV’s but unfortunately most people don’t have a monitor or TV that supports it yet . I do think it will become more common at some point .

[Eonjay]

If your 30fps is choppy then you have poor frame pacing. The really benifit of 40fps besides the added smoothness is the decreased latency. In a perfect world we would like all games to support 40fps on 120Hz screens but being as though most people don't have HDMI 2.1 capable TVs, I would like to see good well paced 30 and 60 FPS as priority and then add 40fps as an option.

[TicklefistCP]

Is the 60 fps mode going to be worth playing or are we going to have a Horizon Forbidden West situation?

[Pyrofire95]

60fps every day baby

[jBlakeeper]

Leaving the steelbook for the fancier editions is just a move to try and cash in on the insane hype surrounding the game and sell the fancier editions. Simple as that.

[StarkR3ality]

I'm expecting similar results to Forbidden west as some people have stated, full 4K at 30fps, and then 1800p low end res with 60fps.

I don't get the hate behind people asking for a 40fps mode as likelyhood is that 4K 30fps is leaving performance in the tank. Why not get the extra frames that are avilable if that's the case and let VRR make up for the odd frame drop here and there. Works fantasticly well on Horizon and Spiderman.

[GamingSinceForever]

This two version ordeal is getting old. They did this with Horizon FW only to release the best version months after I played it.

[jznrpg]

Wait until they patch it then? If they delayed it to get another graphical mode in people will be mad . If they patch it after people will be mad . Takes time to do these things and test them I’d guess within 3 months of launch .

[GamingSinceForever]

First of all these developers need to stop announcing release dates before the games is ready that way you avoid delays. Secondly it doesn’t change the point I was making about having the definitive version ready by launch.

[Vithar]

VRR from the get go?

[Deathpreacher]

what a joke of a game looks bad with the res and frame rate, haha