I don’t know. I think they’ll extend the cross gen period.
Still lots of shortages going on, and if the rumors about MS paying for chip priority are true, they’re going to get worse before they get better.
The market is also too big to ignore, you’re talking about 100m+ audience vs under 20m - by EOY I expect it to be at 20-25m though - but still peanuts compared to PS4.
Depends on what's after, I dont know what's after GoW but Spiderman and wolverine and they a 2023+ game. By then the shortage is expected to be ended by then but who knows. Also 2023 would be the 3rd year its expected for games after GoW to be only ps5.
Agreed - it’s 100% going to come down to chip availability.
And there’s probably still some post-GoW but pre-Wolverine/Spiderman exclusives (from Sony or 2nd party) that we don’t know about with E3 being right around the corner.
Chip shortages aside, most ps cross gen exclusives have sold alot more on ps5. Even though we're approaching year 2 theres still a ton of hardcore ps gamers, whoxtypicallyxwpuld buy ps exclusives, still seeking to buy a ps5. Due to chip shortages id say we're still in early adopters stage.
By 2023 when the next big known exclusives arrive install will be even larger especially if they figure out a chip solution
Sales breakdowns can be hard to judge though, some sources don’t report digital for example.
But I think it’s really going to come down to the chips. If you can walk into most retail stores and buy a PS5 with ease/zero effort in major markets - we’ll start seeing crossgen fade away - especially for first party / exclusives since the platform holders have a vested interest in moving people off the old platforms.
If I were planning on playing GOW, and were just waiting till I could score a PS5 at MSRP, I would just wait till I got a PS5. I would rather play it with the best possible experience, than one that will no doubt be great, on PS4, but even better on PS5.
You main argument is chip shortage from you replies. There are ps5 only games from them so I'll probably go with maybe some ps5 only games and some cross. I'm more towards more ps5 only games definitely after 2022.
@cap that article you linked lost all credibility when they quoted VGFCZ as a sale source. I don’t doubt it be true as Microsoft has done everything possible to get rid of PlayStation(360 era paying for time exclusives only to loose and be destroyed the next generation and now buying whole publishers to keep 3rd party games from PlayStation) and failed at every attempt. No matter how many consoles they get on shelves faster than Sony if it’s sale slower than PlayStation. Microsoft fan base is in the neighborhood of 50-60 millions (I been generous with MS here as the RROD padded a lot of 360 sales and when they sold equally 60 millions was it’s topped assumed number)while Sony is in the 100+ millions with the exception of PS3 because the price and Microsoft rush to market. I don’t think the ps4 support will continue 100% pass this year maybe mid next
Most people are buying the PS5 versions of these games despite the shortage. A majority of the rest are waiting until they can get a PS5 before buying. The minority are actually buying the PS4 versions. So what idiots are you trying to convince with your retarded statement?
The PS5 is selling virtually the same as the PS4 at the same point in its cycle, despite shortages and even though it can't meet demand. I see no reason why they'd treat this cycle any differently with regard to cross gen.
I think cross gen will last the whole generation too unless this generation last all the way til 2026 and Sony will do what MS did and pay for chip shortage to get more PS5's out there because other than that how they gonna get enough PS5's in store and online for me i would be ok if we had another long generation like XB360/PS3 only time will tell what Sony will do
Same. I know it's a bit selfish cause I do have a PS5 but but so far apart from R&C and The Matrix tech demo, it doesn't feel like next gen has started yet. Nothing apart from those two games have wowed me to the point of thinking this is next gen
It’s definitely what we all want but nobody thought the current chip shortage would last this long and that’s really going to be the determining factor. More ps5s then yes, not enough ps5s then more cross gen sadly.
As a Ps4 Pro owner i have no problem with that ... i got the best time of my life with that system playing in 4k with top of the line graphics (Horizon Forbidden west was fudging beautiful in 4k) and with still tons and tons of games i have yet to play before the Ps5 Pro hit the market
Because for me the right time to by ps5 ( i hope they release the Pro) would be by the end of 2023
As a Gamer i am very happy with what i got from that system and i still see no need for PS5 yet .... can't wait to finish the God of War saga
Other than resolution and fps bump this gen has been a very small jump over last. I don't see why PS4 can't keep getting downgraded ports. Unless your game is Cyberpunk.
A very small jump? Certainly bigger than PS3 to 4 with last gens potato jaguar CPUs and many games plagued with performance issues. Lets not forget blistering load times and 60fps basically becoming a standard almost, that's a biger jump imo.
No way I could ever go back to even a PS4 Pro at this point, 30fps plagued with heavy motion blur, 1+ min load times and it sounding like a jet engine, Horizon looks and runs light years better on PS5 than on PS4.
Loved the PS4 but the industry standard for consoles have changed now.
The people talking about chip shortages saying they won't have enough consoles to warrant PS5 exclusive development.
I think they won't have as many as they would like, but by next year I would expect PS5 well into the 30 million mark and Series X not too far off that. These games we are being shown predominantly on UE5 will not run on last gen hardware, simple as that. Those numbers will more than be able to pull in profit.
Xbox are planning to allow people who don't have the necessary hardware eg. Xbox one/Underpowered PC's to stream Series X games to their device via the cloud (not optimal I know but that's what you get for owning at that point decade old hardware). I can see Sony doing something similar as they already stream PS3 games.
Again not ideal, but it's the only workaround I can think of for letting developers fulfill their vision and to rake in that last gen market.
If I remember right there was an article floating around here by Sony stating 2022 was the last year the PS4 would get games or exclusives I forget but I remember the article.
Naw there will still be games coming for PS4, especially with multiplatform games. Cross Gen will end in half way in 2023. The First party games after God of War Ragnorak will only be PS5 exclusives, but the multiplatform games still cross Gen for now until 2023 with Unreal Engine 5 games.
GREAT!! The quicker we abandon cross gen, the quicker we can start seeing something innovative and new, and if there's anyone i want to see do that it's Sony's 1st party right now.
I don’t know. I think they’ll extend the cross gen period.
Still lots of shortages going on, and if the rumors about MS paying for chip priority are true, they’re going to get worse before they get better.
The market is also too big to ignore, you’re talking about 100m+ audience vs under 20m - by EOY I expect it to be at 20-25m though - but still peanuts compared to PS4.
That needs to be the case.
It’s definitely what we all want but nobody thought the current chip shortage would last this long and that’s really going to be the determining factor. More ps5s then yes, not enough ps5s then more cross gen sadly.
No Problem.
well about god damn time