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Squaring Up For Acquisition?

One company acquiring another is never as simple as an accepted offer and paperwork.

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Zeldafan641131d ago

Square doesn't want to almost completely lose the Japanese market by abandoning the Switch.

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TricksterArrow1131d ago

By your logic, Bethesda shot themselves in the head by neglecting the biggest market share, that is PlayStation and Nintendo by being acquired by MS. Your view is too simplistic from a business view point. Sales are not everything. A big chunk, yes, but not everything.

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shinoff21831131d ago

I really hope sony scoops square.

shinoff21831131d ago

Ms went and bought up the best wrpg devs why cant sony buy square without hate.

The only games im interested in on xbox are gonna be fallout starfield(possibly) and a few inxile. Why cant sony get in on scooping up companies

annoyedgamer1131d ago

PlayStation is based in the US now.

Sayai jin1131d ago

Yes, I Hope Sony goes for it.

LOGICWINS1131d ago

I think Sony should go for them. The competition will ultimately force Xbox to take Japanese IPs more seriously. This benefits me at the end of the day.

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Zeldafan641131d ago

I wouldn't mind Sony purchasing Square so long as Dragon Quest kept coming to Nintendo consoles. I'm fine with Final Fantasy being console exclusive to Sony.

Eonjay1131d ago

I mean... at this rate I wouldn't be surprised to see them supporting the Switch.

ABizzel11131d ago

It's more so your point is illogical. The majority of Square's best-selling games have completely skipped Nintendo platforms or had releases YEARS later with modest sales at best.

The Japanese market isn't producing numbers. Square's efforts on Nintendo come in the form of occasional AAA support from franchises like Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, spin-offs of larger IP, and extremely niche JRPGs.

I don't disagree that if Square were to be purchased it would be a good fit at either Sony or Nintendo, but their AAA games would likely be technologically held back going with Nintendo, and Sony and Square's paths towards Live Service align MUCH better, and Sony and their devs can also help Square achieve a much better technological evolution than Nintendo could.

Sega seems like a better fit for Nintendo IMO than Square.

neutralgamer19921131d ago

Whether we like it or not Sony will buy square and announce around the time MS/Bethesda conference. Not only that but Capcom acquisition is in the works too

Sony passed on the opportunity to spend $300 million go buy square USA division because it hasn't generated any major profit over the years( yes their games sold but their budgets were mismanaged all the way through, SE let them do their own thing so Crystal Dynamic CEO made the sequel to time raider timed exclusive for only $10 million dollars) the reason that's a big thing is because that game needed to sell and the CEO was a known Xbox fan so making timed exclusive is not a bad thing but more like for 100 million not 10

Sony paid 85% of development for FF7 remake

Sony funded FF16
Sony are funding street fighter

These games will come to PC but never to any other platform. FF7 remake part 2 will be PS5 exclusive for 18 months

People really think Ms can spend almost 100 billion on acquisition but Sony can't buy publishers which are worth between. 5-7?

Sony depends on PlayStation while for Ms Xbox brand is a not a necessity

Zeldafan64

Who cares man Nintendo is such a fade. PlayStation sells the most software and generates the most revenue for almost every publisher. But that's not how it works.

Christopher1131d ago

***Whether we like it or not Sony will buy square and announce around the time MS/Bethesda conference. Not only that but Capcom acquisition is in the works too***

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neutralgamer19921131d ago

Christopher

No brother don't need that. Remember few years back Ms had the gamecom conference and Sony announced acquisition of insomniac. Expect something along those lines

Early more PS Blog. And capcom has been in the works a lot longer

annoyedgamer

No Sony shut down smaller studios in Japan and are actually trying to have a bigger presence in Japan. They know if they make monster hunter, dragon quest and final fantasy exclusive to PlayStation that Japan market will be a big get

People remember Sony shutting down Japan studios without realizing they made PD(GT developer bigger)

And look up team asobi they are huge now and are hiring to even grow bigger. People focus on a studio shut down without realizing most of the people were actually moved to Asobi and PD

Christopher1131d ago

***No brother don't need that. Remember few years back Ms had the gamecom conference and Sony announced acquisition of insomniac. Expect something along those lines***

https://media.shafaq.com/me...

None of us know any of this. Let's not act like we do. One time something happens doesn't mean every time it happens. And, even then, doesn't mean it happens with these companies.

We really need to cool it as a hobby group with these random predictions of who is next when doing this is actually bad for the industry as a whole. Let alone the basis for them is about as credible as Petrol companies telling us Petrol hasn't caused any climate change.

tay87011131d ago (Edited 1131d ago )

i can almost guarantee you that when sony aquires them they will continue to let them make games for the the switch. nintendo isnt really sonys competition, MS is. sony can cohabitate with nintendo just fine. plus sony could make a killing from the software sales as well.

ALMGNOON1131d ago

Bethesda lowest sales are on Xbox 🤷🏻‍♂️

Mr_Writer851130d ago

"Square doesn't want to almost completely lose the Japanese market by abandoning the Switch"

But IF (and that's a massive if) Sony bought Square they wouldn't need to worry about that. As it would be Sony's problem.

And it's not like Square games don't sell on other platforms in Japan is it?

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DefaultComment1131d ago

Why is it that you people think square Enix is for Sale? Just because they sold their West studios and some of the west Ips, that doesn't mean that the company is going for sale. They just cut the fat because the most profitable is their Japanese IPs and like hell they wanna let go to that Japanese market of Jrpgs.
They are doing fine, for instance their MMORPG FF14 is good since most of their Blizzard /warcratt fan base moved to it, and now they are announcing more Final Fantasy VII news? it's gonna be OK. I mean take it like this...the prime games pretty much has a time exclusivity to Sony and the second class games(leftovers) are for Nintendo and that's how it's been for years now. So they got nothing to worry about.

Zeldafan641131d ago (Edited 1131d ago )

I wouldn't call games like Triangle Strategy and Octopath Traveler second class leftovers. The music, story, characters, gameplay and voice acting of both those games are great.

DefaultComment1131d ago

I don't like to call them that neither but they are at the end of the day the budget for those games is significally smaller than a FF16 or FF7 remake. Square is happy making half ass games for the Switch because they are confident it will do decent sales. I hate that attitude from them but it is what it is.

shinoff21831131d ago

I dont consider those leftovers. I wanted them on playstation to no luck

lellkay1130d ago

I wouldn't agree on the stories, characters and voice acting. Thought that was awful.

Gameplay and music was good though

franwex1131d ago

Square wants to sell, EA wants to sell, Ubisoft want to sell, Activison is attempting to sell.

What is happening? Is it the current stock market sell off putting pressure? Is it unrealistic expectations of their products?

At the end of the day, just make good games. Don’t release service crap. Be more like Capcom and turn things around instead of trying to run away.

Eonjay1131d ago

Well, Activision is selling almost exclusively because of Bobby Kotick. Microsoft is the primary source because they were already looking to take content from the wider market and make it exclusive to their subscription. Microsoft was headed in this direction for a long time though as is evidenced by Office 365. And so when investors saw that they could cash out to Microsoft they showed up in droves looking for checks. Sony originally wasn't looking to aquire but changed its tune once it saw that Microsoft wanted to remove options from its competitiors through brute force. Suddenly to investors, the preceived value of their stock went up and is allowing some to cash out and make bank. The situation with Bobby is even more complex because he realized that in order for him to save himself and make out as best as possible, he needed Microsoft to buy what was left of Activision, paying him out for the stock and then terminating him go so that he could bank roll the tripple salary perk that the Microsoft buyout would initiate. Thats right, in order for Bobby to get close to the billion dollar payday, he needs to be fired by Phil Spencer. Effed up for sure.

kayoss1131d ago (Edited 1131d ago )

Games are getting too expensive to make, Not all games will become successful, and companies are struggling to keep up with the quality and expenses.
This is why some companies are moving toward Game as a service model. They just need to make one game, periodically release content and not worry about creating a brand new game from the ground up. Games like Destiny 2 is now a full fledge service. If your game is successful, you will make more profits in the long term by keeping players playing your game.

Silly gameAr1131d ago

There won't be any 3rd party companies left at this point.

Knightofelemia1131d ago

The value of acquisition is never low if somebody drives up with a dump truck full of cash and bangs on your door then you will accept it. Every company has a price no matter who it is problem is the company that is making the purchase and how they will utilize your library of games. And do it in the right way that won't piss off the fans of a particular series. And if Sony buys SquareEnix good on them. I would rather see a Japanese company bought up by a Japanese company then see SquareEnix get bought up by a company like Tencent.

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It Shouldn't Take Expedition 33's Success to Remind Square Enix That Turn-Based Still Sells

TNS: Expedition 33 was the wake-up call Square Enix needed, telling it turn-based RPGs are still popular, but that shouldn't have been the case.

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Relientk772d ago

True, but if it does get it through their thick skulls, then that works.

Although, the Dragon Quest 1 + 2 HD remakes will be turn-based and (the worst kept secret) Final Fantasy IX remake should be turn-based I would imagine. Let's see if any newer games go turn-based too.

thorstein2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

DQIII HD Remake was turned based and very successful. Then there was a really obscure turn based game came Balder's Gate 3. I heard it might have done well.

Profchaos2d ago

I wouldn't be shocked if they switched ff to the vii remake combat system

PapaBop1d 23h ago

It won't get through to them though, despite E33's success, they still won't risk going fully turn based for their big budget projects simply because they are still in the mindset that it needs to be action combat to appeal to the mainstream audience. I hope I'm wrong but don't underestimate just how stubborn Japanese execs can be

barom1d 16h ago

Ya'll are hyping up Expedition 33 too much. Reminder that FF XVI sold 3 million in a week and it took Expedition 33 approximately a month to get to that (33 days to reach 3.3 million).

thorstein1d 12h ago

New IP vs established IP.

barom1d 5h ago

1 platform vs 3 platforms
1 week vs 1 month

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DivineHand1252d ago

While it is true that Sqaure Enix has moved away from turn based games compared to how they were in the past, there is a good reason for it.

Older gamers will know this but during the ps2 era, we were flooded with turned based games from Japanese studios and this created a form of fatigue back then going into the next generation.

When Square released FF13, they received heavy criticism for making the game turned based like every other FF game and not doing enough to innovate. This is why they made FF15, FF7 Remake and FF16 have real time combat. It gave the series a fresh spin and has brought in new fans to the series.

I personally would be happy with either turned based FF or the real-time combat version we see today.

Shane Kim2d ago

Remake and Rebirth have "turn based" if you set it in the settings.

Lexreborn22d ago

Dang wish I saw your post before I made mine because we definitely feel the same way lol

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Yeah hit the nail on the head but its like ww2 games we get hundreds of them then a decade of nothing and people start missing them i think we're going to start seeing them return

Claire, dragon quest even yakuza have seen turn based return

Runechaz1d 11h ago

Every Pokémon game is also a Turn Base RPG.. and selling millions

andy852d ago

Only need to look at their own game DQ 11 approaching 10 million to show there's a market. And that's not as big of a name as FF

Runechaz1d 11h ago

you can also look at the Pokemon game number

Tacoboto2d ago

Another article about Expedition 33 and Square Enix and turn-based games? This is starting to sound like propaganda.

The game didn't sell because it's a turn-based game; it sold and is enjoyed because it's a really freaking good game that released completed at a good price without gamer drama attached to it. No Mtx, no wait-until-it's-patched, minimal bloat, a self-contained story, no multiplatform BS. Just a solid original game that absolutely nails what it intended to do.

Redemption-642d ago

I was just about to say the same thing.

anast2d ago

This comment should have a 100 upvotes, at least.

CrimsonWing692d ago

Maybe try actually listening to the fans who have supported the series for decades. This habit of ignoring your core audience just to chase people who were never interested in Final Fantasy in the first place makes no sense. And when that approach fails, doubling down on it is beyond baffling.

The battle system has never been the main reason non-FF or non-JRPG players stayed away. Gutting the series’ identity to chase a broader market doesn’t attract new players. It just alienates the loyal ones.

Keep going down this road and we’ll end up with Final Fantasy Fortnite abomination or a F2P Battle Royale game.. Oh wait…

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