Killzone 2: 2005, 07 and 08 Video Comparison

E3 2005 gave people the infamous MotorStorm and Killzone 2 trailers. They looked amazing - too good to be true. And of course, they were too good to be true, generated as 'target footage' by Sony. MotorStorm came close (sort of) but failed. And now GamesRadar has got playable preview version of Killzone 2 sitting in theirr PS3, they can tell you that it doesn't look as good as that early footage.

It looks better.

[panasonic23]

Awesome

[Aquanox]

Killzone 2 looks great, looks excellent, but no game this generation will look better than the CGI Trailer. Some guys do the "screenshot" trick to try to prove their point, but once you watch it in motion, that CGI trailer is untouchable. The amount of detail, animations, psysics and particle effects in there belong to PS4.

[olivia]

EVERYTIME I SEE KILLZONE2 I GET GOOSEBUMP.

[WANNA GET HIGH]

This just shows how good killzone2 looks like.They are not many game out there that u can compare to its CGI trailer.DAY1 BUY FOR ME.

[LokMessier]

I agree with that, Day one buy for me just as well.

[PLASTICA-MAN]

It really exceeds the E3 2005 trailer! Look at the blurry textures at that time! I wonder how Killzone 3 or any upcoming title would look like! "Loosing hope is an utter sin"!

http://img78.imageshack.us/...

http://www.psu.com/media/ki...

http://www.psu.com/screensh...

http://www.psu.com/screensh...

http://www.psu.com/screensh...

[mikeslemonade]

Some parts look better in gameplay some parts the CGI looked better. The explosions, the blur effects, the cleaness of the graphics, and the close up cam point of view look better on CGI. The gun and the enemies look better in the gameplay. The locations look even.

This game is doing no game has done not even MGS4 and that is match the CG. Unchated looks better than MGS4 anyway. And no other game on other system has come even close.

[goflyakite]

The lighting in the playable code is amazing.

[Elimin8]

Rico's voice is annoying.... Why him..... "Checkk yorr wear pon".. Just as annoying as in the first, where every 2 seconds after you kill someone screams "whoa that was messy man".

[phosphor112]

I'm going to steal a truck load of them and hold it hostage with a ransom of...1...million..dollars..mua hahAHAHAHAHAHAHhhahahhack*cough *..or I can buy it day 1...

[pixelsword]

...I hope they're only masking dialogue with fake voices.

The Newer Rico sounds like an old man.

The voice from the earlier trailer is the original voice for Rico and sounds better.

[dukadork]

now we'd be entitled to a massive worldwide humiliating apology campaign from 90% of the gaming media but nothing of that sort will happen cuz they know they can get away with it.

the fact is, this is a huge story:

- a game studio and a console maker made some bold promises
- millions of cunts masturbated over how impossible it was
- the game studio and the console maker delivered beyond the 'impossible'

this game alone demolishes all the smearing bullsh!t people have indulged in regarding PS3.

REVENGE, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

[NegativeCreep427]

The first video comparison between the latest preview code and the so-called "Infamous" 2005 E3 Target Render is the video that will seriously shut the F'n mouths of all those anti-PS3 haters on the web and in the gaming media who PRAYED and HOPED that Sony and Guerilla couldn't make a videogame look that good (just so that they could continue to talk Sh!t and lick Microsoft's proverbial bunghole).

Well, Sony and Guerilla just did the F'n impossible, and they didn't let all this seemingly-universal hate towards them get in the way of their goals and objectives.

At the end of this console generation, I believe that is how people will be viewing the PS3 itself, as a console. All the haters who just went with the crowd and blindly accepted all the propaganda these past two years will look back and see how much great potential the PS3 really had and how the lazy Third-party developers themselves were the ones directly responsible for the "underwhelming" PS3 visuals that we see in multi-platform titles.

[dukadork]

bubble machine

[ToastyMcNibbles]

guerilla pwned that target render haha

[CViper]

1up
Gamespot
Edge
Eurogamer
IGN
Gamepro
GamesDaily

All need to do the same. Its obvious to everyone that has eyes. But you know some people just cant plain admit that GG has pulled it off, and Sony has just delivered some amazing technology that backs it all up.

[Dread]

o god

stop with the everyone is against Sony nonsense. It is getting old.

that said, the graphics look amazing. I have to give strong props to Guerilla and Sony for pulling of this amazing looking game.

now, and i am not hating, lets hope the gamepley follows suit. Graphics are nothing without gameplay. Also guerilla is not a proven Developer. However, from the looks of the beta the gameplay seems to be fine, so day one purchase for me (if i get my Playstation3 by then)

[CViper]

Not only is gameplays importance to a GAME inherent, but it doesn't need to be reguirgitated over and over again.

Gameplay wasn't the reason KZ2 has been hated on since the cgi trailer, neither was gameplay the reason the above mentioned websites have been bashing games and hardware for not living up to the "OMG SONY LIED KZ2 TRAILER" of 05.

Graphics have been the main problem for KZ2 & the PS3. No one ever stop and said "Wow, that gameplay looks ASTONISHING, lets hope Sony can do it." Because it didn't, it looked like your standard FPS. Which unfortunately, all FPS's look like due to no real creative ones being invented since Prey really.

KZ2's graphics prove a few things to the gaming community. It proves that a decent pipeline with the cell brings you second to none visuals in the console realm, and it shows that the target render was exceeded in certain areas. Thats all the hype around KZ2 has ever been. The goals of GG has been to make a good FPS with astonishing visuals of their hollywood level of realism, and they've done it.

Anyone that played KZ1 or Liberation knows exactly what to expect when it comes to gameplay.Gameplay is always the #1 thing, but as far as killzone2 goes the infamous cgi trailer is what has been the games worst burden. It brought ridicule from many media outlets and it was called impossible. In other words, GG was called a Liar.

Everyone *is* out to get sony, but it doesn't really matter. But im not blind here to a nonstop 247 campaign of Smear bud. Lets be real.

I commend GamesRadar for coming up and saying it. Its hard to say especially in the Anti-Sony climate as of recent, but its the truth. The game looks good, we all know how FPS's play. Many of us have played the Beta. Its going to be a fun game that delivered on everything GG set out to prove with the ps3.

ENough with pretending to not know how the hell its going to play. If the requirements to be an amazing game this generation are the standards of Halo3 COD4, and Gears of War.. Its pretty easy to see how KZ2 can settle in right next to those titles. Fps = Story/Online/Strafe/Coversyste m/Goals/*boss fights*/Ending. There is no mystery to Killzone2's FPS lineage as far as gameplay.

Its like people bleed at the eyes over Halo3 & COD4 yet see the EXACT SAME gameplay mechanics in KZ2 and then go 'well im not sure how it will play'. How where the heck does that even come from? I'd be willing to be most gamers know how a non RPG-esque FPS/TPS/Adventure game is going to play. You just need to find your bearings with the controls, then go at it. Its an FPS. The same way Halo3 was the same FPS as Counterstrike, all be it slower and with different dynamics. It played relatively the same way. Aim, run Shoot.

[Why o why]

they have a get out clause in place.

'It took 3.2 bazillion Euros to make it plus it took longer than the dev time of the graphical hd monster known as Halo 3 which equals FAIL, sorry guys;)

[DiabloRising]

CViper, you and I both know that KZ2 will be bashed and nitpicked, nonstop, by the media fanboys for issues that are entirely present and acceptable/overlooked in other big name titles like Halo 3, Call of Duty 4, and Gears of War 2.

Which is unfortunate to say the least.

[Aclay]

@ Dread,

Killzone 2's gameplay will be just as good as the graphics. I've played Killzone 1, so I already know what to expect gameplay wise.

Whenever Guerrilla made Killzone 1, Sony had not acquired them yet and I'm sure that they were a pretty underfunded studio back then. Killzone 1 was Guerrilla's first game and honestly I think that Guerrilla pushed the PS2 a lot more than it could handle.

Guerrilla may not be "proven developers" in your eyes, but they have already proved themselves to me with Killzone 2.

If KZ2's gameplay wasn't that good and it was all about graphics, then I'm sure that in a lot of the Single Player previews would have brought that out.

If anyone on this site still doubts Killzone 2, I seriously don't know what is wrong with you because Killzone 2's gameplay footage speaks for itself.

[Dread]

guys relax

i am not trying to hate on the game. I am the first to admit that it looks amazing. My comment as to gameplay stems from the fact that i have not played it and guerilla has not release an AAA game yet.

further, kz2 as not been release, so stop comparing it to games that have been released.

also

@Cviper "Everyone *is* out to get sony, but it doesn't really matter. But i am not blind here to a nonstop 247 campaign of Smear bud. Lets be real."'

stop with this conspiracy nonsense. Sony deserves some of the criticisms it is getting. It is not like MS got a pass with the RROD fiasco. this site has been non-stop bashing MS (it deserves it by the way) because of the RROD. I never thought it was a conspiracy, it was deserved, period. So take a good look at the problems that Sony is having, and lets work on improving the system instead of shooting the messenger and whining like little fanboys.

be gamers not haters

peace

[PoSTedUP]

what system is this for?

[Gaara_724]

you have to be joking since every 360 person says its a fail/its not as good as the 2005 target or its a flop i will let you chose

[ultimolu]

Gaara, he's being sarcastic. xD

[Magic_The_Celt]

Why the Playstation 3 of course my good man, and PS3 only :)

[resistance100]

o_0 Dam!

After playing the beta for the last few months i know that it looks better than the target renders, however i'm amazed that a website has actually come out and said it themselves, and GamesRader of all people

[ultimolu]

...If this game gets any better than that, I will eat my shirt.

[WANNA GET HIGH]

U might as well start eating!!!They still have 2months to polish the game so i have a feeling it would get better.

[ultimolu]

...*starts chewing for the sake of suspense*

[Why o why]

blouse ....;)

[No FanS Land]

Didn't you already eat your shirt not long ago. I think it was for Uncharted.

[ultimolu]

I'm about to eat another shirt for this game. *-*

[WANNA GET HIGH]

Remember the beta was very compressed (450MB)Just imagine how it would look like when it is not compressed on CD.

[TheHater]

I think you mean blu-ray

[pixelsword]

so I think calling it so is apt.

[InMyOpinion]

That's the smallest videos I've ever seen. Wish they had a HD version of it.

[dukadork]

here's 1 special for you buddy: some gorgeous full scene dynamic lighting
http://www.gametrailers.com...

is that big enough?

[Kleptic]

something small to point out with that...notice the lightning strobes are a real sourced light, creating dynamic shadows around everything...notice the procedural wind effecting every particle effect (even bullet 'splash' is blown by the wind on that bridge)...

and notice that ENTIRE gorgeous sky is actually moving...everything in it...all those storm clouds and huge plumes of smoke from burning buildings...

there are few things in gaming that impressive right now...

[running rampid]

sony need to stop showing us what games on the ps4 will look like.
seriously, kz2 looks that good.

[ultimolu]

Sweet Jesus...somebody hold me.

I feel another blackout coming.

The awesome games are killin' me and my purse.

[running rampid]

i'll hold you. :)

[sugard0]

Cant believe one level is 2GB.

Bu bu but blu-ray isnt needed
bu bu but 256ram
bu bu but gears of war

Naysayers behold...... U JUST GOT KILLZOWNED!

[Beg For Mercy]

512mb of unified ram plus the 10mb of edram on the gpu but but dvd is good enough but but unreal engine looks teh better than anything else, bu but but sony lied in 2005 about everything

[madmonkey0]

ps3 has 512 mb ram, but in two parts btw. theoretically making load different elements quicker.
hos your rrod doing?

[dylz]

in theory conunism works in theory

btw I agree wit u I just wanted 2 use that line

[CryofSilence]

Why are people so ignorant?

PS3 has a combined total of 512 mb of RAM accessible by both the cell and the RSX.

What I'm about to say will go over just about all the ignorant peoples' heads:

PS3 has 256 MB of XDR RAM
PS3 has 256 MB of DDR3 RAM (same RAM used in Xbox 360)

If my understanding is correct, XDR is faster than DDR3. (as its DDR competitor is DDR4 which isn't really available.)

Quit the RAM issue. It's not an issue. If there's a winner, it's the PS3.

[MUNKYPOO]

he was just saying what the 360 fanboys were saying awhile back. jeez relax. people cant speak sarcasm i guess

[Kleptic]

yeah I guess you guys didn't notice his sarcasm...

the spec debacle is over...the game proves without a questionable doubt that the PS3 is kind of a big deal when it comes to visuals...

when and if the 360 puts up anything to come close, then we are back to where we are now...but something tells me that if its not UE3, no dev, nor MS, will put up the money and effort to accomplish it...and UE3 simply can't touch it...Gears 2 confirms it, being the best looking 360 and UE3 game so far, which didn't even top MGS4 visually, and doesn't come close to killzone 2...

I would love to read a credible argument against that...

[Kain81]

but Uncharted 1 + 2, MGS4, Killzone2 and other sony games showed me that ps3 has more power.
i think its an excuse to make multiplatts.

[Kleptic]

the two systems are so radically different that that was never more than an attempt to calm waves of 'which version of your game will look better'...

it is no doubt easier to make a 'regular' game look great on the 360...and takes considerable effort just to get the Ps3 version to par with that...

but the exclusives for each system, particularly first party, show the real differences...

that is not to say the PS3 is way more powerful than the 360...and has everything to do with how Sony and MS are handling their own systems...

killzone 2 is rumored to be well north of %50 million, some sources saying its overall development budget started at $40 million, and rose to over $60 million over the past few years...GG as a dev has gone from a roughly 55 person team for Killzone 1 to over 150 for killzone 2 in house...not including all the out sourcing and extra tech/support given from the rest of SCE's internal studio network...this is Sony pushing their own partners to push the PS3...and it shows...

MS on the other hand...does the opposite...Gears 2 had a roughly $15 million budget (I use that as an example simply because its the best looking 360 game so far)...which is up from the ~$10 million for Gears 1...its true that none of those development budgest include the cost of initial UE3 R&D, which is said to be around $30 million...but its pretty clear...UE3, Gears 1, and Gears 2 combined cost less than Killzone 2 if you believe any of these financial insiders...

MS simply doesn't put the money into first party games like Sony does...no way to argue it...they instead offer hand outs to 3rd parties for exclusive deals, or more often than not...simply to share a once exclusive PS3 game...

both situations can be good for the end user of their respective console..as...because of MS; millions of 360 only owners get to enjoy some 3rd party games they otherwise would not of...which so far, has easily been the better business strategy overalll...however, the meat of what Sony has done hasn't affected this generation yet...Killzone 2 is the first large scale, major budget, endeavour to release...and how far above the current crop of games, particularly first person shooters, killzone 2 sets itself will determine how successful the position Sony has taken really is...

so like I said...its not just 'the ps3 is more powerful for games' if that really is the case...as it has taken a mountain of time, effort, and money to accomplish something so ridiculously good looking...but killzone 2 is the first of many 1st party games to have this sort of budget...GT5 (rumored to be over 100 million), GoW III, Heavy Rain (another 50 million + title), and the likes of other devs tweaking their already existing tech (ND with Uncharted 2)...and 2009 simply has the ball in Sony's court when it comes to visuals...

[micro_invader]

No doubt it's past the target render in many aspects, but the comparison video was of very poor quality.

Can't wait for this, only 2 months left :)

[DeZimatoR]

Admitting you were wrong is the first step to being cured, well done GamesRadar.

Who's next, 1UP?

"Sony deserves an apology - it really did deliver on this one."

[Beg For Mercy]

right i think 1up will never admit they are to arrogant, i think ign might give a nice shoutout to how it looks better but thats about it but i think the negative reviewers are going to try and dock a lot of points on gameplay which is great in my opinion from the beta, they are going to dock points for stupid things like voice acting storyline and stuff like that

[Bengoshi-San]

i'm not convinced just yet

not a day 1 purchase for me, at least not as of right now

footage does look good, but a game is about much more than that.

[Fishy Fingers]

Go read some write ups dude. Like you mention, visuals are simply once piece of the pie. But people are raving about the gameplay to, most of which describe it as similar to COD4. Which can't be a bad thing.

Not trying to twist your arm into buying here, honestly, Id dont care if you do or dont. But do a little reading, you might like what you hear.

[Aclay]

@Bengoshi-San,

If you aren't convinced to buy KZ2 day one, I don't know why. Killzone 2's gameplay footage speaks for itself. The graphics look amazing and the gameplay looks amazing.

Haters and Doubters be damned, Killzone 2 is MINE day one regardless of reviews and I see no reason why this game wont get good reviews. Killzone 2 looks a whole lot better gameplay wise and of course graphics wise than Resistance 2 in my opinion.

[METtAL-GAMER]

More comparisons?

[JonahFalcon]

It doesn't look "better". What PS3 fanboy goggles are you watching with? Heck, it isn't even as good as Gears of War 1, let alone 2.

[micro_invader]

Like I said before, the quality of the video is crap.

Go find an HD version, watch it and then come back and post your opinion, if you still think it's crap, fine, your opinion.

[PirateThom]

Selective blindness isn't opinion.

[austere]

the environment and lighting is definitely better. The character's faces and hair don't look as good nor does the smoke effects. So having only 2 things to pick out that don't look as good as a CGI trailer. That is pretty f*cking impressive.

[micro_invader]

yeah, well I didn't want to sound like a fanboy. If I did say that he was blinded by his fanboyism, I surely would've gotten more disagrees/agrees.

I thought I'd stay neutral.

[Ju]

Ha ha ha. Falcon, that was funny. Almost fell of my chair here.

[Gun_Senshi]

is gonna be killzowned

[Fishy Fingers]

Ha, well, GOW3 has nothing to do with him from a development point of view, so I'm not sure he really has enough invested interest to be pwned. But he did refer to GOW as the best looking console game yet and no doubt he's played/seen KZ. Who knows, subjective anyway.

But either way, they're on the same system so at least there wont be to much arguing about it, perhaps just appreciation for a change :)

[Nikkelz]

i dont know man but....this gives a whole new meaning to next gen....this even makes uncharted(possibly the best looking game to date)look ugly by comparison.

i just know this,first day purchase for me....see you guys on the battlefield

peace and game on

[Ju]

Well, yeah, UC1. And it will raise the bar for sure. But there is a sh!t load more coming later that year. KZ2 is only the beginning.

[Sevir04]

but seriously.. KZ2 makes MGS4 and Uncharted 1, gears one and 2 look like poo... but already there is Heavy Rain which looks even better than it's Demo tech render from 2006, and that look better than KZ2, and then there is the new Uncharted 2:among theives which looks ridiculously amazing, on a scope like no other. the textures look outstanding, and to me uncharted was the best showing of textures on the PS3, not even MGS4 had such good textures and that game was amazing in scope as well. and then there Is God of war 3, which is said to be outstanding as well. and there is also grand turismo 5. seriously, Next year Sony's PS3 is singing the power song. Multiplatform games will look amazing but it's the exclusives that will look out of this world. and simply put there isn't anything in MS's line up that will even come remotely close to KZ2 being the start of next year, exclusively to MS's great console.

Point in close Sony, ponied up, they delivered the goods and they killed the competition on pure raw power. The PS3 is a beast. and it delivers Hollywood budget graphics an d gameplay without the use of a $3,000-5,000 PC.

Crysis on Consoles are hear.

[Organization XII]

KZ2 delievered the goods but umm after like 4 years the game looks just ok compared to the standard of these days games, i mean check recent pc games they blow the sh!@!@ out of this game.. 4 years ago the game would have been awesome but now its just like any other fps game...

[bviperz]

Try playing Crysis on 4 year old tech and max settings. Better yet, put them on low settings and try playing Crysis Warhead. Don't bring the PC into this, unlike the PC, you can't upgrade components (aside from the HDD) on a console to run newer tech games. Stick to the article please.

[Ju]

Just proves the concept was future proof down the road if it holds up comparing with top end PC titles (and no average $500 PC comes even remotely close to that here - today).

[WANNA GET HIGH]

Mgs4 is the best looking game to date and it makes mgs4 and it looks 10times better thn mgs4.That says alot about killzone2.

[ricksinclair]

Uncharted?

[The Judderman]

Am i the only one who thinks it looks good but isnt blown away. Yeah its a nice looking game but i wouldn't go so far as to say 'Wow thats just mindblowing best thing ever' like lots of people are saying.
Everyone seems to creaming over the fact that the textures don't blur close up, what like most games these days? Hell even Halo3 ( which i think is lacking in a lot of graphical areas) has solid texture work.

Im hoping Killzone is going to be good and i am looking forward to its release. I just hope the stories of it being like COD4 aren't true as anyonw who has played that on Hard levels knows it turns into a checkpoint run with little in A.I. or room for gameplay improvisation.

Before everyone brings on the hate for me daring to say the game might not be the second coming i am looking forward to playing the whole game and with any luck it will be great.

[Ju]

Yeah, you are the only one.

[gamfreak]

is officially doom.

[The Judderman]

Don't they have good looking games on the PS3? Judging by fans wetting themselves over this i wonder.

[kingfury]

imma wet u with blood if u dont stop talkin that bull$hit

[xwabbit]

Man this game is just to pro :/

[bmatthews]

1st day purchase for me, GG have really proved themselves

[James Vanderbeek]

Motorstorm 2 came a little closer to the target video.. Evolution should be able to hit the target video with motorstorm 3.. And motorstorm 2 is one of the best looking racing games to date..

killzone 2 is darn near close to the target video which is amazing.. i havent played the game yet but everyone says the actual game looks better than the target video from e3 05 and that is one amazing feat to accomplish..

[Nicaragua17]

LOL I feel sorry for all the coffee table owners that won't be enjoying Guerilla Games masterpiece early next year,enjoy your inferior multi-platform games Xbots!!

[Mike134nl]

This is one game that doens't need marketing to sell lots. 2009 already seems dar away.

[felidae]

wow .. i think it's the best looking console game ever!

respect to GG

[The Judderman]

I thought the multi format games were always inferior on the PS3?

[smurfie4]

I think he was trying to say that multi-plats are inferior to exclusives. I miss the beta. -_-

[notpill]

sorry, I cant see anything
that videos are too big for my monitor

[Magic_The_Celt]

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

all you xbot dipsh*ts laughed and said the 2005 trailer was CGI (which it was) and that it would never look that good

NOW IT LOOKS EVEN BETTER HAHAHAHAHA! OWNED

[grantps3]

they desserve studio of the year 2009.

they went against the odds, and did what some said was "impossible"

and its only their second or third game as a studio...bravo

[FantasyStar]

I don't think the game is going to look any better. That's what I see, that's what I'm expecting. No more, some less. I hope others would be wise to do the same.

[ballsofsteel]

The main difference i see is that the particle effects were better in the CGI however the lighting is MUCH better in the game. still amazing games can now compare to a CGI trailer

[pornflakes]

"Some guys do the "screenshot" trick to try to prove their point, but once you watch it in motion, that CGI trailer is untouchable. The amount of detail, animations, psysics and particle effects in there belong to PS4."

THATS IT

[Kleptic]

and you fanatics do the same thing trying to point out a rogue texture that isn't up to par with the rest of the game...

I love how the general movement from you diehard 360 kids is just saying 'its not as good as the trailer', instead of actually admitting that...regardless...its far superior to any released game so far...

http://www.gametrailers.com...

i'll be waiting for you to post a vid of ANY 360 game coming close to this...

[Yomiro]

Before I had my doubt about the power of the ps3, but after seen Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 latest I have no more doubts. The ps3 is really the most powerful console in the market and they were right when they said "the Next Gen doesn't start until we say so".

[kazan]

Killzone 2: 2005, 07, 08 and 09 Video Comparison -..-?

[milesd6]

The ps3 isn't capable of running a game as good as the target render. That's why the game is almost completely different. About 2 years ago, I heard a developer say that they wouldn't be able to match the target render, but he also said that games would look that good in a few years. It looked like it was running on a direct 10 or 11 machine. It would have been improved before being released. So people need to stop saying that actual KZ2 looks better.

[milesd6]

but KZ2 is what it is, and the target render is what it is, which is CG.